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Funny thing is my games are smooth as silk with my Ryzen rig (1700 non-X), and I reverted to STOCK settings. Memory at 2133 (even though I have 3600CL15 ram), CPU at stock, and Prey is buttery smooth at 4K with my pair of 980s. Back when I was OCing, I had the CPU at 3.8, memory at 3466, and had nothing but stability problems even with decent volts. Reverting back to stock for testing made me realize just how good gaming can be *IF* the CPU takes advantage of Ryzen's cores, and it seems Prey does just that. So here I am, gaming at 3.2Ghz stock on the CPU, and it's a REALLY impressive experience. Based on this one single game (small sample size I know), I've become convinced that if games are properly core optimized, IPC means next to nothing.
TheF34RChannel
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Not sure if this qualifies as news, feel free to move it if not Mark.
On Skylake-X its overclocking potential:
8Pack from OCUK, had this to say after his testing, and I think those interested in buying will be pleased:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30867993
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30868046
Continued by impressive results by der8auer:
New video with a transcript below it:
Looks like AMD will have the price/performance, as per usual, however the pure performance award has to go to Intel (all most likely by the looks of it from the little that's been released and isn't questionable).
On Skylake-X its overclocking potential:
8Pack from OCUK, had this to say after his testing, and I think those interested in buying will be pleased:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30867993
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30868046
Continued by impressive results by der8auer:
New video with a transcript below it:
Looks like AMD will have the price/performance, as per usual, however the pure performance award has to go to Intel (all most likely by the looks of it from the little that's been released and isn't questionable).
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AlienALX
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Couple of things to note.
Firstly 8 Pack works for OCUK, so would tell you a dog poo is amazing, buy it now, it's great etc. Now sure, he's hitting 5ghz but he usually has the entire OEM supply to bin from. Even if he didn't bin then Intel probably would have before handing him a CPU. Same goes for der8auer.
Secondly, Threadripper will no doubt just get cheaper. Since launch Ryzen has dropped quite nicely. I would also strongly imagine that you can get a cheapish board for TR, where as you won't for X299.
Thirdly no one has mentioned TDP. We already know that at stock AMD's Ryzen is amazing. Far better than anything Intel have out per core. Sure, they are hitting 5.1ghz, but what is the cost?
Just my thoughts. Two guys trying desperately to make things sound better than they are.
It still doesn't have the lanes and you can't magic them up out of thin air like you can with an overclock.
Firstly 8 Pack works for OCUK, so would tell you a dog poo is amazing, buy it now, it's great etc. Now sure, he's hitting 5ghz but he usually has the entire OEM supply to bin from. Even if he didn't bin then Intel probably would have before handing him a CPU. Same goes for der8auer.
Secondly, Threadripper will no doubt just get cheaper. Since launch Ryzen has dropped quite nicely. I would also strongly imagine that you can get a cheapish board for TR, where as you won't for X299.
Thirdly no one has mentioned TDP. We already know that at stock AMD's Ryzen is amazing. Far better than anything Intel have out per core. Sure, they are hitting 5.1ghz, but what is the cost?
Just my thoughts. Two guys trying desperately to make things sound better than they are.
It still doesn't have the lanes and you can't magic them up out of thin air like you can with an overclock.
TheF34RChannel
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Perhaps... Perhaps not...
I do think that if this was AMD news and not Intel news everyone would rejoice instead of questioning it
But like I said, maybe, maybe not. We'll know soon.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I've seen 8Pack praise Fury overclocking as he has hundreds of versions to choose from while the average consumer does not have that luxury. It's quite possible that X299 will overclock really well, which is very exciting and good news for Intel, but I don't think it will warrant the huge price increase over Threadripper just like the higher clock speeds of Broadwell-E, Haswell-E and even Kaby Lake don't make them worth it. But that's just me. I'd love an 8-core 4.8Ghz CPU from Intel, but not enough to pay €1000+ for it.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Perhaps... Perhaps not...
I do think that if this was AMD news and not Intel news everyone would rejoice instead of questioning it
Intel always do this. Devil's Canyon was going to hit 5ghz. All of the review samples made it there. Then you bought one and unless you delidded it and had a good one you couldn't get 5ghz. Instead you would get 4.4-4.6.
So then Skylake was definitely, 100% going to do 5ghz. Review samples hit up to 5.2. Then again in the cold light of day it was 4.6-4.8. You could get 5 if you delidded yada yada.
So then Kabylake was going to do 5ghz for every one. Again, it didn't. 4.8-4.9 all day 5ghz if you had awesome cooling or delidded.
So Intel have kinda been waving the 5ghz carrot for a long time now. That was how they sold their 3% because apparently it could clock far higher.
And that's why I think they are releasing Kaby on X299. So that they can have a 5ghz CPU possibly. However, it's confusing the crap out of the platform IMO. Dual channels, quad channels, no IGPU etc etc. Everything every one has said, basically.
Also, going back to that 8 Pack stuff. He states -
So believe me Intel can easily reach and way outperform what Thread ripper is offering in terms of clocks and performance.
Erm, how does he know? correct me if I am wrong here but there are no TR systems in the hands of any one yet right? so how does he know this and come out and categorically state that?
TBH whenever some one has to say "believe me" they are already talking poo. It sounds to me like X299 may be for sale before TR comes out. Hence he is doing what OCUK pay him to do, set the bait.
Maybe he's just peeved that Ryzen isn't a toy for him? I dunno. I just don't see how a 10 core CPU will out do a 16 core CPU, even if there is a 1ghz disparity.
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AngryGoldfish
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And you also have to factor into account how many people actually overclock that high. A large percentage of the market, even in the HEDT sector don't overclock that much. They might squeeze a few hundred megahertz out of their CPU or GPU, but that's it. So while a new 10-core CPU from Intel CAN clock to 4.8Ghz by a professional overclocker who's job is to sell CPU's and has thousands to choose from, the general populous will stick with stock speeds. Even enthusiasts often stick with stock speeds if the CPU serves its purpose at its rated speed. Therefore the selling point of the elusive 5Ghz is moot.
TheF34RChannel
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A 10C can only outdo 16C, in my mind, in ST workloads if the former has the higher frequency and IPC advantage. In MT it won't do other. So agreed 
And oh yeah I don't expect the 99% of samples hitting 5GHz and personally I won't aim for it. With 4.5-4.6 all cores I'm a happy camper.
And oh yeah I don't expect the 99% of samples hitting 5GHz and personally I won't aim for it. With 4.5-4.6 all cores I'm a happy camper.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Cool but still not giving Intel my money, Ryzen was a good eye opener that you can have 99% of the performance of both a 6900K for workloads and a 7700K for games, Sometimes exceeding both, Without paying stupid money, Sticking with AMD for the foreseeable future.
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TheF34RChannel
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Attackers hold Cyperpunk 2077 development files to ransom
CD Projekt Red, best known for its The Witcher franchise, has warned fans that attackers unknown have made off with internal files relating to upcoming sci-fi role-playing game Cyberpunk 2077 and are threatening to leak them if their demands for payment are not met.
http://m.bit-tech.net/33685/
CD Projekt Red, best known for its The Witcher franchise, has warned fans that attackers unknown have made off with internal files relating to upcoming sci-fi role-playing game Cyberpunk 2077 and are threatening to leak them if their demands for payment are not met.
http://m.bit-tech.net/33685/
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I loved their response to them. Basically told the hackers get bent ^_^
TheF34RChannel
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Yep great response!!
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
The new BIOS' that supports AGESA version 1006 for Ryzen shows some nice gains in overclocking. A couple of users on OCN are reporting considerably lower voltages required to hit the same frequency. 4Ghz is still pretty much the limit, but 3.9Ghz overclocks required less voltage.
Korreborg
Member
But that's the thing about x299 for some people a a few 100 bucks does not matter
A 1800x vs a 7820x the extra money is justified if they can delid and use custom water and hit 4,8-5 Ghz instead of "just" 4 ghz on ryzen.
I hope TR is awsome, but i'm not a 100% sure it will be that optimized if a 16 core is 2x8 cores in one. Just look at SLI, yes, sometimes its great, sometime, not so much
A 1800x vs a 7820x the extra money is justified if they can delid and use custom water and hit 4,8-5 Ghz instead of "just" 4 ghz on ryzen.
I hope TR is awsome, but i'm not a 100% sure it will be that optimized if a 16 core is 2x8 cores in one. Just look at SLI, yes, sometimes its great, sometime, not so much
This looks like it could be really good and I am going to be keeping an eye on it.
It looks like it is going to be similar to Destiny which for me after playing Destiny as much as I have I cannot see that being a bad thing.
After watching the gameplay reveal though it also seems to have a feel of Horizon Zero Dawn and a few other games.
Release date from what I have seen is around November 2018 for all platforms.
I think this could be another game I play alongside Destiny 2.
It looks like it is going to be similar to Destiny which for me after playing Destiny as much as I have I cannot see that being a bad thing.
After watching the gameplay reveal though it also seems to have a feel of Horizon Zero Dawn and a few other games.
Release date from what I have seen is around November 2018 for all platforms.
I think this could be another game I play alongside Destiny 2.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
But that's the thing about x299 for some people a a few 100 bucks does not matter
A 1800x vs a 7820x the extra money is justified if they can delid and use custom water and hit 4,8-5 Ghz instead of "just" 4 ghz on ryzen.
I hope TR is awsome, but i'm not a 100% sure it will be that optimized if a 16 core is 2x8 cores in one. Just look at SLI, yes, sometimes its great, sometime, not so much
SLI is a completely different technology though. While the principle of pairing two identical devices together is the same, it's an apples to oranges comparison. A more apples to apples comparison would be to look at the Ryzen 5 4c/8t vs the Ryzen 7 8c/16t CPU that works very well using two 4-core complexes. Considering the 1800X is almost twice as fast as the 1500X, using that as a point of reference, a 16-core TR CPU could be twice as powerful as the 1800X minus the clock speed deficiency.
TheF34RChannel
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Anthem - looks interesting, I'll put it on the list!
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider @ E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTq5pCTOI4o
From the award-winning developers at Arkane® Studios comesDishonored®: Death of the Outsider, the first standalone adventure in the critically-acclaimedDishonored®series. Be a badass supernatural assassin and take on the role of notorious Billie Lurk as she reunites with her mentor Daud in order to pull off the greatest assassination ever conceived. To complete your mission you’ll have to journey deep into the seedy underbelly of Karnaca, where you’ll unravel some the city’s darkest secrets. Along the way you’ll infiltrate underground fight clubs and black magic cults, and retrieve ancient artifacts in a thrilling bank heist mission that sets the table for your greatest mission ever.
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider @ E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTq5pCTOI4o
From the award-winning developers at Arkane® Studios comesDishonored®: Death of the Outsider, the first standalone adventure in the critically-acclaimedDishonored®series. Be a badass supernatural assassin and take on the role of notorious Billie Lurk as she reunites with her mentor Daud in order to pull off the greatest assassination ever conceived. To complete your mission you’ll have to journey deep into the seedy underbelly of Karnaca, where you’ll unravel some the city’s darkest secrets. Along the way you’ll infiltrate underground fight clubs and black magic cults, and retrieve ancient artifacts in a thrilling bank heist mission that sets the table for your greatest mission ever.
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Korreborg
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I hope you are right
I'm just skeptical :mellow:I also hope that the kabylake-X will be awesome. 7,5 GHz on LN2. Maybe 5,5 GHz will be possible on water
Not that i am getting any of them unless i win the lottery 
Wraith
Bettyswollocks
Well this makes for interesting reading, although with Ryzen not being adopted fast enough and also Vega these stats speak volumes.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
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