Pascal Rumours Who's Excited

Dicehunter said:
PCPER did a good segment on how Sandybridge is good for the moment but it is starting to show signs of age with the latest cards even in single GPU configurations.

Upgrading to something newer did show significant signs of improvement mainly in the frame times department and Crossfire-X/SLI card setups saw a good performance gain of up to 40% and frame times improved too.

I imagine this will be a bigger improvement once AMD's and Nvidia's next line comes out -
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Thanks for the vid link!! Very informing to watch.

Maybe there is hope for my Sandy Bridge, seeing as I'm a single GPU kinda guy who'll have a 1440p monitor in a bit, as then most differences in frame times went away.

Having said that, the differences will likely be larger with Pascal as compared to Maxwell, like you said, and I hope they'll do another vid like this when the former is released. Would be fantastic if they included Haswell-E and Broadwell-E as well. My point is, I might be able to put off the purchase of a new CPU until after I get Pascal. Like until Skylake-E is here? Alternatively, since PCPER tested both CPUs at stock, I expect an overclocked Sandy to be much closer to their Skylake results - if not completey matching them. DX12 might help out here as well, when it's implemented.

Upgrading an entire PC to run the newest GPU makes both sense and does not, if you know what I mean?
 
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I'm always interested to see what both NV and AMD have lined up for their next release. Was very impressed by the 980Ti when it launched, a veritable power-house. Pricey though.

I've had the GPU upgrade itch for a while now - since the original 980 came out, truth be told. Currently using a pair of GTX 680's - as per my sig - which are getting a bit old now. They work GREAT when SLI works, which is most of the time, though a few early access titles I'm playing with currently don't support SLI yet. However, they only have 2gb VRAM which can hurt even at my 1200p resolution. It's frustrating when the cards can manage a decent high FPS, but then hit a stutter every so often as VRAM is paged.

So, yes, I'm pretty excited to see if Pascal delivers on the rumours and leaks we've seen thus far. HBM2 is a given I think, that's been thrown around for a while now and makes sense. I'd assume all but the entry-level Pascal to be shipping with 8gb+ HBM2, but whether said entry-levels actually get HBM at all is another question. Will NV even offer a 4gb HBM1 option like AMD? Will we still see entry-level Pascal cards with DDR5? Is that even possible with the new architecture? We shall see.

The point of main interest for me is when do we get the "Ti" variant. I hope there won't be months of waiting like with the 780Ti and 980Ti, both of these stomping on the non-Ti versions of course. However, I suspect there will still be a large gap, as NV will need time to perfect and optimise Pascal, as they did for Maxwell and Kepler before it.

I have been debating getting a 980Ti in the interim, but it's far more sensible for me to wait - especially as I water cool. I already have umpteen spare GPU water blocks for older cards, don't want to add two more just yet lol.

Scoob.
 
Volta is now due 2018:

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http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...dia-changes-roadmap-volta-is-now-due-in-2018/
 
When I said I looked, I really did look :) quick Google, admittedly. Thanks for the link, quite old then.

Is anyone upgrading their CPU for Pascal? I will keep my current one overclocked and see how it fares - I expect it to do well. I'm excited for the GPU release already! And eager to learn more about its specifications!
 
I'll have to play the GPU switch better with my 980Ti's than I did for my 780Ti's to benefit most from the switch. Pascal sounds like a monster.
 
Mysterae said:
I'll have to play the GPU switch better with my 980Ti's than I did for my 780Ti's to benefit most from the switch. Pascal sounds like a monster.
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How does it sound like a monster? There's no details about it besides the fact they plan on using HBM2:p

I'm just excited for both Nvidia and AMD finally moving on from freaking 28nm!
 
NeverBackDown said:
How does it sound like a monster? There's no details about it besides the fact they plan on using HBM2:p

I'm just excited for both Nvidia and AMD finally moving on from freaking 28nm!
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GP100 is going to have 17 billion transistors according to nVidia... yes, quite a monster
 
I know lol, but I meant not like 900 quid. It would be nice if prices remain the same (or cheaper even but that's obviously wishful thinking). I usually use GPUs for two years tops, so spending something like 700-900 euro would be a lot, but I would really like a top tier card again, it's been a while! But I get way ahead of myself here, talking about prices.
 
The F34R Channel said:
I know lol, but I meant not like 900 quid. It would be nice if prices remain the same (or cheaper even but that's obviously wishful thinking). I usually use GPUs for two years tops, so spending something like 700-900 euro would be a lot, but I would really like a top tier card again, it's been a while! But I get way ahead of myself here, talking about prices.
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Unless you're hoping to run 4K, the x80 will be enough for 1920x1080p, 256-x1080p, 3440x1440p, or 2560x1440p gaming. The Titanium or Titan cards will be the 4K cards, or for those who want every single setting at max even if it looks no better. I can't imagine the x80 will be much more than the 980 was at launch. The 980 was overpriced in my opinion. It's better value now, but many of the good AIB cards are still too expensive. The Classified over here is almost as much as a 980ti, which is silly. Even a heavily overclocked 980 can't come close to a stock 980ti.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
Unless you're hoping to run 4K, the x80 will be enough for 1920x1080p, 256-x1080p, 3440x1440p, or 2560x1440p gaming. The Titanium or Titan cards will be the 4K cards, or for those who want every single setting at max even if it looks no better. I can't imagine the x80 will be much more than the 980 was at launch. The 980 was overpriced in my opinion. It's better value now, but many of the good AIB cards are still too expensive. The Classified over here is almost as much as a 980ti, which is silly. Even a heavily overclocked 980 can't come close to a stock 980ti.
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I'm planning on getting a 2560 x 1440p Gsync monitor before the year ends, and keep it a single card configuration. I like max settings but when possible and when they make an actual difference. I will never buy a titan card (I fail to see their point of existence for me personally), so I can understand if I have to make do with somewhat lesser settings here and there in the future, and that is okay.

I find most cards overpriced at launch, it's the early adopter premium, I think. So I will wait for prices to settle somewhat before buying Pascal. Plus, we get 21% tax here *ouch* and sadly there aren't real proper offers on as compared to eg overclockers. My 970 is only 2.5 months old so I can wait for them prices to come down a bit.
 
Agost said:
GP100 is going to have 17 billion transistors according to nVidia... yes, quite a monster
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Rumors dude. That rumor started months ago and no validation yet:)

The F34R Channel said:
What frequencies can HBM2 do? And yeah, I expect Pascal to be a monster :) but hopefully not priced accordingly.
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How can we know? It's not even out lol:p

Only thing we do know about HBM2 is that the speeds are doubled so you wouldn't be wrong in thinking it'll be 1000mhz since current one is 500mhz. Unless it's still 500mhz but capable of having an I/O of 2 inputs and 2 outputs per cycle. I think it'll be the former though.
 
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