Nvidia or AMD?
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the price of MSI because i'm going for msi mobo
2 x 650ti boost = 2x171.22 = 342.44
http://azerty.nl/8-4360-615929/msi-n650ti-tf-2gd5-oc-be.html
2 x 660 = 2x186.90 = 373.80
http://azerty.nl/8-4360-554020/msi-n660-tf-2gd5-oc-grafisch.html
price of the 7970 that has only 1 cooler.. is 381.14
http://azerty.nl/8-3921-481325/msi-r7970-2pmd3gd5-oc.html
the one with twin frozr the boost edition is 492.69
http://azerty.nl/8-3921-570650/msi-r7970-lightning-boost-editio.html
maybe the one 7970 is good but i don't like the view of it and i cant find an other from msi on that website atm
so i'm thinking of getting 2 x 660
will give me more power then 2x650 and it will beat 1x 680
but then indd i can't upgrade and need to buy new once again
but then my budget between 340-380 euro will be gone also
the thing is 1 msi gtx 680 costs 460 euro.
but i'm using this gpu for 4 years now so i don't think ill buy a new 680 in 4 years just to get my pc better again i guess i would get the new series again when i upgrade don't you? so for 374 ill just could go for 2 x 660 and beat the 1x680 or 7970 and upgrade when my gpu don't allow me to play games again
like it did with crysis 3^^
2 x 650ti boost = 2x171.22 = 342.44
http://azerty.nl/8-4360-615929/msi-n650ti-tf-2gd5-oc-be.html
2 x 660 = 2x186.90 = 373.80
http://azerty.nl/8-4360-554020/msi-n660-tf-2gd5-oc-grafisch.html
price of the 7970 that has only 1 cooler.. is 381.14
http://azerty.nl/8-3921-481325/msi-r7970-2pmd3gd5-oc.html
the one with twin frozr the boost edition is 492.69
http://azerty.nl/8-3921-570650/msi-r7970-lightning-boost-editio.html
maybe the one 7970 is good but i don't like the view of it and i cant find an other from msi on that website atm
so i'm thinking of getting 2 x 660
will give me more power then 2x650 and it will beat 1x 680
but then indd i can't upgrade and need to buy new once again
but then my budget between 340-380 euro will be gone also
the thing is 1 msi gtx 680 costs 460 euro.
but i'm using this gpu for 4 years now so i don't think ill buy a new 680 in 4 years just to get my pc better again i guess i would get the new series again when i upgrade don't you? so for 374 ill just could go for 2 x 660 and beat the 1x680 or 7970 and upgrade when my gpu don't allow me to play games again
like it did with crysis 3^^NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
A 7970>650ti boost sli.. Sure they may perform very close... Until the MSAA gets kicked up and the res goes above 1200p.. Easy choice really plus you could OC the 7970 farther then the other 2
Look for a twinFrozr 3. The boost edition is not worth the money
Look for a twinFrozr 3. The boost edition is not worth the money
seumasbeathan
Banned
You do know that just because you are getting an MSI mobo, it doesn't mean you need an MSI graphics card right?
Here is an XFX 7970, cheaper than the 2 650's http://azerty.nl/0-3921-474459/xfx-radeon-hd-7970-dd-edition-g.html
Here is an XFX 7970, cheaper than the 2 650's http://azerty.nl/0-3921-474459/xfx-radeon-hd-7970-dd-edition-g.html
alienware
Banned
660 SLI would be my choice but of course it's entirely up to you
I read a review where the 660s came close to a 690 in certain tests.
TBH? the closest you are going to get to Crysis 3 with acceptable FPS at high detail levels will be the most powerful solution you're picking from. No single card other than Titan can max it out and it definitely works properly in SLI.
If you're going to go with one card I would get a 670 so you can SLI it later. I'm not against the 7970 idea at all but with the way things stand with Crossfire atm adding a second card is a bit pointless.
I read a review where the 660s came close to a 690 in certain tests.
TBH? the closest you are going to get to Crysis 3 with acceptable FPS at high detail levels will be the most powerful solution you're picking from. No single card other than Titan can max it out and it definitely works properly in SLI.
If you're going to go with one card I would get a 670 so you can SLI it later. I'm not against the 7970 idea at all but with the way things stand with Crossfire atm adding a second card is a bit pointless.
seumasbeathan
Banned
670 wouldn't be a bad choice but seeing as it is a good 50 euro more than a 7970, yet isn't as good and doesn't overclock as well I would still recommend the 7970. I don't get what Alien is saying tbh, I know people with 2 7970's and they find crossfire to work just fine.
alienware
Banned
Did you read about runt and dropped frames?
Crossfire only works in about 50% of the games it has been tested in. The others are all pretty much running one card and getting false FPS readings from FRAPS.
No one knows how long this has been going on for (false readings) but right now unless they can sort it Crossfire isn't worth touching with a barge pole. You may be recording the right sort of FPS counts but you certainly aren't seeing them on your monitor.
SieB
New member
By the time you need a new card, the Nvidia 7xx and AMD 8xxx series will be out, or depending on how long you keep your new one, the Nvidia 8xx and AMD 9xxx series.
Why not just get a 7970 or a 670? 7970 is the better card and cheaper.
Instead of adding another one, which by that time you would need to, there most likely wont be any problems with crossfire.
Not that there are any "major" problems with it now (prove me wrong), just sell whatever card you buy now and buy the best performing single card of the next gen, instead of just getting another card of the same gen to go SLI/Crossfire.
Why not just get a 7970 or a 670? 7970 is the better card and cheaper.
Instead of adding another one, which by that time you would need to, there most likely wont be any problems with crossfire.
Not that there are any "major" problems with it now (prove me wrong), just sell whatever card you buy now and buy the best performing single card of the next gen, instead of just getting another card of the same gen to go SLI/Crossfire.
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i do know i don't need to go for msi because i have a msi mobo but i don't wanna go for asus atm because of the costumer service and the very high prices lately and i don't find a good gigabyte one and i wanna get from a brand i know.
and if i read there allot problems with amd cards the last few pages so i think i'm going to stay @ 2x660.
also i like this one
http://azerty.nl/8-4360-509373/msi-n680gtx-twin-frozr-2gd5-oc.html
but then again i'm adding from my 373.80 euro for the 2 x 660 ill add 75 euro to get the card € 448,90 dunno if that would be worth it if you know ther will be a new card out until ill get new once again so i think i would go for 7 series or whatever then will be out like in 2/3 years..
but i don't wanna go for asus atm because of the costumer service and the very high prices lately and i don't find a good gigabyte one and i wanna get from a brand i know.and if i read there allot problems with amd cards the last few pages
so i think i'm going to stay @ 2x660.also i like this one
http://azerty.nl/8-4360-509373/msi-n680gtx-twin-frozr-2gd5-oc.html
but then again i'm adding from my 373.80 euro for the 2 x 660 ill add 75 euro to get the card € 448,90 dunno if that would be worth it if you know ther will be a new card out until ill get new once again so i think i would go for 7 series or whatever then will be out
like in 2/3 years..
seumasbeathan
Banned
Dude, if you are going to get a single card, get the 7970, not the 680, 7970 is better, cheaper and overclocks better
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i'm not getting single card i'm getting feedback
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with all you guys who thing your everything jees...
2x660 beat 1 7970 indd if i would put a second one from those 7970's in it my 2 x 660 would be nothing.. but how long could i do with those 2 x 660's?
4 years? i'm doing 4 years with this gtx 275 and i still can run bf3 and own the game with 69/1...
when i done my 4 years my card's will suck like the one i have now but new,better,faster cards will be out again.. i can't update every month.. if you pay for me i will
i found 1 7970 i like and is not above 400 euro
http://azerty.nl/8-3921-482843/gigabyte-gv-r797oc-3gd-grafi.html
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with all you guys who thing your everything jees...
2x660 beat 1 7970 indd if i would put a second one from those 7970's in it my 2 x 660 would be nothing.. but how long could i do with those 2 x 660's?
4 years? i'm doing 4 years with this gtx 275 and i still can run bf3 and own the game with 69/1...
when i done my 4 years my card's will suck like the one i have now but new,better,faster cards will be out again.. i can't update every month.. if you pay for me i will
i found 1 7970 i like and is not above 400 euro
http://azerty.nl/8-3921-482843/gigabyte-gv-r797oc-3gd-grafi.html
Roooker
New member
Me personaly i would get the Gigabyte 7970. It is not loud and will run extremely well. Also the better bang for the buck then any nvidea card.
But keep in mind if you might add another video card later do NOT buy AMD atm. If there is a tiny chance you consider sli/xfire get any nvidea.
But keep in mind if you might add another video card later do NOT buy AMD atm. If there is a tiny chance you consider sli/xfire get any nvidea.
alienware
Banned
No solution will last you four years not even Titan. Not if you want to keep settings as high as they'll go. Right now you can't even buy a single card other than Titan that can take care of Crysis 3 or even Tomb Raider with everything maxed out. I see min FPS of 29 with Tomb Raider and I am running 670s in SLI. Now granted there will probably be an update but at the last time of checking even a overclocked 7970 got a min of 12 FPS with everything maxed with Tress FX enabled..
Things are set to improve when it comes to optmisation though but I can't see how any GPU could ever last for four years. If you cast your mind back four years and then look at what you had (8800 GTX) then even 8800 GTX SLI would not handle hardly any of the new games with settings reasonably high.
I would say you're lucky to get a year these days even with top end cards like the 7970 and 680. Thankfully all new engine changes seem to have happened and 680/7970 has survived the onslaught of the newer heavier engines (C3 FC3 etc).
well i have luck
this is from this forum
Nvidia Pushes Back GTX 275 Release
"Nvidia seems to have bowed out of the head-to-head card release matchup."
Published: 26th March 2009
Nvidia were set to have a head-to-head release of cards, the HD 4890 and the GTX 275, on April 6th. While the launch date remains the same on Nvidia's side, the actual release date has been pushed back a week to April 13th 2009
so ill gonna need to make up my mind
1 card or sli
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and i'm more in for SLI so ill follow the good nvidia posts here
this is from this forum
Nvidia Pushes Back GTX 275 Release
"Nvidia seems to have bowed out of the head-to-head card release matchup."
Published: 26th March 2009
Nvidia were set to have a head-to-head release of cards, the HD 4890 and the GTX 275, on April 6th. While the launch date remains the same on Nvidia's side, the actual release date has been pushed back a week to April 13th 2009
so ill gonna need to make up my mind
1 card or sli
EDIT
and i'm more in for SLI so ill follow the good nvidia posts here
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NRG!
New member
650tiB SLI benefits:
*tumbleweed*
7950/7970/670/680 single card benefits:
-less noise
-less heat
-seamless gaming experience, no dicking around
-higher resale value
SLI can be fucking annoying when games randomly update via steam and SLI balls the game up (l4d2 a few months back for example).
*tumbleweed*
7950/7970/670/680 single card benefits:
-less noise
-less heat
-seamless gaming experience, no dicking around
-higher resale value
SLI can be fucking annoying when games randomly update via steam and SLI balls the game up (l4d2 a few months back for example).
alienware
Banned
AMD cards utitlise their vram differently though. I used to see 1.7gb used when playing BF3 on my 6970 yet only 1.4gb being used on my GTX 480.
I also ran into a strange issue with 670 SLI running 8xmsaa on NFS : Shift. I was running out of physical memory (4gb at the time) yet as soon as I added another 8gb the error messages disappeared.
I *think* Nvidia cards allocate physical ram for MSAA settings which would explain why AMD cards show higher usage.
