So what is the 'just the right amount of rad'?

[wrenaudrey]

I've previously made a thread before about going with a fully pledged water cooled system or get a H100i, but that's old and dead now.
But in the end, I've decided to go with a fully pledge WC system,...in the coming months (because im not a millionaire...yet).

So...what is the 'just the right amount of rad'?

I have a CM Storm Stryker (just recently bought).
These are the ones im willing to 'get wet', when they are released(some):
i7 4770k - low/mild OC, 4.2-4.6GHz
Z87 Motherboard - not super high end nor too low end
Asus GTX 670 DCUII - maybe a 2nd in the future

Now the rads. Yes I know, the guv'nor has a vid on modding this case for a 360 up top but I don't really have the tools or the 'modding hands' that some people have got nor am I willing to sacrifice that handle; because dayum! this case is he-a-vy!

Ok now seriously, the rads. I was thinking of 2x 240mm.
To be precise,
1x Alphacool ST30 240mm for the top http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...0mm-Dual-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15304.html
1x Alphacool ST45 240mm for the bottom http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...0mm-Dual-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15353.html

OR

2x XSPC EX 240mm for the top and bottom http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-EX-Series-240mm-Dual-Radiator--EX240-pid-14705.html

Will 2x 240mm be enough to cool the components stated above?

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Major change at post #5

Alright okay, first of all I thought about it very hard and have decided to return my Storm Stryker.
And I have now bought and have right beside me a white NZXT Switch 810


I've got my ruler out and measured the rad places that is ideal.
So here is what I've come up with:
Top: 1x Alphacool XT45 360mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Alphacool-NexXxos-XT45-360mm-Triple-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15354.html
Bottom: 1x Alphacool UT60 240mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Alphacool-NexXxoS-UT60-Full-Copper-240mm-Dual-Radiator-pid-14818.html

OR

Top: 1x XSPC EX360 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-EX-Series-360mm-Triple-Radiator--EX360-pid-14706.html
Bottom: 1x XSPC RX240 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-RX-Series-240mm-Dual-Radiator--RX240-pid-7874.html

Now will that cool, with reasonably low rpm SP fans, 4770k @4.2-4.6Ghz and a potential 2x Asus 670 DCUII?

Edit: Planning only a PULL config, for starters on both rads.

 

[SeekaX]

I've previously made a thread before about going with a fully pledged water cooled system or get a H100i, but that's old and dead now.
But in the end, I've decided to go with a fully pledge WC system,...in the coming months (because im not a millionaire...yet).

So...what is the 'just the right amount of rad'?

I have a CM Storm Stryker (just recently bought).
These are the ones im willing to 'get wet', when they are released(some):
i7 4770k - low/mild OC, 4.2-4.6GHz
Z87 Motherboard - not super high end nor too low end
Asus GTX 670 DCUII - maybe a 2nd in the future

Now the rads. Yes I know, the guv'nor has a vid on modding this case for a 360 up top but I don't really have the tools or the 'modding hands' that some people have got nor am I willing to sacrifice that handle; because dayum! this case is he-a-vy!

Ok now seriously, the rads. I was thinking of 2x 240mm.
To be precise,
1x Alphacool ST30 240mm for the top http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...0mm-Dual-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15304.html
1x Alphacool ST45 240mm for the bottom http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...0mm-Dual-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15353.html

OR

2x XSPC EX 240mm for the top and bottom http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-EX-Series-240mm-Dual-Radiator--EX240-pid-14705.html

Will 2x 240mm be enough to cool the components stated above?

definitely the first option, and yes, for a single gpu setup this should be enough. take a look at the monsta rads by alphacool.

 

[wrenaudrey]

definitely the first option, and yes, for a single gpu setup this should be enough. take a look at the monsta rads by alphacool.

Their monsta rads are 80mm. I cannot possibly fit that anywhere in my system, unless I put it vertically down the front, which gives me a headache of where to put my platter HDD and SSD

EDIT: So 2x 240mm will be enough to cool down a 4770k, GTX670 and another maybe in the future?

 

[jamesriley94]

Their monsta rads are 80mm. I cannot possibly fit that anywhere in my system, unless I put it vertically down the front, which gives me a headache of where to put my platter HDD and SSD

EDIT: So 2x 240mm will be enough to cool down a 4770k, GTX670 and another maybe in the future?

I'd personally go for a 60mm thick in the roof - maybe a UT60, and go for the monsta in the front.
There isn't really skimping out when it comes to watercooling, and if you do it the ways you've suggested, to me, it isn't really worth the effort and you'd be just as well off getting an H100i.

You can easily relocate hard drives to behind the motherboard tray, or in the optical bays. In my Switch, I'm currently running in the 4 optical drives - a rad which covers one, a single bay res, then an HDD and an SSD taking up the other 2. It's definitely worth looking into possibilities like that, rather than sacrificing good temperatures in order to keep HDD bays.

With a 60mm thick, and 80mm thick, you would get away with the CPU and SLI. With the first options you've suggested however, you'll be pushing the limits on temps.

 

[wrenaudrey]

Alright okay, first of all I thought about it very hard and have decided to return my Storm Stryker.
And I have now bought and have right beside me a white NZXT Switch 810


I've got my ruler out and measured the rad places that is ideal.
So here is what I've come up with:
Top: 1x Alphacool XT45 360mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...m-Triple-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15354.html
Bottom: 1x Alphacool UT60 240mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...ull-Copper-240mm-Dual-Radiator-pid-14818.html

OR

Top: 1x XSPC EX360 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-EX-Series-360mm-Triple-Radiator--EX360-pid-14706.html
Bottom: 1x XSPC RX240 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-RX-Series-240mm-Dual-Radiator--RX240-pid-7874.html

Now will that cool, with reasonably low rpm SP fans, 4770k @4.2-4.6Ghz and a potential 2x Asus 670 DCUII?

Edit: Planning only a PULL config, for starters on both rads.

 

[SeekaX]

Alright okay, first of all I thought about it very hard and have decided to return my Storm Stryker.
And I have now bought and have right beside me a white NZXT Switch 810


I've got my ruler out and measured the rad places that is ideal.
So here is what I've come up with:
Top: 1x Alphacool XT45 360mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...m-Triple-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15354.html
Bottom: 1x Alphacool UT60 240mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...ull-Copper-240mm-Dual-Radiator-pid-14818.html

OR

Top: 1x XSPC EX360 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-EX-Series-360mm-Triple-Radiator--EX360-pid-14706.html
Bottom: 1x XSPC RX240 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-RX-Series-240mm-Dual-Radiator--RX240-pid-7874.html

Now will that cool, with reasonably low rpm SP fans, 4770k @4.2-4.6Ghz and a potential 2x Asus 670 DCUII?

Edit: Planning only a PULL config, for starters on both rads.

put a ut60 in the top and you are golden.

 

[wrenaudrey]

put a ut60 in the top and you are golden.

I could but then I don't think ill be able to do a push/pull config, when more funds come.
And also, if its 60mm and only one set of fan pushing or pulling @5v (or whatever the lowest is), will it be enough to move the air?

 

[SeekaX]

I could but then I don't think ill be able to do a push/pull config, when more funds come.
And also, if its 60mm and only one set of fan pushing or pulling @5v (or whatever the lowest is), will it be enough to move the air?

one set of fans will do just fine and afaik 60mm push pull fits in the switch 810.

 

[jamesriley94]

one set of fans will do just fine and afaik 60mm push pull fits in the switch 810.

Depends entirely on the motherboard dude.
I get away with it, just. But it will completely depend on the heatsinks and CPU power connectors at the top of the motherboard.

 

[SeekaX]

Depends entirely on the motherboard dude.
I get away with it, just. But it will completely depend on the heatsinks and CPU power connectors at the top of the motherboard.

do you have the pulling fans on the outside? i heard about people fitting monsta push pull configurations with the fans on the outside.

 

[S_I_N]

the old standard was 2*120mm start plus 120mm per block there after. But as TDP's have dropped some see getting away with less. But I always base it on the old standard so running fans on low speed will keep things cool. I'm currently running 420mm and 280mm UT'60's in push pull on lowest fans speed and only have to turn fans up a tad under medium (which is still quiet) if I'm gaming longer than say 4 hrs. And even then its not because its getting overly hot. 45c cpu and gpu's under 50c its just cause I wanna do it lol

 

[airdeano]

EDIT: So 2x 240mm will be enough to cool down a 4770k, GTX670 and another maybe in the future?

no one knows yet.. might be worse in temperatures than ivey bridge. dunno.
you might wanna wait and find a review or eight to what the overclock
experience will be...

the dual 240 on thinnish radiators will be marginal (ivey/sandy) for a hot clock
and GPU. for headroom and quite fans, the low fin per inch rads are helpful
but to keep from quickly saturating your system, the thicker rads will be
more helpful.

 

[Master&Puppet]

If you are stuck for space then I'd suggest that you pick larger radiators over push/pull. I've got plenty of air coming out of my 360 monsta with a single set of typhoons running at 7-800 rpm.

 

[wrenaudrey]

no one knows yet.. might be worse in temperatures than ivey bridge. dunno.
you might wanna wait and find a review or eight to what the overclock
experience will be...

the dual 240 on thinnish radiators will be marginal (ivey/sandy) for a hot clock
and GPU. for headroom and quite fans, the low fin per inch rads are helpful
but to keep from quickly saturating your system, the thicker rads will be
more helpful.

If you are stuck for space then I'd suggest that you pick larger radiators over push/pull. I've got plenty of air coming out of my 360 monsta with a single set of typhoons running at 7-800 rpm.

Thanks again for the input, BUT I have changed the situation, like I edited/said on the first post and the 5th, here it is anyway:

Alright okay, first of all I thought about it very hard and have decided to return my Storm Stryker.
And I have now bought and have right beside me a white NZXT Switch 810


I've got my ruler out and measured the rad places that is ideal.
So here is what I've come up with:
Top: 1x Alphacool XT45 360mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Alphacool-NexXxos-XT45-360mm-Triple-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15354.html
Bottom: 1x Alphacool UT60 240mm http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Alphacool-NexXxoS-UT60-Full-Copper-240mm-Dual-Radiator-pid-14818.html

OR

Top: 1x XSPC EX360 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-EX-Series-360mm-Triple-Radiator--EX360-pid-14706.html
Bottom: 1x XSPC RX240 http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/XSPC-RX-Series-240mm-Dual-Radiator--RX240-pid-7874.html

Now will that cool, with reasonably low rpm SP fans, 4770k @4.2-4.6Ghz and a potential 2x Asus 670 DCUII?

Edit: Planning only a PULL config, for starters on both rads.