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[g0ggles1994]

It's Zotac's fault. That is actually a Quadro PCB. One they used shortly, then switched to the FE PCB. Only, on their site? that Quadro PCB one doesn't exist.

Asus made four Evo cards, all called Dual Evo, all four were different.

Thankfully it just looks like a 10 minute Dremel job. The block itself (metal) looks absolutely identical.

It really takes the mick that they don't show that PCB on their website, absolute plebs. That being said, with it being based off the Quadro, would that make for a better card?

Yeah that didn't go unnoticed on me tbh.

I want at least a Concorde, but I want the SR71. If they launch that? it could be £200 I wouldn't care. I've always wanted to rip one from Heathrow to Phila and see how much quicker I can do it over a 747 (about 8.5 hrs, IIRC). I want it to be realistic too, and suffer from "unstarts". IE, when one of the ramjets burps and sends the plane into a spin lol.

I know, not quite as relaxing as slowly flying around, but deffo much more fun !

Me too on that one, but we might be waiting a while for that. One thing that's annoyed me is that there is Concorde X for FSX but it's no longer available for sale so getting hold of it is pretty much impossible. There is Concorde FXP for X-Plane but that's about it.

 

[AlienALX]

I doubt it would be better. I reckon Nvidia supplied the PCBs though. Edit in. The Quadro will have the connectors in the end for rack mount servers that are only so high tbh.

It's hilarious. About five people make a blower card, right. Zotac, Gigabyte, Inno3d and two others (one is Chinese, IIRC). Any way, I did some research earlier and Gigabyte's rev 1 used the 2080Ti FE board. Their rev 2.0 uses this Quadro board. Inno 3d? the same.

Only Zotac used the Quadro PCB first, then switched to the FE one ffs.

I really hope that with the 3000 series these companies get their acts together. The 2080Ti blower card in itself is an oxymoron, as it just throttles itself half to death. Inno 3d call theirs the Jet. You couldn't make it up ffs. So the first thing you want to do if you get one cheap (like I did) is put on a water block and let it rip. Only they make it about as annoying, confusing and eventually expensive as it can be.

MSI have what? 20 odd models coming? lord give me strength. FFS I bet they are all different too !

 

[Warchild]

Palit and Gainward also do blowers.

 

[AlienALX]

Palit and Gainward also do blowers.

Yup and of course there are the OEM ones Dell and HP use etc.

Quite a few made them but they were all equally as pointless. I would hate to live with one tbh, the Titan XP was bad enough. Immediately flew to high 70s and throttled to 1730mhz. Under water I got 2130 stable. That's a bloody big difference !

 

[Warchild]

Yup and of course there are the OEM ones Dell and HP use etc.

Quite a few made them but they were all equally as pointless. I would hate to live with one tbh, the Titan XP was bad enough. Immediately flew to high 70s and throttled to 1730mhz. Under water I got 2130 stable. That's a bloody big difference !

Well when you sli, blowers are unbeatable for performance. Im talking 1080ti series and before. Very rarely could you overclock 2 cards in SLI and achieve the same OC that you had on a single card setup. With my case under the desk at the time, I heard nothing, but enjoyed lovely warm legs and feet. A badly needed feeling when the winters here were dropping to sub 20C

 

[Damien c]

I need a new hotas but not paying the current prices.


I am looking at either a Warthog or another one I have seen but the other one is from Romania or somewhere like that and is around £700.

 

[Warchild]

I need a new hotas but not paying the current prices.


I am looking at either a Warthog or another one I have seen but the other one is from Romania or somewhere like that and is around £700.

warthog is a decent one but then you are going to need rudders so added cost straight away.

A nice entry level is the X56 from logitech and is cheaper and also has the twist rudder.

 

[Damien c]

warthog is a decent one but then you are going to need rudders so added cost straight away.

A nice entry level is the X56 from logitech and is cheaper and also has the twist rudder.

I have had a X55 and 2x X56, all 3 of them broke and had to be repaired however they broke again and only 1 X56 is currently working which my dad is using.


I just want something solid and well built, which is why I am looking at the Warthog or Virpal ones.

 

[Warchild]

I have had a X55 and 2x X56, all 3 of them broke and had to be repaired however they broke again and only 1 X56 is currently working which my dad is using.


I just want something solid and well built, which is why I am looking at the Warthog or Virpal ones.

The warthog is very solidly built. I had one. Excellent Gimbal on it too but it was heavy. And lacked many buttons as well as rudder functions. So for ED it was a no go for me, returned it for the X56 and i still have the same one after almost 3 years.

btw, Virpil are expensive as hell. I thought you were after a budget style.

Virpil throttle sticks if I remember correct as not complete. You need to buy the base and then choose the control stick type. Both together will cost around €500 iirc. And then you need to spend on a throttle which is an additional 300 or more.

 

[AlienALX]

Well when you sli, blowers are unbeatable for performance. Im talking 1080ti series and before. Very rarely could you overclock 2 cards in SLI and achieve the same OC that you had on a single card setup. With my case under the desk at the time, I heard nothing, but enjoyed lovely warm legs and feet. A badly needed feeling when the winters here were dropping to sub 20C

Puget systems actually used these Zotac in fours in builds they did.

Yeah, blowers were good for multi GPU no doubt. No doubt at all.

The problem is from the 1080Ti and on you started leaving quite large chunks of performance on the table by using one. Especially with the Titan. 1730 to 2130 is a huge uptick. 400mhz.

In 20 series they were awful as gaming cards. Absolutely awful.

 

[Warchild]

Puget systems actually used these Zotac in fours in builds they did.

Yeah, blowers were good for multi GPU no doubt. No doubt at all.

The problem is from the 1080Ti and on you started leaving quite large chunks of performance on the table by using one. Especially with the Titan. 1730 to 2130 is a huge uptick. 400mhz.

In 20 series they were awful as gaming cards. Absolutely awful.

I just saw a 3090 for £1300 equiv. I actually preordered it. Perk of it all is its the cheapest I have seen, and since its not released yet, I can cancel it, beforehand, or return it if the benchmarks are substandard after 60 days.

Same model is already pushed up in price to £1400 so I have saved at least. I put my GPU on the market and already had interest for £950 including block. So I can wait and see how things pan out. Its a good sale on the card, but I know I could get more considering its a golden gaming X trio card that does OC up to 2150 or maybe even more.

Funnily enough, its the Zotac I preordered. Never had one from them before but its probably just a reference card.

 

[trawetSluaP]

I just saw a 3090 for £1300 equiv. I actually preordered it. Perk of it all is its the cheapest I have seen, and since its not released yet, I can cancel it, beforehand, or return it if the benchmarks are substandard after 60 days.

Same model is already pushed up in price to £1400 so I have saved at least. I put my GPU on the market and already had interest for £950 including block. So I can wait and see how things pan out. Its a good sale on the card, but I know I could get more considering its a golden gaming X trio card that does OC up to 2150 or maybe even more.

Funnily enough, its the Zotac I preordered. Never had one from them before but its probably just a reference card.

How and where did you pre-order as every retailer and newsbyte is saying there are no pre-orders. Sales go live on 17th without pre-orders.

 

[Warchild]

How and where did you pre-order as every retailer and newsbyte is saying there are no pre-orders. Sales go live on 17th without pre-orders.

I did it unofficially through my local etailer. I have always purchased from them so know them quite well. They havent taken my money, but 100% guarantee they will hold the card for me when it arrives around the Friday the 18th.

This is the one I will be getting.

I dont care about the cooler anyway as its a temporary measure until the block comes. I have been told this is a reference design so that makes blocking from an early date promising. I know its still a stupid price to pay for a card, but I feel like its a win win for me, comparing other prices, along with the sale of my current card. And the fact that the return guarantee is pretty damn good.

 

[trawetSluaP]

Wish I had a local shop I could do that with!

 

[Warchild]

Wish I had a local shop I could do that with!

ive been loyal to them for years. I have even paid more than I should on items in the past since they couldnt sell it as low as the big franchises like overclockers.

Its an SMB with just 2 stores in Norway. Nice guys though

My only complaint is that they won't buy watercooling parts from their supplier unless its EK these days. Some kind of exclusive deal I suppose. I ask them to get BP stuff all the time

Do free purchases count in this thread?

New phone for work, that I dont pay for.

 

[AlienALX]

I just saw a 3090 for £1300 equiv. I actually preordered it. Perk of it all is its the cheapest I have seen, and since its not released yet, I can cancel it, beforehand, or return it if the benchmarks are substandard after 60 days.

Same model is already pushed up in price to £1400 so I have saved at least. I put my GPU on the market and already had interest for £950 including block. So I can wait and see how things pan out. Its a good sale on the card, but I know I could get more considering its a golden gaming X trio card that does OC up to 2150 or maybe even more.

Funnily enough, its the Zotac I preordered. Never had one from them before but its probably just a reference card.

Awesome man, grats ! it will be super awesome to see these things in the hands of fellow forumites

From what I saw the Zotac cards were very pretty (holo? something like that). Very nice though !

2080Ti prices here have just literally fallen through the floor. That's the UK though. We've always been hard on people when they sell stuff. I soon learned that the USA is nothing like that.

Edit. Yeah that is the one I saw. Lovely looking card.

 

[Warchild]

Awesome man, grats ! it will be super awesome to see these things in the hands of fellow forumites

From what I saw the Zotac cards were very pretty (holo? something like that). Very nice though !

2080Ti prices here have just literally fallen through the floor. That's the UK though. We've always been hard on people when they sell stuff. I soon learned that the USA is nothing like that.

Edit. Yeah that is the one I saw. Lovely looking card.

Im pretty excited, but at the same time a little skeptical due to how Nvidia walled off the benchmarking to 3rd party software so we will see. But im on excellent speaking terms with the store, so I know they won't mind if I backed out of the order. They wont have issues selling them for sure.

And when im paying 15000nok for the card that probably performs slightly slower than Asus who are charging 20,700 for it. I think I had a great deal.

These are the prices from the big store komplett here in Norway. I got it cheaper but look at that Asus price. ( I say I got it cheaper, but then I dont have it yet. So I wont overhype myself any more than that)

 

[AlienALX]

Asus are jokers. Total jokers lol.

 

[Kei]

Some spare valves for my amps. New old stock Mullard EF86 pentodes and GE military issue 6CG7/6FQ7 double triodes as I had no spares in case of failure.

 

[Tolemac]

I did it unofficially through my local etailer. I have always purchased from them so know them quite well. They havent taken my money, but 100% guarantee they will hold the card for me when it arrives around the Friday the 18th.

This is the one I will be getting.

I dont care about the cooler anyway as its a temporary measure until the block comes. I have been told this is a reference design so that makes blocking from an early date promising. I know its still a stupid price to pay for a card, but I feel like its a win win for me, comparing other prices, along with the sale of my current card. And the fact that the return guarantee is pretty damn good.

I am currently looking at the 3080 Trinity myself as it's listed on OCUK for £649. I just need to find out if that has a reference PCB as well. I may want to put a waterblock on it in the future. The Zotac cards have a 5 year warranty according to OCUK https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity-10gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-122-zt.html