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[Craigferrie]

duel loops are fun, but as you said it can get hectic.
On the other hand, the case is pretty open and spacious.
just to confuse you more lol

 

[Permafrost]

dual loops are fun, but as you said it can get hectic.
On the other hand, the case is pretty open and spacious.
just to confuse you more lol

i was thinking the same but i really want forum members input.

 

[tinytomlogan]

so let's back on topic, so I am considering a dual loop with two 10w ddc's stacked at the front, do you guys think it'll look busy or messy? or would it be best for a single D5 with a 250ml top? thoughts and opinions guys and girls?

I think it will be way too messy and not required. A single series loop will be MUCH tidier and quieter. DDC's are a b.tard to get quiet.

I personally use a single D5 in Orca and its on setting 2 - you dont need a mega pump set up very often

 

[Permafrost]

I think it will be way too messy and not required. A single series loop will be MUCH tidier and quieter. DDC's are a b.tard to get quiet.

I personally use a single D5 in Orca and its on setting 2 - you don't need a mega pump set up very often

tbh the 10w ddc i for in the ek ddc heatsink is pretty quiet, by the sound of things it's going to be a D5.

does anyone here have an exp on the XSPC photon 270 D5?

EDIT: thanks for your input guys keep 'em coming

 

[Asperatis]

A single d5 will be plenty indeed. I'm running cpu, 2 gpu and 2 460 60mm rads on one EK d5 pump which is set to speed 2/5. Nice and quiet and plenty of flow too Double loops look nice, but it's more something you should do in huge cases such as a Caselabs SMA8 imho

 

[Permafrost]

A single d5 will be plenty indeed. I'm running cpu, 2 gpu and 2 460 60mm rads on one EK d5 pump which is set to speed 2/5. Nice and quiet and plenty of flow too Double loops look nice, but it's more something you should do in huge cases such as a Caselabs SMA8 imho

yeah i've been looking at your build log, i really, really like that ras you got

 

[Asperatis]

yeah i've been looking at your build log, i really, really like that ras you got

Thx ^_^ had to order it from ppcs though as I couldn't find it in Europe. It comes with a uv cathode too should you wish to light it up.

 

[Permafrost]

i heard they stopped making them, if you sell it let me know

 

[Asperatis]

i heard they stopped making them, if you sell it let me know

You should verify that with FrozenQ, as I'm not selling mine

 

[Permafrost]

just a little update:

i was at mcm expo on the weekend so i couldn't get much done so a friend popped over to give me a hand who is a twitch streamer by the name of Baz_Wilson

the cpu block in on the board

and now the the gpus are blocked up and installed

today i'll be trying my hand at acrylic bending for the first time, any pro tips from forum member?

 

[JR23]

so let's back on topic, so I am considering a dual loop with two 10w ddc's stacked at the front, do you guys think it'll look busy or messy? or would it be best for a single D5 with a 250ml top? thoughts and opinions guys and girls?

The case is easily big enough to accommodate two individual loops, it probably wouldn't perform quite as well as it inherently limits the radiator area available to the set of components in each loop. Although, it would still be more than good enough to be functional and quiet. It would definitely add some cost, having to get two reservoirs, two tops and with that more fittings. Aesthetically it would allow you to have two colors of coolant and add some general complexity to the loop which if done properly could be really nice and a lot to the build IMO.

Complexity isn't a bad thing and definitely doesn't inherently result in it being messy. Being messy makes things look messy not just adding more things. Whether it's visually balanced and nicely spaced is a different matter, it may look empty with one pump. But empty might be a good thing. The important thing is you've decided how you want it to look and you follow through with it. If you have your mind set on dual loops then do it!


Both are overkill in terms of head pressure and flow rate! Also DDC's can be quiet but it does take a lot of effort. The 1T-Plus 10W versions are poop IMO, the PWM versions are the only ones worth having and even then you have to pay particular attention to how they are isolated. By contrast all D5's are awesome, particularly Vario's.

JR

 

[Permafrost]

The case is easily big enough to accommodate two individual loops, it probably wouldn't perform quite as well as it inherently limits the radiator area available to the set of components in each loop. Although, it would still be more than good enough to be functional and quiet. It would definitely add some cost, having to get two reservoirs, two tops and with that more fittings. Aesthetically it would allow you to have two colors of coolant and add some general complexity to the loop which if done properly could be really nice and a lot to the build IMO.

Complexity isn't a bad thing and definitely doesn't inherently result in it being messy. Being messy makes things look messy not just adding more things. Whether it's visually balanced and nicely spaced is a different matter, it may look empty with one pump. But empty might be a good thing. The important thing is you've decided how you want it to look and you follow through with it. If you have your mind set on dual loops then do it!


Both are overkill in terms of head pressure and flow rate! Also DDC's can be quiet but it does take a lot of effort. The 1T-Plus 10W versions are poop IMO, the PWM versions are the only ones worth having and even then you have to pay particular attention to how they are isolated. By contrast all D5's are awesome, particularly Vario's.

JR

thanks for the epic response dude, i've been using the the 1T-Plus 10W version for about a year not had any problems with it. that being said i would like a D5 Vario as i've never had one and heard so many good things about them.

after giving it some thought i can't afford a dual loop system as much as i would love to do it, i'll be pushing my luck for time and money with xmas breathing down my neck

 

[Feronix]

Whoa resize those images mate! Been staring at this page for 2 minutes on train wifi now and they still haven't even loaded halfway

 

[Permafrost]

Whoa resize those images mate! Been staring at this page for 2 minutes on train wifi now and they still haven't even loaded halfway

no i'm going to leave them like that just to eat all your data usage

EDIT is that better?

 

[sfelock]

after giving it some thought i can't afford a dual loop system as much as i would love to do it, i'll be pushing my luck for time and money with xmas breathing down my neck

I know the feeling man. I'm doing all this on the aforementioned Christmas budget with a family of 5.

 

[Permafrost]

I know the feeling man. I'm doing all this on the aforementioned Christmas budget with a family of 5.

i'm lucky i don't have kids, but i am from a big family.

 

[Asperatis]

Regarding the acrylic bending: get plenty of extra tubes make a few test bends where you look for the sweet spot (not too stiff not too.. Flat?..) the acrylic can burn easily if you're not paying attention for a sec. Never stop rotating the tube so the heat can spread evenly.

Might help too if you look for some youtube videos where they give you a clear how to.

Heating the tube very well to make it wobbly af isn't the best approach either, as it will expand the diameter of the tube slightly. Imo it's good to try and bend it a bit while heating. That way you'll notice if the tube needs some more heat or if it's good to go. Keep some pressure applied too for a few minutes otherwise a 90° bend might flex back a bit, giving you a 95°ish bend. The hardest part is getting the measurements right for a second bend

 

[Permafrost]

Regarding the acrylic bending: get plenty of extra tubes make a few test bends where you look for the sweet spot (not too stiff not too.. Flat?..) the acrylic can burn easily if you're not paying attention for a sec. Never stop rotating the tube so the heat can spread evenly.

Might help too if you look for some youtube videos where they give you a clear how to.

Heating the tube very well to make it wobbly af isn't the best approach either, as it will expand the diameter of the tube slightly. Imo it's good to try and bend it a bit while heating. That way you'll notice if the tube needs some more heat or if it's good to go. Keep some pressure applied too for a few minutes otherwise a 90° bend might flex back a bit, giving you a 95°ish bend. The hardest part is getting the measurements right for a second bend

i've seen a few videos and they're good an all, but talking to some on a forum is much better for learning as the uploader/youtuber can't really reply in time or not bothering at all. let me know what videos you think are more closer to the make for beginners

 

[sfelock]

i've seen a few videos and they're good an all, but talking to some on a forum is much better for learning as the uploader/youtuber can't really reply in time or not bothering at all. let me know what videos you think are more closer to the make for beginners

Hard tubing has always scared me a bit as I have terrible luck to begin with, but I LOVE the clean look of well bent tubing. Jaystwocents did a video a year ago give or take on bending hard tubing, possible in his skunkworks vlog, seemed alright. But there again, major youtuber and would be able to respond to your questions. Also Linus did a build not that long ago where he did hard tubes for the first time and did a segment inside the build log on it but for the life of me I can't remember which video.

Hope this helps some.

On a side note,
I have been hunting through his videos looking for the video where he painted a power supply, I've been toying with the idea a bit but literally have no clue how to approach it.

 

[JR23]

I haven't seen many people good enough at bending acrylic tubing to actually want to listen to their opinion on youtube.

You just need perseverance, the right equipment and plenty of spare tube. There is nothing else to it. If your happy with the first one you do then it will be rubbish, if your still picking up the heat-gun after 8 attempts at the same piece because you think you can get it a little bit better then it will most likely be decent.

Don't attempt anything tighter than the bend radius of your mandrels. Lube up your cord! Make sure the cord is a good fit for the tube, ID does vary and so does the tolerance on cord! Don't put cord through the entire piece make 3 bends and then try and get the cord out because smashing the tube with a hammer to get your cord back isn't fun. Make sure the cord only goes through the part your heating. Keep it lubed with olive oil.

JR