Nvidia Titan V Specifications - Is it worth $3,000?

Had a bit of a read last night. On paper for gaming it sounds kinda lame tbh.

Then I found this.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23847271?

It came from here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7ikhyp/nvidia_titan_v_fire_strike_benchmarks_oc_non_oc/

I just overclocked my Titan XP by 200mhz and 50mhz on the VRAM.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23855909?

Yeah, not very impressed. However, I did see something on Youtube last night and it made sense. They said (IIRC, don't quote me because I've been busy and my brain is not 100%) that the Tflops of the Titan V were only 13 something. 13000? something like that. On the Xp they are 12 something or 12,000. IIRC this was Single Precision? something like that.

However, with DP enabled the V absolutely slaughters the Xp but only in DP and not many people use that.

I am beginning to suspect that Volta is some form of Pascal with HBM2 and DP enabled. As such you really won't see a massive difference in gaming etc as can be seen from the benchmarks there. My card has another 30 on the boost to add and more on the memory but since swapping out motherboards it kept crashing on those settings so one day I will fiddle some more.

Don't be expecting no 35% though IMO. Nowhere close on gaming and benchmarks, unless they use DP.

Now I know why people keep saying this is not a gaming card. Now more than ever IMO. I know they say that every time a Titan releases but this is the first Titan that does everything apart from gaming. This really would be a terrible buy for that.

Maybe Ampere is running on some sort of GDDR and has some of the DP disabled so it can boost harder. I know the V in the benchmarks there is obviously on air unless he made his own block so I do expect there to be some difference but not that much, given the card does everything games don't want. It's basically Vega IMO. On paper it should kick the world's ass but in what it has to run? yeah, not kick ass at all.

I will wait for more results etc but if that is a Titan V there (and I think it is !) then yeah, I could be right.
 
AlienALX said:
Had a bit of a read last night. On paper for gaming it sounds kinda lame tbh.

Then I found this.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23847271?

It came from here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7ikhyp/nvidia_titan_v_fire_strike_benchmarks_oc_non_oc/

I just overclocked my Titan XP by 200mhz and 50mhz on the VRAM.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23855909?

Yeah, not very impressed. However, I did see something on Youtube last night and it made sense. They said (IIRC, don't quote me because I've been busy and my brain is not 100%) that the Tflops of the Titan V were only 13 something. 13000? something like that. On the Xp they are 12 something or 12,000. IIRC this was Single Precision? something like that.

However, with DP enabled the V absolutely slaughters the Xp but only in DP and not many people use that.

I am beginning to suspect that Volta is some form of Pascal with HBM2 and DP enabled. As such you really won't see a massive difference in gaming etc as can be seen from the benchmarks there. My card has another 30 on the boost to add and more on the memory but since swapping out motherboards it kept crashing on those settings so one day I will fiddle some more.

Don't be expecting no 35% though IMO. Nowhere close on gaming and benchmarks, unless they use DP.

Now I know why people keep saying this is not a gaming card. Now more than ever IMO. I know they say that every time a Titan releases but this is the first Titan that does everything apart from gaming. This really would be a terrible buy for that.

Maybe Ampere is running on some sort of GDDR and has some of the DP disabled so it can boost harder. I know the V in the benchmarks there is obviously on air unless he made his own block so I do expect there to be some difference but not that much, given the card does everything games don't want. It's basically Vega IMO. On paper it should kick the world's ass but in what it has to run? yeah, not kick ass at all.

I will wait for more results etc but if that is a Titan V there (and I think it is !) then yeah, I could be right.
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The performance is rubbish in the Firestrike link you posted, an overclocked Titan Xp on air is good for a graphics score of between 32k and 33k. I have also just spotted a beginners mistake with what the guy was doing, he has the CPU clocked @4.0 which is way too low for Firestrike standard as it will bottleneck the GPU.

Having said that performance does not look that good for the Volta card but we will know better when we see some Firestrike Ultra or Timespy Extreme scores where it is a lot harder to bottleneck the GPU.
 
Kaapstad said:
The performance is rubbish in the Firestrike link you posted, an overclocked Titan Xp on air is good for a graphics score of between 32k and 33k. I have also just spotted a beginners mistake with what the guy was doing, he has the CPU clocked @4.0 which is way too low for Firestrike standard as it will bottleneck the GPU.

Having said that performance does not look that good for the Volta card but we will know better when we see some Firestrike Ultra or Timespy Extreme scores where it is a lot harder to bottleneck the GPU.
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Yeah I am running 14/28 he is running 4/8. That's gonna hurt the overall score tbh. Physics and combined do like some cores.

However on paper it is only 12% higher on this sort of crap than the XP. Only around 7% higher than the Xp, if that.

It's DP this card smashes tbh. Will be interested to see more benchmarks but yeah for gaming this could possibly be the biggest waste of money ever.
 
How come I've had comments on this site and also on Facebook pointing out that the Titan V is for machine learning and not gaming deleted - are you more interested in turning your news articles into feeding-frenzies than allowing people to point out the futility of their arguments?
 
AlienALX said:
Yeah I am running 14/28 he is running 4/8. That's gonna hurt the overall score tbh. Physics and combined do like some cores.

However on paper it is only 12% higher on this sort of crap than the XP. Only around 7% higher than the Xp, if that.

It's DP this card smashes tbh. Will be interested to see more benchmarks but yeah for gaming this could possibly be the biggest waste of money ever.
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My little brother got one expecting big gains over his Xp Star Wars cards, He was a little disappointed to say the least when he'd finished benching his, I did tell him quite a few times but it went in 1 ear and out the other, Fanboys never listen ^_^
 
Dicehunter said:
My little brother got one expecting big gains over his Xp Star Wars cards, He was a little disappointed to say the least when he'd finished benching his, I did tell him quite a few times but it went in 1 ear and out the other, Fanboys never listen ^_^
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Wow was it that bad? what sort of gains did he see dude?
 
AlienALX said:
Wow was it that bad? what sort of gains did he see dude?
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In some games it was something along the lines of 10FPS at 1440P over his Titan Xp star Wars card but it started to go downhill pretty fast, For £1500 on top of the price of a Titan Xp I'd expect immense gains but then again anyone buying this solely for gaming is going to be disappointed for the price.

I haven't gotten all of the details so in some games the gains may be bigger but I wouldn't count on it.
 
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Considering the fact it's almost a whole 1060 on top of a ti and a newer generation architecture I am very much of the opinion it's far faster than Nvidia are leading it to be. Drivers. That's all I'm gonna say. They care more about reliability than raw performance with this card.
 
SPS said:
Are you referring to this post?
https://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=965747#post965747
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Without turning this into a 10,000 essay I gather you are having a pop at me, yes?

Async is not important yet. If it was, and was being used, Vega would be miles better than it is.

As for Volta being for anything else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hEhuCaf-X8

Deep learning, deep learning etc etc etc. Powers the world's largest super computers waffle waffle drone drone. Watch the whole video and you tell me once where it even touches on the subject of gaming.

If I have gotten that wrong then please, accept my apologies. I don't know if you saw my post elsewhere, but right now I am having a really bad time with some anti depressants and my shrink has buggered off until February.
 
AlienALX said:
Without turning this into a 10,000 essay I gather you are having a pop at me, yes?

Async is not important yet. If it was, and was being used, Vega would be miles better than it is.

As for Volta being for anything else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hEhuCaf-X8

Deep learning, deep learning etc etc etc. Powers the world's largest super computers waffle waffle drone drone. Watch the whole video and you tell me once where it even touches on the subject of gaming.

If I have gotten that wrong then please, accept my apologies. I don't know if you saw my post elsewhere, but right now I am having a really bad time with some anti depressants and my shrink has buggered off until February.
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No Chopper3 was asking where his post had gone, was seeing if he meant this one posted in a different thread.

My post quoting you in that thread was just asking if when you said async, you were referring to async compute or not.

I will say though that async compute is used a lot on console :)
 
SPS said:
No Chopper3 was asking where his post had gone, was seeing if he meant this one posted in a different thread.

My post quoting you in that thread was just asking if when you said async, you were referring to async compute or not.

I will say though that async compute is used a lot on console :)
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It's getting there yes. Just very slowly. I mean it has to really, consoles are AMD and AMD are relying on it. It was compute I was referring to yes (I think, without spending an hour watching mind numbing videos lol). If we had full support now Vega would be a whole different beast. Unfortunately I think by the time it is it will lack, like the Fury X (not enough VRAM etc). I'm not sure 8gb is going to be enough when devs have 12gb cards... We'll see though I guess :)
 
AlienALX said:
It's getting there yes. Just very slowly. I mean it has to really, consoles are AMD and AMD are relying on it. It was compute I was referring to yes (I think, without spending an hour watching mind numbing videos lol). If we had full support now Vega would be a whole different beast. Unfortunately I think by the time it is it will lack, like the Fury X (not enough VRAM etc). I'm not sure 8gb is going to be enough when devs have 12gb cards... We'll see though I guess :)
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Problem with async compute and PC GPUs is that you don't have the consistency of hardware (unlike a console) to balance the workload. It's very trial and error. For the PC I agree that async is not essential as it can just be brute forced. On console where form-factor/thermal/power/cost is more of a concern then it's a bit different.
 
SPS said:
Problem with async compute and PC GPUs is that you don't have the consistency of hardware (unlike a console) to balance the workload. It's very trial and error. For the PC I agree that async is not essential as it can just be brute forced. On console where form-factor/thermal/power/cost is more of a concern then it's a bit different.
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For sure. I think tbh Nvidia realised that eventually they would need something strong in Async, hence Volta. But we don't need it yet.. Well, not for gaming any way :) I think they will basically stall it for as long as they can and keep releasing gaming cards first, then they have it there if it ever does become a real thing.
 
So basically it is about level stock as a overclocked Xp then. Your score will be massive because of the CPU you have.
 
SPS said:
Problem with async compute and PC GPUs is that you don't have the consistency of hardware (unlike a console) to balance the workload. It's very trial and error. For the PC I agree that async is not essential as it can just be brute forced. On console where form-factor/thermal/power/cost is more of a concern then it's a bit different.
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Since you have experience, is Async Compute a very important part of the current console optimization process? Or is it just a nice feature to have so most people use it simply because all current consoles support it equally?
 
NeverBackDown said:
Since you have experience, is Async Compute a very important part of the current console optimization process? Or is it just a nice feature to have so most people use it simply because all current consoles support it equally?
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Well the only benefit of using it is for optimisation, or to fit a feature in for "free" that wouldn't have been able to have. Some engines make good use of it, others won't benefit as much.
 
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