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NeverBackDown said:
We should take a Quadro card and bench it and speculate at that I guess
That would be boring too
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Linus did a video a while back testing a Maxwell Quadro which was basically a Titan X Maxwell with an extra 12GB of memory and it was only 1 frame behind the Titan X in Crysis 3 so I doubt the situation will be much different here considering the core count and core types will be the same, Only factor that could change this is if it has a MUCH higher core clock.
 
Dicehunter said:
Linus did a video a while back testing a Maxwell Quadro which was basically a Titan X Maxwell with an extra 12GB of memory and it was only 1 frame behind the Titan X in Crysis 3 so I doubt the situation will be much different here considering the core count and core types will be the same, Only factor that could change this is if it has a MUCH higher core clock.
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It also has mature drivers and been out for years.
It really isn't comparable.
The 7970 launched with crappy drivers. Then in October 2011 the fist version of the GCN official drivers were released (previous drivers were VLIW) the performance increase was over 100% in some cases and it made a crappy "gaming card" into the fastest card on the market only losing to the 580 in nvidia titles with TWIMTBP.

So same card, same cores, same everything, yet only a driver increase and IMMENSE performance increases.

Remember AMD also said it will be much faster. Why? Drivers. So to all the people who are bashing it and losing faith, just wait.
 
You can't really bash a product when it's not meant for the purpose. Honestly you wouldn't expect a cheese grater to give you hot soup. The question I would ask is how does this card perform in its "Native" envirorment.
 
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Tolemac said:
You can't really bash a product when it's not meant for the purpose. Honestly you wouldn't expect a cheese grater to give you hot soup. The question I would ask is how does this card perform in its "Native" envirorment.
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Exactly. Though I doubt many devs have these cards installed right now so would be difficult to get some actual insight.
 
AlienALX said:
Wow. So it's basically level peggings with the 1070, sometimes beating it, sometimes losing against it.

That's not very good is it?

*called 1070 from the beginning*
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And that performance can be had for only $1000 USD! :p

In all seriousness, it's like pre- Polaris; that was hyped up to beat everything and it was ultimately a house of cards. I get why Nvidia isn't scared, ever. That said, this specific Vega card being used for both devs and the switch to game mode (with its ultimately useless low performance in the game you just created) is so out there it's not even filling a niche market. That and having two drivers, one for each mode, is a disaster waiting to happen. If I were a developer I'd get a Quadro card.
 
The F34R Channel said:
And that performance can be had for only $1000 USD! :p

In all seriousness, it's like pre- Polaris; that was hyped up to beat everything and it was ultimately a house of cards. I get why Nvidia isn't scared, ever. That said, this specific Vega card being used for both devs and the switch to game mode (with its ultimately useless low performance in the game you just created) is so out there it's not even filling a niche market. That and having two drivers, one for each mode, is a disaster waiting to happen. If I were a developer I'd get a Quadro card.
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If you didn't listen to BS and saw Polaris for what it was then you would have known how it would perform. Again, science. I knew it was a mid range tech just from looking at it. And it delivered, IMO. It was selling well to gamers before mining completely ruined the product stack which is a real shame.

I gotta admit when I saw your post with the review in it my heart did beat a little faster for a while. Then my mind said "Hey you know what if this thing is any good I will save for a couple of months and buy one !". But there's no justifying £999 for that. You could get two 1070s for that and they would destroy it.

I do expect better gaming performance from Vega when it becomes a desktop part, but it's clear it suffers from all of the problems other AMD cards do. I mean look at it go in Hitman.. Sadly that's about where it stops.

Ah well. At least I know now why AMD have delayed the crap out of it.

Saw a 1080ti amp! today for £630. If I suddenly get back into gaming again* I may get one of those.

*if any games that I want to play actually come out, because right now there's nothing for me. That prison break co op one has me drooling, but it's not coming out for ages.
 
Oh I knew exactly what Polaris was and what Vega is, for that matter. The RX will be a bit better but it won't touch the relatively soon redundant* Ti /Xp.

*Volta is coming.

Yeah mining sure ruined prices for us! The Ti I saw now costs almost €900 wtf!? Hoping prices will come down eventually but fearing that like hounds that have tasted blood, they'll remain high(er)...
 
The F34R Channel said:
Oh I knew exactly what Polaris was and what Vega is, for that matter. The RX will be a bit better but it won't touch the relatively soon redundant* Ti /Xp.

*Volta is coming.

Yeah mining sure ruined prices for us! The Ti I saw now costs almost €900 wtf!? Hoping prices will come down eventually but fearing that like hounds that have tasted blood, they'll remain high(er)...
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Volta is not coming the latest rumour is it will be a die shrink pascal
 
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