Greenback
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Trouble is muslims don't really integrate, they just live in their own little section with their own schools which keeps the young brainwashed in islam
This might brighten your day
not all are folding
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Trouble is muslims don't really integrate, they just live in their own little section with their own schools which keeps the young brainwashed in islam
This might brighten your day
not all are folding
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Good, I'm all for people mixing and getting to know eachothers cultures but with them it's either their way or no way followed by lots of violence.
I have friends from all walks of life, Atheist, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist etc... and all are chilled people who I can get along with easily and don't force their ways on to others and then don't try and change the country they moved to.
The problem with the arab ideology is that it's currently going through it's bat **** insane phase and sadly the rest of the world is paying the price.
Anyway enough of that it just gets me angry.
barnsley
born in a.....
Amazing generalization. Statements like that are what causes people to not integrate into society.
also, that website is one of those crazy american sites that likes making things up. Not really a credible source in the slightest.
'arab ideology'.
Thats like saying the Caucasian ideology.
To add to your statement, you also get Christian Arabs too.
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We've had turks in germany since the 60s, most of them are muslims and the vast majority of them manage to live in this country without raping our women.
As for the current wave of immigrants, sure they were raised in a different culture where tolerance and human rights aren't as developed as they are here, but generally speaking they follow the laws. Their kids will visit public schools, where they will be taught western values and will have contact with western civilization, so even if they are raised very strictly at home the majority of them will integrate well.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Well it is an arab ideology, It comes from the arabian lands made by an arab, Hence, Arab ideology.
Also you are incorrect, It's not like saying Caucasian ideology because arabs are Caucasian.
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Greenback
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Yhis 1 better
It may be an amazing generalisation but on the most part it is true look at areas of london
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Well there is a reason London has been nicknamed Londonistan and it's not just for giggles and it's not just London.
Look at many northern towns, Even the town I currently inhabit has seen them move in, In mass numbers demanding we change things for them or we get called the loopy left classic for not wanting to commit cultural suicide - "racist bigot xenophobic islamophobic white power supremacist nazi".
But if you went to their country of origin and demanded that they dismantle their culture to accommodate yours you would be laughed at and deported or worse.
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barnsley
born in a.....
Hi Katie Hopkins. You're right, I can't go to London without fear of being islamified by the local population. You know, the white british islamists.
There are more people who are ethnically Irish in London then Arab.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Perfect example of someone over exaggerating and going the other extreme end ^_^
Hell even John Cleese commented on it -
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barnsley
born in a.....
Not really mate. I go to London regularly and I've not seen any real reason for people to call it 'londonistan'. You've said yourself you live in a northern town so I doubt you're speaking from going there on a regular basis. Using a celebrity to say something doesn't really prove anything either. Famous people practice Scientology too remember
Speaking of extremes, I've not claimed an entire ethnic group (seriously, look up arab) is going though a 'crazy' phase too.
Personally I find the little englander mentality just as annoying as anyone who is a hardline believer of their faith. If I come across as some SJW you've evidently never met one of those irritating prats. I live in a city that arguably is a bit SJW and saying not all people of an ethnicity is 'mad' is pretty tame on the scale of things.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Not really mate. I go to London regularly and I've not seen any real reason for people to call it 'londonistan'. You've said yourself you live in a northern town so I doubt you're speaking from going there on a regular basis. Using a celebrity to say something doesn't really prove anything either. Famous people practice Scientology too remember
Speaking of extremes, I've not claimed an entire ethnic group (seriously, look up arab) is going though a 'crazy' phase too.
Personally I find the little englander mentality just as annoying as anyone who is a hardline believer of their faith. If I come across as some SJW you've evidently never met one of those irritating prats. I live in a city that arguably is a bit SJW and saying not all people of an ethnicity is 'mad' is pretty tame on the scale of things.
I said arab ideology, I never said arabs in general and yes the arab ideology is going through a bat **** crazy phase, Every country on the planet is having trouble with it and many people are in complete denial that this ideology is a real problem and a very real threat to all our futures and the sooner people pull their heads out of the proverbial sand the better because ignoring a problem does not make it go away, Like cancer for example.
Anyway this is going off topic.
What the heck is an arab ideology?
Greenback
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A muslim view on the girls swimming Accommodate
Engin Yilmaz, who deals with religious matters at the Turkish Embassy, told Anadolu Agency: “It is a basic principle for Islam that every organization or law should value everyone’s religious sensibilities.”
When it comes to islam and the west be it free speech or segregation in universities it is always we should accommodate
Engin Yilmaz, who deals with religious matters at the Turkish Embassy, told Anadolu Agency: “It is a basic principle for Islam that every organization or law should value everyone’s religious sensibilities.”
When it comes to islam and the west be it free speech or segregation in universities it is always we should accommodate
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Yep, It's always Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Atheists who MUST do as they say and start dismantling their own culture, Religion and way of life to appease them, I don't as I have had nothing but bad experiences and I show nothing but contempt for that nazi-like ideology.
barnsley
born in a.....
What is an arab ideology though? You're really not making any sense at all. I'm not even being pedantic!
If you're talking about Islam then say so. You do know you get Arab Christians and Arab people who don't follow Islam?
shambles1980
New member
how has this devolved in to a conversation about Islamic culture in the uk..
people who confused the referendum and issues there may or may not be with Islamic culture really should step back and really look at what is going on and why.
any way im not getting involved in this part of the debate as it really does not have much to do with the brexit other than ill informed people thinking it was about the referendum.
Where as freedom of movement may be contributed to islam in europe, thats just false as islam has been in europe since ~700 Ad and later on the ottoman empire covered alot of europe. and the 16th century saw a lot of muslims come to the uk to work, and then in the 1800's there was a large migration to the uk.
so i really dont see how any of this has anything to do with freedom of movement at all.
because there ware large numbers of islamic people here LONG before the eu or freedom of movment.
And where as there has been an increase in islam in the uk. a high % of this is converts rather than migration..
Again i dont see how that has much to do with the Referendum.
people who confused the referendum and issues there may or may not be with Islamic culture really should step back and really look at what is going on and why.
any way im not getting involved in this part of the debate as it really does not have much to do with the brexit other than ill informed people thinking it was about the referendum.
Where as freedom of movement may be contributed to islam in europe, thats just false as islam has been in europe since ~700 Ad and later on the ottoman empire covered alot of europe. and the 16th century saw a lot of muslims come to the uk to work, and then in the 1800's there was a large migration to the uk.
so i really dont see how any of this has anything to do with freedom of movement at all.
because there ware large numbers of islamic people here LONG before the eu or freedom of movment.
And where as there has been an increase in islam in the uk. a high % of this is converts rather than migration..
Again i dont see how that has much to do with the Referendum.
RobM
Active member
I lived in Germany for many years, loved it there and loved the people I met kinda wished I had settled there tbh
Germany did not lose a war it started due to patriotism, it lost a war it started due to thinking it was superior to other people (slavs, jews, gipsies etc).
It lost because they fought on multiple fronts and trying to fight Russia in winter instead of focusing.
As for Merkle she allows so many migrants because the German population is in decline and maybe she felt a need to appease for the things that happened during ww2
Saying one country is better educated than another is the same as saying it is superior and by default could therefore be interpeted as something else but lets go there.
I guess I am not "educated" but I know much about military history ancient to modern it is a passion of mine, have read the quran and bible etc
History is written by the victor
To be honest I think this topic has run its course, some quite emotive issues are being touched on and really thats not what this forum is about.
Germany did not lose a war it started due to patriotism, it lost a war it started due to thinking it was superior to other people (slavs, jews, gipsies etc).
It lost because they fought on multiple fronts and trying to fight Russia in winter instead of focusing.
As for Merkle she allows so many migrants because the German population is in decline and maybe she felt a need to appease for the things that happened during ww2
Saying one country is better educated than another is the same as saying it is superior and by default could therefore be interpeted as something else but lets go there.
I guess I am not "educated" but I know much about military history ancient to modern it is a passion of mine, have read the quran and bible etc
History is written by the victor
To be honest I think this topic has run its course, some quite emotive issues are being touched on and really thats not what this forum is about.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
It's called free speech bud and this is also in the serious discussion part of the forum and this is serious, Limiting peoples right to voice their concerns on any subject because it doesn't go with ones line of thought and might hurt ones feelings is tantamount to a dictatorship and exactly what the regressive left *special snowflakes* are doing today, Throwing their toys out of the pram because someone said something that falls outside of their safe space.
Not at all saying you are just putting it out there that speech should not be constrained because it might offend a certain crowd.
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shambles1980
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the issue is some people genuinly believe thet brexit was about migration and some of them felt it was directly influencing islam in the uk.
This is not the case, but its hard not to have it crop up in the discussion because many really do believe they go hand in hand.
This is not the case, but its hard not to have it crop up in the discussion because many really do believe they go hand in hand.
