Question about cooling fluid and color/uv

[Shingara]

Hi, im getting ready to build a system for when ryzen comes out, but i had an idea about the fluid mix and not sure if its doable. After some research i found red uv just doesnt work very well. But im wanting to try and copy the ryzen colors in the loop.

So orange top right and red bottom left, to this i was wondering if i got uv clear blue and then added red dye, would that work, if i lets say uv cathode the top right in the case so that reacted to the uv but the lower left was a normal light which in theory should cancel out the uv there and show the red fluid.

Would that work or would the red dye block out the uv reaction, and if it is possible but im thinking of the wrong mix what would be the right mix ?

Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

 

[Surfie]

Honestly, i have no idea on whether I'm right or not, but personally i would expect the end result of that to be some variant of purple.

I also suspect that the uv reactivity would be hindered somewhat by such a mix, but it would all depend upon what ratios you used.

 

[tinytomlogan]

UV red will never work 'well'

If there was an easy way to do it someone like Mayhems would have had it dialed by now

 

[Shingara]

I thought it was a long shot but you both have confirmed what i originally thought but i just thought it best to check. So thanks for the replys, i will have to think of another way of doing it.

 

[AlienALX]

Red and blue makes purple. I would use red and orange UV tubing. XSPC do it.

 

[SuB]

You could just mix some stuff and try it? lol

 

[Surfie]

I don't know. I kind of like aliens answer. Get two kinds of coloured tubing to match your theme and mix them. As long as the tubes are all from the same manufacturer, you should be golden.

 

[AlienALX]

You could just mix some stuff and try it? lol

The only way you would make red with two colours is if you had red and a UV reactive liquid in clear. Anything else and you will create another colour. /science.

Trust me, played with enough Plasticine as a kid. Always ended up with poo brown haha.

 

[Shingara]

Thats why i was looking at the uv clear blue as a base, and it wasnt so much a point of having static colours which a tube would give but having the colour shift from red to orange via the interaction of uv effect in the fluid and then getting darker as the uv was taking less effect due to a normal led canceling it out.

But on a side, trying todo it with coloured tubes i see as a no go, to try and get the colour shift i can only see by bleaching or some other effect to take the coliur out of the tubes at specific points. And damaging tubes for an effect i dont see as a great idea.

But after thinking on it im just going togo for a red fluid for my loop and forget about the colour chnge effect, but alas maybe this idea could give someone else who is alot better the inspiration for something in a show rig.

But thanks for all the ideas and feedback all the same

 

[SuB]

Thats why i was looking at the uv clear blue as a base, and it wasnt so much a point of having static colours which a tube would give but having the colour shift from red to orange via the interaction of uv effect in the fluid and then getting darker as the uv was taking less effect due to a normal led canceling it out.

But on a side, trying todo it with coloured tubes i see as a no go, to try and get the colour shift i can only see by bleaching or some other effect to take the coliur out of the tubes at specific points. And damaging tubes for an effect i dont see as a great idea.

But after thinking on it im just going togo for a red fluid for my loop and forget about the colour chnge effect, but alas maybe this idea could give someone else who is alot better the inspiration for something in a show rig.

But thanks for all the ideas and feedback all the same

I recall there being a heat reactive fluid around somewhere that might be worth a google or two

 

[AlienALX]

I recall there being a heat reactive fluid around somewhere that might be worth a google or two

Some guy had his tubing dipped so that it looked like carbon when it was cold but as it heated up it became transparent. It was amazing, wish I could remember the name of it now !

 

[SuB]

Some guy had his tubing dipped so that it looked like carbon when it was cold but as it heated up it became transparent. It was amazing, wish I could remember the name of it now !

Oh man, that sounds epic.

I guess thing with 'heat reactive' fluid is you'd need to make it reactive within the range of about 1degC and exactly at the loop temp, which .. lets face it.. nigh on impossible. The loop wouldn't change temp enough for it to work

I reckon this UV idea will work if setup right though.

 

[AlienALX]

Oh man, that sounds epic.

I guess thing with 'heat reactive' fluid is you'd need to make it reactive within the range of about 1degC and exactly at the loop temp, which .. lets face it.. nigh on impossible. The loop wouldn't change temp enough for it to work

I reckon this UV idea will work if setup right though.

It was one of those film dip things where they lay the stuff on top of water and then dip it. Mostly used for camo and stuff.

Yeah heat reactive fluid would be a nightmare. Come summer it would just stay the reacted? colour.

 

[SuB]

It was one of those film dip things where they lay the stuff on top of water and then dip it. Mostly used for camo and stuff.

ahhh Hydrodipping, yeah that's something I'd love to have a 'contact' in.. endless possibilities!

 

[mayhem]

So are you after

1) Red coolant with UV Orange colour
2) Orange coolant with UV Red (will always look pink)
3) Colour change red to orange via heat
4) Colour change via UV light

Questions to answer

1) What tubing are you using?
2) What pump speed are you running at and what pump?
3) What are you Ambient Temps and how much do they fluctuate.
4) What is your coolant temp entering the rads?
5) What are your coolant temp leaving the rads?
6) How long does it take for you coolants to reach equilibrium?
7) Is this a show peace (not for long term use) or a long term use PC.
8) how long are you looking for it to last?

 

[Shingara]

well my system isnt built yet, this is just theory crafting for what i can do when i do build my ryzen system. Im building a case specifically for this so how the loop goes is not set in stone. The res im going to use is an monsoon modular with a d5 pwm pump.

Im going togo for petg clear tubing as the current plan and what temps it will be are a total unknown as i dont think anyone is aware yet of how hot the ryzen or vega will go via thermal due to how they have stated they can 'auto' clock to the cooling provided.

For this reason i was never keen on it being temp based for colour change. What i was leaning towards is a light reactive situation, where normal (led) light can cancel out the uv light to create the the colour shift. And i was leaning towards a nice red that when it reacts to uv, and this is why i was leaning to uv clear blue that it would turn a warm orange colour.

So im not looking for it to make the entire room glow, just for the colour shift to have effect within the loop where it was subject to the uv being focused upon it. As for if this is a show rig, no, this is purly for my use although i think it would look amazing within a show rig, this is just a personal rig and im doing it purly as asthetics for me.

And ill admit i think im going the wrong way about this, there is possibly another way todo this via some kind of interaction with the fluid that isnt uv, maybe those new thermaltake led connections, albiet not a huge fan of cables sprawling all over the system.

 

[mayhem]

There is a way to do what you need how ever the tubing you are using is not good for it. PETG + some coolants is a bad idea as it brakes down and causes issues (some thing were researching right at this moment in time). If we were to looking into a UV colour change coolant you would need to run either glass tubing or acrylic tubing. The pump would need to be a D5 on full belt with a Tube glass res.

How ever this would be an exotic coolant and would not be for long term usage. You'd probably get around 5 to 8 months worth of usage out of it and it possible would strip plated blocks.

UV coolants and types i might be able to help with as we have some new products im working on right now but would need more information on how you are doing it so we could work out a formula for you or a way for you to do it.

 

[Shingara]

Seems what i was looking at is more defo a show effect and not so much a home effect, i dont think the new rig will actually be doable until june july time anyhows dependant on when vega actually comes out so i think the best thing i can do right now is just work on the case etc and sit on my hands and see what happens in the coming months with your products and also obviously the release schedule of the amd stuff.

Also thank you so much for the information you have provided, if it doesnt help me directly now im sure there are others who may look at this and see new varients they can do for breath taking show builds.