Star Wars: Battlefront Beta is now available For Preload

Lol what a load of baloney, do you have any idea how much time and dev went into the title that it should cost $20 at most?

Also it's NOT PvP only, there's a missions bit too, granted, it's horde mode. But it's still not PVP only. It has AI in it.

For all your moaning, have you played it? Have you seen how authentic and true to the films (4 5 and 6) it looks and sounds? It's stunningly well done.

This is very much you and your opinions creeping over the line into what you consider facts dude, and you're wrong. Production on this scale, with this polish doesn't come cheap.

100% agree. Showed the artists at work the Tatooine level and they were in awe.
 
Lol what a load of baloney, do you have any idea how much time and dev went into the title that it should cost $20 at most?

Also it's NOT PvP only, there's a missions bit too, granted, it's horde mode. But it's still not PVP only. It has AI in it.

For all your moaning, have you played it? Have you seen how authentic and true to the films (4 5 and 6) it looks and sounds? It's stunningly well done.

This is very much you and your opinions creeping over the line into what you consider facts dude, and you're wrong. Production on this scale, with this polish doesn't come cheap.

You know how much Dev time goes into F2P games that are PvP only? AI missions don't automatically make it worth $60. That would be what? $10/mission?

If you read my post you would know I've played it on PC and Xbone. I already said it performs great, can't take that away. However the sound isn't very good. Me and many other's I know we're not impressed. Sure you could tell it was star wars music. Hardly pulled you in though, not even the introduction music to every star wars movie? That's insulting. I've obviously watched every movie.. Idk anyone who hasn't(excluding girls as they don't really care)

You saying my opinion is wrong is wrong as well. It's opinion. Everything I have said is fact. It lacks key elements to the star wars universe. Production of any game isn't cheap. PvP only games are the same way too. WoT or Warthundwr or even LoL. All are very polished as well.. You all can buy it and love it. That's fine, however I won't be investing into a star wars game where I can't even go into space..
 
After playing a few hours, it has kind of grown on me a bit. At first it felt pretty bad but once people (and me) learned the map, what to do and where to go it got much better.
DICE still can't do balance well though, they still don't know how to make maps that are not one sided. The Hoth map is so one sided it is unbelievable.

It's funny because in Alpha, the Empire almost never won, but this time around they almost always win. It's better than it was, but there's still a way to go, but that's beta. The issue is most people are running around like headless chickens, if the rebels get their act together it's not that hard to win it. Not many people play the objectives they just go for big K/Dr

The trick is, Snow Speeders, don't shoot it, wrap it and bring it down when the Y-Wings attack ;)
 
^^^^ EA games

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You know how much Dev time goes into F2P games that are PvP only? AI missions don't automatically make it worth $60. That would be what? $10/mission?

The rendering tech and art assets alone are worth a lot. Mission content is dirt cheap..
 
Lol what a load of baloney, do you have any idea how much time and dev went into the title that it should cost $20 at most?

Also it's NOT PvP only, there's a missions bit too, granted, it's horde mode. But it's still not PVP only. It has AI in it.

For all your moaning, have you played it? Have you seen how authentic and true to the films (4 5 and 6) it looks and sounds? It's stunningly well done.

This is very much you and your opinions creeping over the line into what you consider facts dude, and you're wrong. Production on this scale, with this polish doesn't come cheap.

While the game does appear to look and sound ok, Going by what the devs have said so far it seems to be missing a titanic amount of things that the previous games had -

-A metric butt ton of vehicles
-No space, which for a game called STAR WARS is just moronic
-AT-AT's not controllable
-No single player campaigns i.e story and/or galactic conquest
-A lot less playable heroes
-Number of players is now a lot less
-Less classes

While the graphics are nice from what I've played, Seen and even read of what's coming up it feels quite empty.
 
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While the game does appear to look and sound ok, Going by what the devs have said so far it seems to be missing a titanic amount of things that the previous games had -

-A metric butt ton of vehicles
-No space, which for a game called STAR WARS is just moronic
-AT-AT's not controllable
-No single player campaigns i.e story and/or galactic conquest
-A lot less playable heroes
-Number of players is now a lot less
-Less classes

While the graphics are nice from what I've played, Seen and even read of what's coming up it feels quite empty.

This is how I feel.

I agree, that in terms of look and feel the star wars authenticity is there. Sounds are good, maps true to the movies and character models too. Just the game itself feels kinda lacking at the moment
 
It's funny because in Alpha, the Empire almost never won, but this time around they almost always win. It's better than it was, but there's still a way to go, but that's beta. The issue is most people are running around like headless chickens, if the rebels get their act together it's not that hard to win it. Not many people play the objectives they just go for big K/Dr

The trick is, Snow Speeders, don't shoot it, wrap it and bring it down when the Y-Wings attack ;)

You can win as a Rebel, but the odds are stacked against you and it is much easier for the Imperials. Especially the last part where it is fully open, the imperials have the high ground and can just spawn rape the rebels.

Another thing the Imperials have is the AT-AT, you can pick up the AT-AT gunner pickup, jump in the gunner seat and laugh while you blow the other team to bits. And as soon as the timer runs out you can pick the pickup back up straight away and continue laughing as you blow the other team up while they can't do nothing about it.

That is something that I think needs to be changed, one round I went 48-6 just because I kept jumping in the AT-AT. I don't care about K/D to be honest and I always play the objective, but when you have something as powerfull as the AT-AT where you can destroy the other team without them being able to do anything to you, it is a bit OP.

The weapon balance is good though, everyone is on a level playing field as far as weapons and gadgets go but map and vehicle wise it is a bit unbalanced at the moment. I know this is a beta, but DICE do not have a good record of balancing or fixing things. They have done good with fixing BF4 but it took them a year to get it stable and another 18 months to get it to the stage it is now.
 
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While the game does appear to look and sound ok, Going by what the devs have said so far it seems to be missing a titanic amount of things that the previous games had -

-A metric butt ton of vehicles
-No space, which for a game called STAR WARS is just moronic
-AT-AT's not controllable
-No single player campaigns i.e story and/or galactic conquest
-A lot less playable heroes
-Number of players is now a lot less
-Less classes

While the graphics are nice from what I've played, Seen and even read of what's coming up it feels quite empty.

See that's pulled straight of that now ages old poster

- Vehicles seem to be expanding, there are X-Wings, A-Wings, Speeders, Tie Fighters, Tie Interceptors AT-AT (on rails) AT-ST (freeroam)
- You can control them, but only the guns (lets be honest, how fast does it move anyway?) It's more like the gunship in BF tbh
- No story, but they've said that from the start, the story feels like it's more in these battles, but it could do with a campaign. The issue is, what era do they do? They can't spoiler 7 and 4..5..6.. has been done to death.. If they went deep canon it would alienate a lot of the more casual fans, right now they're just going for iconic movie battles.
- There's only the 2 heroes for now, but I get the impression with how the selection screen for this works, that there will be more. They are just Beta'ing these things. 2 keys points
1) Luke in his EP 6 form (as in this game) never went to hoth.
2) Vader was never involved in the initial assault either :P

It feels like the've just put in the two most iconic characters, I also never, ever see them duel.

- players is less, but tbh, that feels like a limitation of the engine to me, Frostbite being what it is, is all faked and shiny bits, the map sizes feel 'okay' at the current playercounts and if you even added another 5 more they'd become a cluster*uck very quickly. I think they've done this to stop that Battlefield-esque death-grind. The moving 'battlefront' helps stop spawn rape (helps, not prevents), with more numbers it would be a little too chaotic. right now it feels okay
- there's effectively no classes, but I've heard they are doing customisation, and looking at the fact they've added 'traits' (and there's only one) knowing how Dice do unlocks, I think we'll see a lot more of these once you can level past 5 ;)

Judging a game this early on, in beta, for it's content.. in beta.. is a little rough. They're deliberately holding back to prevent a) spoilers and b) Disney will be telling them to market it properly, so they'll only show a little of what they can do...

Wait till we see things like Endor and speeder bikes...

I honestly don't know how any of you can think the sound is bad, there's some glitches caused by certain output settings on my Card (mostly win10 driver related) but the game itself sounds amazing... loads of little nuance sounds and other little bits.. it sounds great!
 
See that's pulled straight of that now ages old poster

- Vehicles seem to be expanding, there are X-Wings, A-Wings, Speeders, Tie Fighters, Tie Interceptors AT-AT (on rails) AT-ST (freeroam)
- You can control them, but only the guns (lets be honest, how fast does it move anyway?) It's more like the gunship in BF tbh
- No story, but they've said that from the start, the story feels like it's more in these battles, but it could do with a campaign. The issue is, what era do they do? They can't spoiler 7 and 4..5..6.. has been done to death.. If they went deep canon it would alienate a lot of the more casual fans, right now they're just going for iconic movie battles.
- There's only the 2 heroes for now, but I get the impression with how the selection screen for this works, that there will be more. They are just Beta'ing these things. 2 keys points
1) Luke in his EP 6 form (as in this game) never went to hoth.
2) Vader was never involved in the initial assault either :P

It feels like the've just put in the two most iconic characters, I also never, ever see them duel.

- players is less, but tbh, that feels like a limitation of the engine to me, Frostbite being what it is, is all faked and shiny bits, the map sizes feel 'okay' at the current playercounts and if you even added another 5 more they'd become a cluster*uck very quickly. I think they've done this to stop that Battlefield-esque death-grind. The moving 'battlefront' helps stop spawn rape (helps, not prevents), with more numbers it would be a little too chaotic. right now it feels okay
- there's effectively no classes, but I've heard they are doing customisation, and looking at the fact they've added 'traits' (and there's only one) knowing how Dice do unlocks, I think we'll see a lot more of these once you can level past 5 ;)

Judging a game this early on, in beta, for it's content.. in beta.. is a little rough. They're deliberately holding back to prevent a) spoilers and b) Disney will be telling them to market it properly, so they'll only show a little of what they can do...

Wait till we see things like Endor and speeder bikes...

I honestly don't know how any of you can think the sound is bad, there's some glitches caused by certain output settings on my Card (mostly win10 driver related) but the game itself sounds amazing... loads of little nuance sounds and other little bits.. it sounds great!

I'm not holding my breath from what I've heard the devs say or not say, I hope I'm wrong though.

From my initial impressions it really does feel like Battlefield 4 with a Star Wars skin though.
 
TBH I think I'm going to be asking for a refund for Battlefront, It's typical EA/DICE shite, it's laggy it crashes the hit reg is all over the place.
I just like BF4 in that it looks amazing but plays like crap.
 
No need to get a refund yet! If you bought it directly from Origin you can use their 'Great Game Guarantee' to get a refund later. Might as well play the full game before making up your mind! Hopefully new modes will add some more depth.

True a lot is missing from the old Battlefront games, but its still fun. Like the transition from BF2 to BF3. Drop Zone is mindless action, but still fun I thought. Heres some highlights from my last few rounds:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTP8vTHpQ4
 
No need to get a refund yet! If you bought it directly from Origin you can use their 'Great Game Guarantee' to get a refund later. Might as well play the full game before making up your mind! Hopefully new modes will add some more depth.

True a lot is missing from the old Battlefront games, but its still fun. Like the transition from BF2 to BF3. Drop Zone is mindless action, but still fun I thought. Heres some highlights from my last few rounds:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTP8vTHpQ4

And this is why I hope they have a good match making system in place as being put up against people with good K/D ratios when one isn't really that good at multiplayer just results in headaches and switching the game off and another reason why a full campaign with space flight and galactic conquest should have been included.
 
I'm not holding my breath from what I've heard the devs say or not say, I hope I'm wrong though.

From my initial impressions it really does feel like Battlefield 4 with a Star Wars skin though.

Basically what it is and 100% agree. I was super excited for this game when it was announced.. then they said no campaign and no Space Battles.. instantly I knew this game was simply using the brand name to sell it. While it may be far better than Battlefield 4 was, it should be considering it's literally just an evolution of it and being a new theme; however, that does not make it a great game. I like how the game plays(excluding some balance issues)v, graphics, and sound(barely a strongpoint though imo) but really for representing one of if not the most iconic franchises of all time, falls so short. My opinion would be drastically different if they had space battles and no campaign(still be disappointed though). However I can't help but feel they will just make space battles an "expansion" and charge half the game price. So while it may be fun, I can't justify investing not only money but time as well into a Star Wars game with no Space Battles. Such a shame too as this could have easily been so great they would have made well into the Billions of dollars and made enough to fund the next 3 games. Hopefully they are lieing and keeping Space Battles under some NDA.. that would make me happy:)
 
I don't get this Battlefeild 4 with a Star Wars skin analogy, the lack of space battles asside, what is a Star Wars game supposed to be like? As someone who has spent 500hrs in BF4 I honestly don't feel like the game is anything like it, it is on the same engine and is similar in that way, but gameplay wise it is nothing like it. The game is about as Star Wars as Star Wars can be, i'm not a massive Star Wars fan but I grew up watching the films (4, 5 and 6) a load of times.

I'm just wondering how people expect the game to be gameplay wise as a Star Wars game? Whether you like the gameplay or not asside, how would changing it make any more Star Wars?
I know there are no space battles, but besides that I don't see how it isn't Star Wars.
 
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I don't get this Battlefeild 4 with a Star Wars skin analogy, the lack of space battles asside, what is a Star Wars game supposed to be like? As someone who has spent 500hrs in BF4 I honestly don't feel like the game is anything like it, it is on the same engine and is similar in that way, but gameplay wise it is nothing like it. The game is about as Star Wars as Star Wars can be, i'm not a massive Star Wars fan but I grew up watching the films (4, 5 and 6) a load of times.

I'm just wondering how people expect the game to be gameplay wise as a Star Wars game? Whether you like the gameplay or not asside, how would changing it make any more Star Wars?
I know there are no space battles, but besides that I don't see how it isn't Star Wars.

Well on Battlefront 2 I had around 600 hours logged over the course of quite a few years, Now that game felt like Star Wars, This game while it does look and sound good just doesn't have the Star Wars feel to me, It feels like a cash in using the Star Wars license right before episode VII hits.

Star Wars is about story and those epic "Oh wow" moments, This just feels like another empty online shooter from what I've seen, Read, What the devs have said and what I know that's going to be available in the final game next month.
 
I don't understand how people can say it doesn't feel like Star Wars though?

Everything about it is Star Wars, the sounds, models, weapons, characters, vehicles, locations, theme, music and everything else bar voice acting from the original voice actors is Star Wars.
DICE even went to the official Star Wars archive, took copies of sound effects, music, scans of model for weapons, vehicles as well as original art designs to make everything as authentic as possible. I don't know how DICE could make it any more Star Wars than it already is.

If you don't like the gameplay it offers fair enough, i'm not a big fan of it either and each to their own opinion. But I wouldn't say it doesn't feel like Star Wars, there isn't a specific way a Star Wars game should be.

This beta review sums it up nicely in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Y-itl7SFQ
 
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I agree with you SieB. I personally hate the way Battlefield plays (personally preference) but I can play this game quite happily. Just because it doesn't have a story doesn't not make it Star Wars. Be aware that Disney own the IP so it could be a case that they feel they could not produce a storyline of high enough quality in the timeframe.. who knows.
 
I don't get this Battlefeild 4 with a Star Wars skin analogy, the lack of space battles asside, what is a Star Wars game supposed to be like? As someone who has spent 500hrs in BF4 I honestly don't feel like the game is anything like it, it is on the same engine and is similar in that way, but gameplay wise it is nothing like it. The game is about as Star Wars as Star Wars can be, i'm not a massive Star Wars fan but I grew up watching the films (4, 5 and 6) a load of times.

I'm just wondering how people expect the game to be gameplay wise as a Star Wars game? Whether you like the gameplay or not asside, how would changing it make any more Star Wars?
I know there are no space battles, but besides that I don't see how it isn't Star Wars.

It's an analogy that makes sense. It's basically a small evolution of the current BF4 game. So there will be differences in gameplay. We've been saying it has a star wars theme as clearly shown by looking at it, but gameplay wise is just an evolution to BF4. I don't think Gameplay is bad but disappointing with no campaign and no space battles.. which is what it's all about really.

I agree with you SieB. I personally hate the way Battlefield plays (personally preference) but I can play this game quite happily. Just because it doesn't have a story doesn't not make it Star Wars. Be aware that Disney own the IP so it could be a case that they feel they could not produce a storyline of high enough quality in the timeframe.. who knows.

Since Disney owns the IP and only accquired it about little over a year ago, you could be right in saying Dice didn't really have anytime for a Campaign after already starting everything else and Disney could have just said no or something. Still however It should have had a campaign despite all that but if its for the stated reasons I could forgive them. For the story side we have the next (rumored) RPG star wars coming out next year for that I suppose which could also factor in to the no campaign debate.
 
I'm really enjoying it myself, definitely gonna buy it based on the beta. I would love a campaign game, one that is primarily a campaign game (or even exclusively) and with new Star Wars movies for the next six years I hope there are more games planned too. Battlefront totally feels like a Star Wars game to me, and I like that its a casual game - I can play with friends who don't game very often and we can all jump in and have fun.
 
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