Weighing out my PC; previous damage, future optimisation techniques

Syn

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I'm going to jump right into the story since the begginging with my purchase of the PC, hopefully it won't be too boring to read : /. In June I made my PC using parts of Ebuyer, costing around £600 altogether. I did maybe a months research before kinda knowing what criteria of each product was good for its price and reasearching the manufacturer. The day I got it, like an excited 5 year with a toy aroplane, I wanted to use it immediatly. I think some damage was likely caused upon assembling it which I will discuss after laying out the specs.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 (2.13Ghz) Socket 775 FSB1066 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor Track £99.13 £99.13

Inno3D 8600GT 256MB 128bit DDR3 DVI PCI-E Graphics Card £58.59

MSI P6N SLI Platinum nForce 650i SLI Socket 775 eSATA 8 channel audio ATX motherboard £76.55

OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory Gold GX XTC CL5 DUAL CHANNEL (LIFETIME WARRANTY) £57.57

Casecom Black Mid Tower Case - Front Blue LED 120mm Fan - With Side Window £15.31

Sumvision 450W 20+4pin SATA PSU £10.20

Looking back now I hardly know what any of this means, but at the time I knew what part of each item was good, I hope =). heres how i feel I may of damaged each of the aformaentioned items:

I made it in my room which has a carpet - no socks, on my desk, possible damage from static. Unlikely significant damage?

Processor - This is the only bit I look back on with a certain amount of shame. The small chip part I attempted to place in with the cover still on so I probably damaged the receptors there, if that makes sense. The worse part, however, is that I didn't pin the cooler on the processor properly. This meant it was running at 70-82 degrees for maybe 5 hours before I realised it and screwed it on properly. Despite this, I'm using it right now and have been for 6 months, it now runs at a cooler 30-40, I never see it go over 43. Lasting damage caused? I think so.

RAM - my first time putting Ram in, possible minimal damage on getting it in right. Unlikely significant damage?

Graphics Card - Placed in easily if i remember correctly, I only properly screwed in in a 2-3 monthis later after it slipped out of place a few times. Possible damage?

Motherboard - Upon placing the motherboard it bended slightly 2-3 times on screwing it in. Not very much I don't think, but it certainly was slightly curved maybe once or twice before I got it in place properly. Possible damage?

PS - I placed my crappy PS there because I felt it could be slowing my pc down, like not geting enough juice, ya know?

So... I've vomited out all background information onto the page in a hopefully somwhat articulate way. Now, what it is that I want know is how to get more out of my pc. Its scores well on "Welcome centre" that comes with Vista with an average score of 5.5 out of 6, yet on 3DMark06 it came out with a rather pitiful 4130, way less than it should do. If I play a FirstPS like Nexuiz the FramesPS is somthing underwhelming like 20-30 on fairly modest settings.

So, there it is. Whenever I make a thread I try and give all necceasry information which somtimes means I include stuff that might not help; I just wanted to throw it all out there as my limted knowledge on the subject indicated it wise to do so.

To sum up the things I'd like to know:

- If I have done any irreprable damge to my PC what what parts and impact wil it have.

- Where my specs good for the time, I asked a few people and they seemed to think its was pretty OK; although I understand it will be harder to remark upon this now as times, and technology have moved on.

- How is the best way to improve stuff like the FramesPS on my pc. When I play War3:TFT (5 year old RTS game) it runs at 64 FramesPS which is the capped amount as far as i can tell with all settings maxed out.

Thanks for reading, I understand that some of the stuff I did (specific reference to the processor) may dismay. Regardless any help is really, really appreciated - so thanks in advance for any future help that may come my way.

-Jonny
 

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Everyone here has made their share of mistakes their first time round... don't feel too bad :)

First off I'd say your PSU could cause problems. I finally found the specs on your PSU here:

http://www.cselinks.com/shopping-emporium/product.php?p=17647237&c=77

I'm not familiar with the brand, but judging by the price, I doubt it's very good quality. One of the essential components of a stable, reliable system is a good quality power supply. This is news to most first time builders, so you're hardly alone there. For your midrange class system, figure on spending £30/$50 minimum. Main features to look for are minimum 28A on the +12V rail, or 14A each if it has dual 12V rails. 450-500W PSUs usually have these ratings. Go higher if you want to overclock or use SLI; 36A+ and 500-600W. Also make sure it has PCIE 6pin connectors, unlike your current one. There are a lot of reputable brands: Antec, Corsair, Fortron, Thermaltake, OCZ, Tagan, PC P&C, Seasonic, among others.

To test your CPU for damage, run this program for several hours, watching the temps as it runs:

http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/

If it reports any errors, your CPU will require some attention. It may just need improved cooling or some tweaks in the bios, or it may have indeed suffered damage.

To test your RAM, you can run the memory test off the Vista CD, or download the ISO version of this program:

http://www.memtest.org/

Either way, you boot of the CD and let it run overnight. As with CPU, errors may indicate your RAM parameters need tweaking (loosening timings, increasing voltage, etc), or physical damage.

For testing your GPU, the best way I've found is just run your favorite game for an hour or so at maximum graphics and look for any graphical glitches - wrong color textures, pixellation, things out of place, etc. I believe ATITool has a test routine as well, but I don't use that program myself.

As for improving your framerate in games: you should certainly take care of the above things before worry about improving performance too much. Possible methods of improving performance include overclocking (your CPU, primarily, but also RAM and GPU), and for games, buying a new graphics card. But overclocking will be worse than useless if your system isn't stable to start with. Both overclocking and high end graphics cards require solid power supplies.
 
Ok, thanks a lot for the help - I tested put the CPU and it was stable. Also I've detected nothing odd in graphical glitches at all, I didn't test the ram cause i couldn't get it to work off the link, regardless I'm more confident about the RAM.

I'm going to try and fork out enough for this PSU, and also this graphics card for £140. How do you rate these two purchases? Will buying a graphics card of the same make to the motherboard improve performance at all?

Thanks.
 
2 solid choices mate

You probably didn't do any damage at all, most hardware is more hardy than people think.

Just be a little more careful with those nice new parts :)
 
As Kemp said.. no damage done. The hardware is probebly in pretty good shape.

The performance is most likely down to the software side of things.

Oh and remember if hardware is damaged then it probably wouldn't boot, so if it is stable just chill and find a software solution. :)
 
I have the Corsair HX520W and can say it's an absolute quality PSU. It's whisper quiet, easily the quietest fan cooled component in my PC including case fans and it comes with absolutley tonnes of connectors. The included cables are top notch especially the 3 main sleeved ones, and the modular Molex even stretches to the top of my case for my DVD-burner which considering the Antec 900 uses a bottom mounted PSU is pretty impressive. Good luck with the new parts.
 
name='Syn' said:
Ok, thanks a lot for the help - I tested put the CPU and it was stable. Also I've detected nothing odd in graphical glitches at all, I didn't test the ram cause i couldn't get it to work off the link, regardless I'm more confident about the RAM.

I'm going to try and fork out enough for this PSU, and also this graphics card for £140. How do you rate these two purchases? Will buying a graphics card of the same make to the motherboard improve performance at all?

Thanks.

The PSU is definitely quality; I can't speak to price since I'm in the US and the shops etc are different there.

The graphics card is a solid choice too. You may want to wait a little to buy that; at Newegg the 8800GT prices dropped $50 in the past month or so to the low 200s, in preparation for the 9800 cards coming out this month. So if it hasn't happened already, you may want to wait a month or so and see if there is a similar drop in the UK.

Once you get these components, you can start overclocking, and watch your fps take a pretty nice jump :)
 
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