g0ggles1994
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I should have said it will be ITX...as above
although I'd be all over an ITX Taichi
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although I'd be all over an ITX Taichi
Excalabur50
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I should have said it will be ITX...
HaHa no probs
Dicehunter
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Next weekend I'm going to the west of Ireland, The Republic, To my cousins farm for a long weekend, No internet, No noise, Can't wait ^_^
Dicehunter
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Just flashed my 2080 Ti FE with an EVGA XC Ultra bios, It uses the same exact die i.e 1E07 and A1 stepping.
Now I have actual control of my fans, 0-100% instead of 40-100%
Sadly still have no control over the disabled RGB like some others have managed to get working.
Now I have actual control of my fans, 0-100% instead of 40-100%
This makes me smile
https://www.eha.digital/research/amd-tops-60-in-european-cpu-preference-study/
But this one doesnt
https://www.jonpeddie.com/press-rel...t-soars-led-by-nvidia-reports-jon-peddie-rese
Which tells me Nvidia can continue to charge what they want for cards and we lap it up. Even I am tempted just because of the upgrade itch.
https://www.eha.digital/research/amd-tops-60-in-european-cpu-preference-study/
But this one doesnt
https://www.jonpeddie.com/press-rel...t-soars-led-by-nvidia-reports-jon-peddie-rese
Which tells me Nvidia can continue to charge what they want for cards and we lap it up. Even I am tempted just because of the upgrade itch.
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
But this one doesnt
https://www.jonpeddie.com/press-rel...t-soars-led-by-nvidia-reports-jon-peddie-rese
Which tells me Nvidia can continue to charge what they want for cards and we lap it up. Even I am tempted just because of the upgrade itch.
We need AMD to bring out GPU's that can compete with Nvidia's high end, While the most money is to be made in the mid range of GPU's, Most people do gauge their purchasing decision based on a companies top end product.
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I just want competition period. It should not be right do allow such market dominance.
AlienALX
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That's almost meaningless.
Nvidia are in a whole crap ton of laptops too. That's why their market share looks so good. Laptops and OEM desktops are still a huge part of their business. It's the same as Intel in desktops.
AMD have taken a small chunk on desktops and that will only get better but it's their laptop GPUs they need to concentrate on now. Obviously they've got APUs covered but they also need good gaming GPUs for laptops which they haven't got yet.
Don't be fooled by this news. Nvidia are just as much in trouble as they were last year and the year before.
IE when AMD do their version of RT on the consoles and it's not what Nvidia built this extremely expensive hardware for then AMDs products will look far better than they do now. They already look good in DX12, just wait until the dev cycle for the next gen consoles kicks in and AMD have hardware parity yet Nvidia need devs to do a crap ton more work to make it support their RT cores.
Nvidia are still very much in trouble and desperately need another avenue. One they still can't seem to find.
Nvidia are in a whole crap ton of laptops too. That's why their market share looks so good. Laptops and OEM desktops are still a huge part of their business. It's the same as Intel in desktops.
AMD have taken a small chunk on desktops and that will only get better but it's their laptop GPUs they need to concentrate on now. Obviously they've got APUs covered but they also need good gaming GPUs for laptops which they haven't got yet.
Don't be fooled by this news. Nvidia are just as much in trouble as they were last year and the year before.
IE when AMD do their version of RT on the consoles and it's not what Nvidia built this extremely expensive hardware for then AMDs products will look far better than they do now. They already look good in DX12, just wait until the dev cycle for the next gen consoles kicks in and AMD have hardware parity yet Nvidia need devs to do a crap ton more work to make it support their RT cores.
Nvidia are still very much in trouble and desperately need another avenue. One they still can't seem to find.
g0ggles1994
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We know Nvidia, they'll throw money at developers to get them to use their proprietary RT, yes it'll be a hell of a lot more effort on the developers part, but unfortunately money talks, and the publishers have their grip on that.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Publishers mean jank. It's the devs. I'm not sure how much Nvidia pay but it's clearly not enough or often enough and they get greedy.
What I mean is they paid for devs to support SLi right? However as soon as the DX11 dev cycle ended that was the end of that. Anyone who buys two GPUs now is either rich, stupid or both of the above. It simply doesn't work any more and AMD gave up on Crossfire also.
The way consoles are going we'll see more of the same. When the RTX cores do nothing they literally do absolutely nothing. This isn't the issue though. The issue is when they are doing nothing and it's level pegging the 5700XT is up there with the 2080 Super.
And that isn't going to change much, because every platform will be more important than a niche technology unique to one platform. A very small percentage of that platform also, given Nvidia sell non RT cards that are very good right now.
As I said, Nvidia can't afford to throw millions at devs (and buy codes to give away etc) on every game. And even if they could eventually GPUs would get even more expensive to fund the habit.
Realistically? RTX is a ticking timebomb. And it'll tick way faster once these two new consoles come along and have RT. Right now? OK look, think about it like this. Imagine what sort of console Sony and Nvidia could provide for the price of a 2080ti. Not that I'm staying they'll be that much but yeah. XB1X does decent 4k right? Better than Stadia. It cost £450 at launch. Now double that budget now. It would demolish a GPU purchase.
We also know consoles are getting NVME etc so the excuses to build a PC costing twice as much becomes less worth it.
What I mean is, when the XB1X launched a whole ton of smart arse YT people tried to build a gaming PC for $450 that could beat it. They couldn't even get remotely close. None could run any sort of 4k at any settings it was completely out of the question.
Consoles were easy to beat price to performance up until that point and that gap will become a chasm when the next gen launch. Especially with GPU prices as they are.
Avet
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Manufacturers throwing money at the devs so they will use their tech... That is how the world works regardless of us liking it. I have a strong feeling that AMD slightly nudged cryptocurrency into overdrive. That is what brought them back.
I agree about pretty much everything here but that RT cores do nothing is wrong. They do so many great things. There is just not enough of them. If Nvidia crammed twice as many or more into cards things would be much different. This way its just nahhh... I hope they correct that mistake in the next-gen GPUs.
Nvidia is acting like a spoiled brat and is in dire need of few slaps on the bum. See how Intel is giving 50% discount on their CPUs. I just hope we get a competitive market on GPU side too.
I agree about pretty much everything here but that RT cores do nothing is wrong. They do so many great things. There is just not enough of them. If Nvidia crammed twice as many or more into cards things would be much different. This way its just nahhh... I hope they correct that mistake in the next-gen GPUs.
Nvidia is acting like a spoiled brat and is in dire need of few slaps on the bum. See how Intel is giving 50% discount on their CPUs. I just hope we get a competitive market on GPU side too.
23RO_UK
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Just flashed my 2080 Ti FE with an EVGA XC Ultra bios, It uses the same exact die i.e 1E07 and A1 stepping.
Now I have actual control of my fans, 0-100% instead of 40-100%Sadly still have no control over the disabled RGB like some others have managed to get working.
I did the exact same thing with my 2080 FE a while ago Dice, I recall thinking, my God, what a difference (after dialing in a custom fan curve) - oh, and then how hard I'd like to repeatedly slap Nvidia's Engineers
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I did the exact same thing with my 2080 FE a while ago Dice, I recall thinking, my God, what a difference (after dialing in a custom fan curve) - oh, and then how hard I'd like to repeatedly slap Nvidia's Engineers
This !!! :yelrotflmao:
I don't mind there not being a zero RPM mode by default but considering how massive the fin stack is on the whole card you'd think even a 20% fan speed would be available by default, I mean, Look at this thing, It covers the entire card and the brains over at Nvidia couldn't enable a proper fan curve option ?!?!?!?
I guess Nvidia want 100% assurance to reduce the amount of RMA as possible. Even though we see no harm in 0 rpm in idle or low usage, I guess Nvidia saw the chance 0.0001% of cards might fail from this to which an RMA could occur.
Also think how many plebs would try to return a card because "the fans dont spin when i turn on my pc"
Also think how many plebs would try to return a card because "the fans dont spin when i turn on my pc"
Just to clear something up, AMDs version of raytracing isn't that different from NVidias with what's accelerated and how, and NVidias raytracing isn't proprietary at any level either. RT has seen quick adoption because it significantly reduces workload for developers with most effects, NVidia has lots of free support online too, I think it would have only been a couple of early devs like DICE they really had to give extra financial support to.
Any code made for RTX(DXR) games out now will be useful for writing console raytracig software on AMD hardware, RTX will benefit hugely from the consoles having raytracing support and vice versa.
Any code made for RTX(DXR) games out now will be useful for writing console raytracig software on AMD hardware, RTX will benefit hugely from the consoles having raytracing support and vice versa.
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SPS
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Not used them personally, I just know of them because they are local to me.
https://shop.wedo3dprinting.com/services/3d-printing.html
Excalabur50
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So yesterday and last night we had ash falling from the sky from all the fires and there was a fire in a parkland a kilometer from my house in the bloody middle of surburbia! that took out two hectares of land whilst an out of control fire about 50k's away as the crow flies wiped out 235,000 hectares in hours, it getting nuts over here visibility is one to two k's and the smoke is so bad walking in it is the same as smoking 30 cigarettes and our governments are all being a pack of morons sitting on their hands doing F&^% All! now it's not real clear but I've added a screen shot of some of the fires and the grey outlines are the area burnt currently. Luckily a break in the weather has dropped the fires from 180 or so to just over 80 I think so that's some good news.
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