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Small talk & Chit chat
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
The support structure looks awful
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Going to install Linux Mint Cinnamon tomorrow on an older laptop for s* and giggles. I have a spare ssd so can just swap it out with the windows drive and have fun. Just have to wait for the charger to arrive. Hope it doesn't arrive super late because that'll put off my experiment for a little while 
To be honest I prefer Manjaro over the Linux Mint flavours when it comes to easy well polished distros, has a very similar feel and has lots of DE options including Cinnamon, but a lot more modular and less problematic especially when it comes to using the latest drivers & software, definitely worth a try I'd say especially if you prefer the Arch way of doings things over Debian.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
No idea what you just said. All I know is Linux Mint is the most popular and it's a very similar user experience to Windows. That's all I care about really.
Manjaro is more popular than Mint nowadays.
DE is a desktop environment, so the thing you interact with, so it's what dictates how the experience feels. Cinnamon is what gives it a Windows like feel. But I'd say Manjaro is much easier & simpler overall nowadays, it has the same goals as Mint, but a better execution (It's what I install on my little sisters(Under 10) old netbooks).
DE is a desktop environment, so the thing you interact with, so it's what dictates how the experience feels. Cinnamon is what gives it a Windows like feel. But I'd say Manjaro is much easier & simpler overall nowadays, it has the same goals as Mint, but a better execution (It's what I install on my little sisters(Under 10) old netbooks).
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looz
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I don't see the point of Manjaro, if you want Arch with an installer, why not use an install script and get actual Arch? Manjaro uses its own repos for many packages, causing both delays over regular arch and sometimes even incompatibilities.
Manjaro is a lot more than just Arch with an installer, the settings & package management, and particularly driver management is all unique to the platform amognst other aspects. Usually the DE's are heavily modified for the wider platform too(Depends on which flavour but there's quite a lot of regularly updated ones).
Manjaro Unstable is basically all the same packages as Arch besides those that are customised for the platform, the stable version just has a slower cycle with a few weeks testing after packages hit Arch distribution.
But saying just use Arch really misses the point of these distros imo, the design philosophies of pure Arch & Manjaro/Mint are at exactly opposite ends of the spectrum, one just happens to use the other as a base. I wouldn't expect a Windows only user to be able to do much practical on Arch without hours of reading documentation, Manjaro is all point & click and never requires command line use for regular maintenance.
Manjaro Unstable is basically all the same packages as Arch besides those that are customised for the platform, the stable version just has a slower cycle with a few weeks testing after packages hit Arch distribution.
But saying just use Arch really misses the point of these distros imo, the design philosophies of pure Arch & Manjaro/Mint are at exactly opposite ends of the spectrum, one just happens to use the other as a base. I wouldn't expect a Windows only user to be able to do much practical on Arch without hours of reading documentation, Manjaro is all point & click and never requires command line use for regular maintenance.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Mint has been the most popular for years. Only recently fell down a little bit. Doesn't matter I want to try it but thank you for the suggestion.
looz
Active member
Pop! OS is the distro I'd recommend for newbies tbh.
https://youtu.be/IGEoXH-zUyM
Mint had a bit of a farce recently, their website got compromised and the download got replaced with malware. Though that's not why I'd recommend against mint, it's again the same as with Manjaro - they've got their own repos and the said repos aren't as good as the "parent distro" has. In Mint's case the parent distro is Ubuntu, though.
And I am in no way recommending Arch for newbies, but Manjaro sits in an awkward spot IMO. Too slow to be considered a cutting edge distro, but doesn't enjoy the stability of slower distros either.
https://youtu.be/IGEoXH-zUyM
Mint had a bit of a farce recently, their website got compromised and the download got replaced with malware. Though that's not why I'd recommend against mint, it's again the same as with Manjaro - they've got their own repos and the said repos aren't as good as the "parent distro" has. In Mint's case the parent distro is Ubuntu, though.
And I am in no way recommending Arch for newbies, but Manjaro sits in an awkward spot IMO. Too slow to be considered a cutting edge distro, but doesn't enjoy the stability of slower distros either.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Thank you for the suggestion. I actually really like the look of that. If I end up not liking Mint much I'll definitely try that next.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
So I am now on my 3rd Radeon 7, The first just crashed when GPU usage went higher than 50%, With the 2nd one the junction temp reached 110'c, Which is horrendously easy to do, And any game crashed, Followed by a black screen for 10 seconds followed by a driver recovery, And now this one does the same thing.
From the looks of it the Radeon 7 is an extremely rushed product and the driver team have absolutely no clue what they are doing with the card.
Going to send it back, Get a new replacement and sell it at a little bit of a loss then go back to Nvidia for the time being until AMD sort themselves out.
From the looks of it the Radeon 7 is an extremely rushed product and the driver team have absolutely no clue what they are doing with the card.
Going to send it back, Get a new replacement and sell it at a little bit of a loss then go back to Nvidia for the time being until AMD sort themselves out.
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I have never in my lifetime known someone to have so much hardware problems as you. Are you OCing everything in a sauna room?
That's funny, I only bought one, and I can overclock the bejesus out of it with no crashing at all. Maybe your PSU is getting flaky?
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I have never in my lifetime known someone to have so much hardware problems as you. Are you OCing everything in a sauna room?
Lolz XD the really weird thing is I can run Valley at 4K max settings 8xMSAA for hours on end no problem at 100% GPU usage and junction temp gets to 110'c and core temp to 77'c but it stays stable, Same thing with Firestrike, Heaven etc... Very weird case.
No I've tested a 295X2 which is 1 power hungry card and also a 2080 Ti, Both no problems.
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Oh yeah, I should have mentioned that mine is underwater. That is one card I could NOT live with on air. No damn way.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
So I tried using Linux Mint as my first experiment into using Ubuntu based OS's. Didn't really like it and I couldn't get over the UI.
Switched to Zorin 12.4 and it's way better. More like Windows but that's not a bad thing. The UI is far better and actually simple things are easy to do. Can't wait to test Zorin 15. In beta but my gawd it looks good. Only negative I can see is they are changing the default browser from Chromium to FF. So I'll have to definitely switch that back. FF is awful in my experience.
Switched to Zorin 12.4 and it's way better. More like Windows but that's not a bad thing. The UI is far better and actually simple things are easy to do. Can't wait to test Zorin 15. In beta but my gawd it looks good. Only negative I can see is they are changing the default browser from Chromium to FF. So I'll have to definitely switch that back. FF is awful in my experience.
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