Triple vs. Dual Radiator

floge03

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Is there much of a temperature difference between a Double or a Triple Radiator?

I will be running either on with Yate Loon fans on a Swiftech radiator.
 
Yes there is, more load, but more surface area. The increase surface area can create the same performance as less but with quieter lower rpm fans!
 
It all depends on how many waterblocks are in your system and how restrictive they are. What kind of a loop are we looking at here? 1 block, 2, 3, 4? How many pumps, 1 or 2?

We need a bit of prequalifying info.
 
Sorry about that.

I currently only have my D-Tek MP-05 SP LE cpu block. Once, I receive my EK block from Specialtech that will be my only other block.

1 CPU Block + 1 GPU Block

The pump I use is the Swiftech mcp-655
 
Forgot to ask another question:

What is the best type of tubing, that is the least expensive?

I have been looking at the Musketeer, which is supposed to give Tygon a run for its money.. is this true?

Thanks Again for the Help
 
I'm not quite sure whether this is still true, but a little while back Masterkleer 7/16" tubing became one of the favorites due to price and the fact that it had the flow of 1/2" and the flexibility of 3/8"
 
Masterkleer 100% dominates Tygon. I'd never buy Tygon again after usine Master, it's definately the best. It's kink free, very plyable, and it doesn't stain. Highly highly recommended.
 
name='FragTek' said:
Masterkleer 100% dominates Tygon. I'd never buy Tygon again after usine Master, it's definately the best. It's kink free, very plyable, and it doesn't stain. Highly highly recommended.

i forward that, 1/2" tubing would kink before 7/16 just b/c of the thicker tubing, it depends which brand of radiator, but of same co. 120.3 has always beat 120.2 in what iv seen, thou there might be minimal temp changes. bigger rad = larger surface area = more closer to ambient temps.
 
Basically, the closer the water temperature gets to that of the air flowing into your radiator the 'harder' it becomes for the air to extract more heat away from the water. This follows 'the law of diminishing returns' - so if increasing the surface area of the radiator by say 50% gives you a X°C decrease in water temps, then you might need to increase the surface area by a further 200% to give you a further X°C decrease in water temp, etc. But we're talking about very small decreases here.

I think what is more important is that the heat dump of the components you are cooling doesn't exceed the ability of the rad to shift that heat. So, a decent double rad will be more than sufficient for 1 CPU block + 1 GPU block. Some people would say a triple rad is overkill in this case but overkill is ok as long as it's not too expensive :D

Masterkleer 7/16" tubing is great stuff. It's more difficult to push onto your barbs (might need to immerse the ends in hot water) but equally it's more difficult to pull off, so you have the extra confidence about minimizing leaks.
 
That would be great if it is harder to put the tubing on the barbs because when I first put together my loop one of my tubes popped off. To be cautious I bought spring clamps.

Can't wait to get this tubing!
 
Yes, I find it so difficult to remove this tubing from 1/2" barbs (especially the plastic Swiftech ones) that I just cut it off, rather than risk damaging something (usually my fingers :D). Then again, my muscles are more like Olive's than Popeye's. :(
 
I very carefully use a hot air gun to heat the tubes before attempting to remove them.

I can't stress enough the very carefully part, because hot air guns can, among other things, degrade the insulation of any surrounding cables or desolder surface mounted components, apart from rendering the tube unusable.

If you're not comfortable with this tool, or you don't have one handy, and hairdryer helps, and even in the highest setting you have a bigger margin for error.
 
I have another question regarding the removal of the water cooling loop from the computer.

Currently I have my loop all internalized, so I just unmount the rad and cpu block, then just pull out the res and the pump.

However, if I go a triple or dual radiator, that would be mounted on the back of my case, with tubing going through the back, into the case.

If I ever need to "drain" the system how would I do this?
 
There are few different ways but just do what you think is the safest, you really don't want to get water everywhere! As always have an empty container and some paper towels at the ready.

You can also cut or pull the tubing off one of your barbs that's furthest away from any electronics. This works well if you have long enough lengths of tubing so that the pump or reservoir, say, can be moved outside the case to do this over an empty container. Depending on how you orientate your radiator you may need to tilt your case about to get the last of the water out.
 
name='Allsorts' said:
Basically, the closer the water temperature gets to that of the air flowing into your radiator the 'harder' it becomes for the air to extract more heat away from the water. This follows 'the law of diminishing returns' - so if increasing the surface area of the radiator by say 50% gives you a X°C decrease in water temps, then you might need to increase the surface area by a further 200% to give you a further X°C decrease in water temp, etc. But we're talking about very small decreases here.

I think what is more important is that the heat dump of the components you are cooling doesn't exceed the ability of the rad to shift that heat. So, a decent double rad will be more than sufficient for 1 CPU block + 1 GPU block. Some people would say a triple rad is overkill in this case but overkill is ok as long as it's not too expensive :D

Masterkleer 7/16" tubing is great stuff. It's more difficult to push onto your barbs (might need to immerse the ends in hot water) but equally it's more difficult to pull off, so you have the extra confidence about minimizing leaks.

Thanks for the scientific explanation, and no I'm not joking. I can add the law of diminishing returns to my geek lingo to mess with the people I work with.
 
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