OC3D Review Zotac GTX580
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This card really would not go over 835 dude, may be a lower binned chip as a part of the silicone lottery
I had to go and pick this card up by hand YESTERDAY, so sadly we just did not have enough time with this review. We will get round to covering it though boys.
Runebeard
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Gotta be, as I've seen Palit already do a factory overclocked 580 with the Core running at 835, and usually there's still a little more to be eeked out if you tell it you love it enough. I'd like to think you'd be able to get at least 850 on the core. Plus in the video, Tom did say the Zotac didn't allow for voltage changes, unless I'm going mad again?
Aaa i see still a great review , thank you for that
i am going to get another GPU this week so a bit in the wiggle game in regards what to get
Thanks for another great review
Very much liked the part where you clearly explain/show that in the Furmark test the card has a kickback to keep temps low and the card can actually run really hot.
Though you say its not as bad as it seems I rather wait to see if the 6970 can get same performance at cooler lvl's ,but thts just me
Seen a few discussion on that already pro and against but your conclusion looks to leave no room for discussion.
Now just have to wait till the 6970 drops and then take my pick
Very much liked the part where you clearly explain/show that in the Furmark test the card has a kickback to keep temps low and the card can actually run really hot.
Though you say its not as bad as it seems I rather wait to see if the 6970 can get same performance at cooler lvl's ,but thts just me
Seen a few discussion on that already pro and against but your conclusion looks to leave no room for discussion.
Now just have to wait till the 6970 drops and then take my pick
Rastalovich
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Indeed. Cos afai(we)k, there hasn't been any special favors up to this point - we're not in that teritory yet. That really would skew the prices and offend people tbh.
Word on the unofficial streets in 875+ is more than possible.
So yeah, lottery time.
The zotac did not have voltage options and the driver capped out instantly when you tried to set anything above 860 on this card.
alienware
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Thanks for another great review
Very much liked the part where you clearly explain/show that in the Furmark test the card has a kickback to keep temps low and the card can actually run really hot.
Though you say its not as bad as it seems I rather wait to see if the 6970 can get same performance at cooler lvl's ,but thts just me
Seen a few discussion on that already pro and against but your conclusion looks to leave no room for discussion.
Now just have to wait till the 6970 drops and then take my pick
ATI are doing it too mate.
Basically both companies have said how they don't like Furmark and want it taken out of reviews, so they are introducing throttles onto the cards. And, unlike the throttles of old (5900 series Nvidia GPUs) that were based on temps these new throttles are based on wattage.
ATI used to have a clever trick with the 9700 and 9800 GPUs. They put on some sort of fuse or resitor that would blow or change if you overclocked the card. At which point they would void warranty. However in the few years since they have realised the mass market in overclocking (see MSI's stance on it).
The problem of course is how many of these cards are returned (see BFG). You may well sell more, but giving people free reign to blow them up and send them back isn't really good for business. It also doesn't make you look very good (see the 280 and 260 failures/baked cards).
Ah, here we go.
Proof if ever it was needed that the card is merely hiding the truth. Forgive me if I am wrong (could well be !) but those temps using the auto fan (driver controlled) are only around 8c less than the 480. And given that the temps of the 480 were utterly unacceptable.. Well... I hope people can get my opinion now.
All they seem to have done is used a few crafty tricks to hide the problems with Fermi. Also remember I am a fermi owner !
And *this* is why I was so desperately awaiting the review HERE. Because let's be honest, who has seen temps like that in any other review on the internet?
Pray tell guys... Was that temps taken with the card in a day to day PC or on a testbed?
Runebeard
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Lol I see where you're coming from man.
You do have to remember though, as you said yourself, these are the temps with a driver controlled fan. Even on Vantage, the fan wasn't very audible in videos and that was on an open test bench. Clearly, it was set to keep noise down rather than temps! I reckon if you put it in a case to cut down the noise somewhat and upped the fan speed profile to a more reasonable level, you'd be able to get those load temps nearer the 80*C mark or even lower depending on the stress test at hand.
delusion77
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Its an impressive card! But i wouldnt call it a 580. its more of a 485. Just nvidia doing what they do with their weird naming i guess.
Before any1 goes out and buys this, wait till ati has the 6970s out so the prices will drop!
Before any1 goes out and buys this, wait till ati has the 6970s out so the prices will drop!
alienware
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Just imagine what this card could do though with a proper banging cooler on it? Without needing a wattage throttle?
Obviously it's going to be cool and quiet. Obviously the new cooler (even though it looks as Joke removed as it may be offensive to some.) is better but if this thing was truly unleashed it would be worthy of the name 580.
It just feels to me like a bit of a skank. Underneath all of the cooler and quieter malarky is the reason for it. I mean yeah, even as is it's faster than a 480 and quiter and cooler. But if it had a good cooler, more OCing potential and all that it would totally bury a 480.
And I suppose at least then it wouldn't have been "What the 480 should have been" and wouldn't have sounded so patronising to the poor sods who bought 480s
alienware
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£165 plus shipping on OCUK for the cheapest one mate.
I paid £173 three weeks back free shipping
Amazingly though they have opened a portal to the next world of valueage though. SLI 470s will take a flying poo on the 580. Funny how they always seem to undercut themselves
Doubt any one will actually complain though
I paid £173 three weeks back free shipping
Amazingly though they have opened a portal to the next world of valueage though. SLI 470s will take a flying poo on the 580. Funny how they always seem to undercut themselves
Doubt any one will actually complain though
killablade
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For black ops max fps: /com_maxfps 0 @ console lol
Yep, looks like all the cards are capped at 90fps or so on your blackops review. Setting it to max will change both the max and average scores!!
Really surprised that teh gtx480 lighning beats the gtx580 in some of the games. I rally do not understand that as the clocks speeds are so similar??
Runebeard
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It's probably to do with the drivers I'd imagine. The 580 had to use the driver cd it came with, whereas the Lightning can use the new 260.99 drivers, which have probably been better optimised for some games.
delusion77
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Hey u guys see Sparkle computers already has a GTX580 with a 3rd party cooler (Arctic Cooling modle, probably the Accelero Xtreme Plus). they call it the calibre if you want to search it up
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