Super torn 9900k vs 3800X/3900X

[WillSK]

So as the thread title says, after watching a fair few reviews, I am now super torn about what to go for in terms of new build.

I tend to use my PC primarily for gaming and would like to explore streaming in the future but now I have no idea whether to go with a Ryzen and some of the newer technologies or stick with current gen but get the better framerates.

Just to give an idea of what I'm keeping...

-Fractal Design S2
-Seasonic Prime Titanium Ultra 850W PSU
-32GB 3200Mhz CAS14 Team Group Ram
-MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 2080

I guess the question is guys. What would you do in my situation and why?

 

[NeverBackDown]

If you are serious about streaming then the Ryzen CPUs are just better. You will get similar FPS when streaming. The difference is Ryzen is better at not dropping frames whereas the 9900k still can. There was a review on it but I can't remember where it was from...

Ryzen and X470 personally.

 

[AlienALX]

If you are serious about streaming then the Ryzen CPUs are just better. You will get similar FPS when streaming. The difference is Ryzen is better at not dropping frames whereas the 9900k still can. There was a review on it but I can't remember where it was from...

Ryzen and X470 personally.

I saw that. Ryzen managed to hold 4.2ghz no matter what but the 9900k started throttling to base speed.

I'd go with the 3900x myself. It's not what I'd consider terribly expensive and it's insane.

It was Linus, dudes. Watch his review.

 

[NeverBackDown]

I haven't watch linus in like 5 years so the review I watched definitely wasn't him

Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLwbhxckfqc&t=

 

[AlienALX]

Well Linus did exactly the same test so it was obviously a corporate shill job instructed by AMD.

Either way the results are undeniable.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Linus is obviously a shill. Highly doubt other guy is. I've watched him for a while.
Watched Linus for sake of comparison. Not "exactly the same test" so that's laughable conspiracy theory you got there.

 

[grec]

AMD did do this type of test during their livestream reveal of Ryzen3000&Navi tbf.

 

[AlienALX]

AMD did do this type of test during their livestream reveal of Ryzen3000&Navi tbf.

Ah so they probably picked it up from that. That makes sense..

TBH I don't watch Linus at all any more. I don't like him, not since he did the whole "do you know who I am?" Thing. I've had him on "not interested" on YT for ages, but did want to see as many Zen 2 reviews as I could.

 

[WillSK]

Thanks for the links guys will give them a watch.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Not super in depth but it's all we got at the moment

 

[NeverBackDown]

got more streaming information for you if it helps!

 

[WillSK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8dv0LT06qU


got more streaming information for you if it helps!

Nice one dude!

 

[NeverBackDown]

Nice one dude!

Took me a while to find this thread, spent 10 minutes looking for it. Thought of this thread immediately once I found the video
Hope it helps!

 

[WillSK]

Took me a while to find this thread, spent 10 minutes looking for it. Thought of this thread immediately once I found the video
Hope it helps!

It's weird, everything is telling me to go 9900k. I'm a gamer primarily and the fact is that at the moment the 9900k performs better.

However part of my brain keeps being like AM4 is about for another gen (maybe 2?) Intel will almost definitely introduce a new socket (again) and I just don't want to support the practise.

Streaming for me is just a potential side thought rather than something i'm committed to going big on so not the deciding factor.

Maybe I'll wait a couple of months and see how ryzen 3 matures. Plus reduced prices won't hurt.

 

[cooperman]

 

[Dark NighT]

I'd go Amd purely for the fact it doesn't suffer as much with security issues which keep dragging down intel performance with updates, and if it's only a tad bit slower then yeah, no brainer really.

 

[WillSK]

Yeah I did see this!
defo some points deducted from the 9900k here

I'd go Amd purely for the fact it doesn't suffer as much with security issues which keep dragging down intel performance with updates, and if it's only a tad bit slower then yeah, no brainer really.

I agree to be fair, most likely gonna go the Ryzen route

 

[grec]

Yeah the benefits are that you generally get so close in max performance that you probably wouldn't notice the gap but have a fair bit of power "spare" to maintain that performance regardless of what other stuff your PC is doing, and that Zen3 will probably close the gap further with what will likely still be Skylake 14nm derived competition at that point.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Nobody should realistically be using X264 Slow so I don't think that's really a great point you gave. It's quality improvement is almost non existent.


Not sure if you watched the videos but if you are serious about streaming and want to do it more, Ryzen provides a better stream for the viewers where Intel provides a better gaming experience. Ryzen is a few percent slower than Intel for the gamer but far better for the viewers.

So really it's just Ryzen if you plan on doing 1080p60.

If you aren't going to use a webcam then use NVENC. It's the best solution. Using a webcam it gets overloaded and performs worse for the viewers.

 

[looz]

NVENC getting overloaded makes literally no sense, OBS will merge the two video streams and only after that it gets encoded. It's absolutely fine to use NVENC with a webcam.


Shadowplay might work differently, but it's useless for streaming.