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Well this makes for interesting reading, although with Ryzen not being adopted fast enough and also Vega these stats speak volumes.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

I don't see how this speaks volumes. Steam HW is not an accurate source. Only for the simple reason, not all systems participate in the survey. Obviously Ryzen is not going to blow up the charts since it just launched, but it is climbing. While it is climbing it still is a small amount in the grand scheme of things on top of that it also depends if any or even all of users who are using Ryzen participated in the survey. And they didn't. So it's inconclusive.
Vega isn't even relevant in those stats. The only thing I could see happening, which btw the stats don't show, is that it is going to take a long time to release, so Nvidias high tier cards like the 1070 would increase in sales. But the survey doesn't show that. Although we know in reality it is actually increasing simply due to the fact that Nvidias sales projection is expected to be yet again a large increase. This is a more reliable source than Steams HW.

Well this makes for interesting reading, although with Ryzen not being adopted fast enough and also Vega these stats speak volumes.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

I don't see how this speaks volumes. Steam HW is not an accurate source. Only for the simple reason not all systems participate in the survey. Obviously Ryzen is not going to blow up the charts since it just launched, but it is climbing. While it is climbing it still is a small amount in the grand scheme of things on top of that it also depends if any or even all of users who are using Ryzen participated in the survey. And they didn't. So it's inconclusive.
Vega isn't even relevant in those stats. The only thing I could see happening, which btw the stats don't show, is that it is going to take a long time to release, so Nvidias high tier cards like the 1070 would increase in sales. But the survey doesn't show that. Although we know in reality it is actually increasing simply due to the fact that Nvidias sales projection is expected to be yet again a large increase. This is a more reliable source than Steams HW.
The manufacturers sales report are a better indication than Steams HW survey. Or a 3rd party study that analyzes the data and reports a rough estimate. Really Steams HW is like a last resort..
 
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a 16-core TR CPU could be twice as powerful as the 1800X minus the clock speed deficiency.

I reckon it will be faster in productivity applications but I'm not expecting anything huge over the 1800X for gaming as this is basically 2 x 1800X's stuck together, Maybe a few percent in games, Maybe nothing depending on if the game makes use of the extra cores/threads or not, IPC wise it is an 1800X.
 
I reckon it will be faster in productivity applications but I'm not expecting anything huge over the 1800X for gaming as this is basically 2 x 1800X's stuck together, Maybe a few percent in games, Maybe nothing depending on if the game makes use of the extra cores/threads or not, IPC wise it is an 1800X.

Core for core the Ryzen architecture is better at multi-threading than Intel's Skylake. But with such a high clockspeed advantage over Ryzen, it will probably just go to whatever is optimized the most for that specific software.
 
Core for core the Ryzen architecture is better at multi-threading than Intel's Skylake. But with such a high clockspeed advantage over Ryzen, it will probably just go to whatever is optimized the most for that specific software.

I was comparing the 1800X to the top end Threadripper not Skylake, Meaning the top end Threadripper will most likely not perform any better in games than the 1800X as it's the exact same IPC, Just 2 x 1800X's linked on 1 x PCB, Maybe a few % more in games but nothing otherworldly or meaningful.
 
I was comparing the 1800X to the top end Threadripper not Skylake, Meaning the top end Threadripper will most likely not perform any better in games than the 1800X as it's the exact same IPC, Just 2 x 1800X's linked on 1 x PCB, Maybe a few % more in games but nothing otherworldly or meaningful.

I know, was just expanding on what I also thought it's performance potential would be.^_^
 
Well this makes for interesting reading, although with Ryzen not being adopted fast enough and also Vega these stats speak volumes.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Not really, Valve has nowhere near enough participants in their surveys. When was the last time you were asked to participate in one?

Steam could force all o their users to participate, but they won't. If the data was useful to them they would have already collected it.
 
TBH most of the guys who I know who have bought Ryzen don't even use Steam. They've bought it for productivity and servers etc.

Dell/Alienware announce Threadripper Area 51 and new peripherals.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...rds-and-monitors-plus-a-threadripper-area-51/

So that's it then the rumour that started it all was spot on :)

Ages ago some one found an entry on Sandra? was it, that had Alienware as the OEM and an unidentified AMD CPU with 12 cores.
 
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I haven't been asked to add to the Steam survey in ages. I don't know whether they collect my data without asking, but I do know they haven't asked me.
 
I haven't been asked to add to the Steam survey in ages. I don't know whether they collect my data without asking, but I do know they haven't asked me.

I go 2-3 months without even logging in these days. Then it updates and restarts, then it nags me do I want to take a survey? no, not really.
 
AMD's Threadripper cpu's are going to be exclusive to Alienware pc's till the end of the year, but self builders and smaller OEM's will have access to them once released.

HP, Lenovo and other larger system builders though will not be able to offer Threadripper based systems till 2018.

Source 1: www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3011854/amd-threadripper-alienware-exclusive

Source 2: www.pcworld.com/article/3197759/com...-alienwares-area-51-will-have-it-in-2017.html

DELL SUBSIDIARY Alienware is probably feeling quite pleased with itself, having announced that it has secured an exclusive on AMD's 16-core Threadripper CPU until the end of the year.
 
Creatives new soundcard, With added RGB XD

http://hexus.net/tech/news/peripher...ound-blasterx-ae-5-rgb-soundcard-launched-e3/

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AMD's Threadripper cpu's are going to be exclusive to Alienware pc's till the end of the year, but self builders and smaller OEM's will have access to them once released.

HP, Lenovo and other larger system builders though will not be able to offer Threadripper based systems till 2018.

Source 1: www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3011854/amd-threadripper-alienware-exclusive

Source 2: www.pcworld.com/article/3197759/com...-alienwares-area-51-will-have-it-in-2017.html

PCWorld reports that the exclusive deal only applies to Alienware's big-name PC rivals including HP and Lenovo, noting that "smaller boutique gaming PC vendors", including the likes of Origin PC, Maingear, iBuypower and Cyberpower, will be able to build Threadripper systems. DIY PC builders will have access to AMD's 16-core, 32-thread chips this year.

Ed. I wouldn't say it's a massive win. It's Origin they need to look out for. I doubt HP or Lenovo would have used them in desktops any way, given that HP only makes the odd one and Lenovo are all about the cheaps these days.
 
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