Nvidia 8800GT

[ScottY_]

After nearly half a year of speculation about new high end Nvidia cards, the 8800GT has appeared whilst not high end it will be replacing the lower end GTS (320MB)

From some of the reviews it contends with the GTX thanks to its 112 shaders, only 16 behind the GTX. It has a faster pixel and texture fill rate too. Its clock, shader and memory speed are equal or higher than the GTX and it's a 65nm core not 90nm as all other Nvidia cards to date are, resulting is less heat so higher clock speeds.

It is one of the first cards to be classed as a PCI-E 2.0 card, giving more bandwidth to the cards.

It is expected to be released late October early November.

This is not Nvidias new high end card that's rumoured to be the G92 core whilst this is the G96. It is still part of the 8-series cards.

The card on Foxconn's site

The card is not yet listed on Nvidia's site.

 

[Brooksie]

http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php...9800_picture_and_8800gts_640mb_developments/1

Something about the 8800gt in there

 

[ScottY_]

That has no info or anything on the GT though.

 

[Rastalovich]

The card on Foxconn's site

Seems like they just yanked the info. All comes up with empty fields for me.

 

[Mr. Smith]

It only has a 256 mem interface though... From what I have read:

The 8800GT beats the current 8800GTS, both flavours (320/640).

The new 8800GTS beats the old GTX.

So the new GTX = pwnage!

I need the new GTX/GTS to power games at 1920x1600 res. Damn monitor!Personally I'm waiting for ATi to answer, then pick up the better of the two

 

[Rastalovich]

Wish people would get a freakin move on. W8ing for Intel on their cpu, w8ing on nVidia on their cards, w8ing for AMD with their cpus, w8ing on US suppliers to stock Abit iX38s..

W8ing ! This Oct/Nov is about to turn into Nov, and it better flooping not turn into Nov/Dec !

Fudge!

 

[Hatman]

Their G96 is just a mistake, its definatly G92.

The new GTS wont be 65nm but itll have 12more SP's.

Its assumed teh 8800gt will have less rops/texture units then the 8800gts, but theres also the memory and the 320bit vs 256bit fight aswell.

8800gt wont be as good as the new 8800gts.

 

[Rastalovich]

Their G96 is just a mistake, its definatly G92.

The new GTS wont be 65nm but itll have 12more SP's.

Its assumed teh 8800gt will have less rops/texture units then the 8800gts, but theres also the memory and the 320bit vs 256bit fight aswell.

8800gt wont be as good as the new 8800gts.

Where was it I saw the 8800GT shoot it`s load over all the present 8800 cards, include gtx/ultra, @ 3dmark06 ? By a good 5/6/7k we`re talking.

Might`ve been speculative lies tho, see alot of them about in todays market, especially from 2bit sources. Best thing I seen close to actual troof tho lol

 

[FarFarAway]

The 8800GT won't beat the 8800GTX or Ultra by that much as it has less shaders. It does do some stuff faster though

 

[Hatman]

Supposedly, the 8800gt will outperform the current 640mb and 320mb 8800gts, at a MUCH lower cost. All reports I've seen say its got 112SP's, but none of it is confirmed by nvidia or any of their partners.

Therefore nvidia are releasing a new model of the 8800GTS, with 640mb version only, but with 112SP's. Still 90nm.

Even though they'll both have 112sp's, the GTS has other advantages such as 320bit over 256bit, 640mb of memory over 512mb, and probably more ROP's and texture units.

None of that is confirmed by anyone official, but several different sites have "tested" their cards and come up with similar but different benchmarks results on 3dmark06.

Don't believe anything that puts this card over the GTX/Ultra, it wont beat them. The 8800GTS as it is is being phased out and ceasing production, the 8800gtx is going on though.

Supposedly its going on until a 65nm DUAL 8800gt card comes out next year, a GX2 style card. 8800gt will be closer to a GTX then the 8800gts atm so it'll be a nice improvement over an ultra.

Then again none of that in confirmed

Ill try find some links.

 

[PP Mguire]

Guys they dont use the G** code scheme anymore like ive mentioned before.

 

[Hatman]

Yes they do, D8P is just a section, and under that section is g92 aka 8800gt.

 

[Hatman]

"Corfirmed" Stats.

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http://geforce9.com/index.html

According to that, 112SPU's, and it sais 16texture units, which was as predicted.

The theory is taht this card is a die shrink of the G80 with a few extras, so when they went from 8800gtx to 8800gts, and disabled some of the bus rate, it also disables some rops/tu's. Same with this. Its backed down from 320bit to 256bit, so like the 8800gtx to 8800gts, this card will lose 8tu's and 4rops, which puts it at 16TU's and 16ROPS.

112SP's seems the only sensible thing to do for it and everywhere seems to "confirm" that.

SO the final specs of the card seem to be.

65nm

Single-Slot Cooling

112SPU's

16 TextureUnits

16 Rops

Core Clock 600mhz

Shader Cloc 1500mhz

Memory Clock 1800mhz

So it definatly wont beat the GTX or the ultra, however it COULD do better then the 8800gts in SOME things.

These specs arent confirmed by anything official they are what I put together on what seems the most likely scenario based on the news at the moment.

 

[tuco]

On paper, it appears more powerful than the 8800GTS, with more shaders and a higher clock. In practice, that will be determined. The real question is, what will it cost?

 

[Hatman]

Since the 8800gts320 is being pretty much scrapped, I think thats a good indication

Probably around £150 - £200 or $250 - $350.

I just don 't know how the 320bit to 256bit and 8less TMU's and 4less ROPS will affect it. If r600 has taught us anything its tons of shaders dont exactly help if the rest lets it down. Itll have same TU's and ROP's as r600..

 

[Rastalovich]

Think we also have to bare in mind that, straight out of the box, this card will be using the same drivers the existing 8800 cards will be using.

I would have imagined that if the gpu is upped, that a newer revision of drivers to come would probably give the newer released cards that bit more life. (and of course, with the usual nVidia spirit, cause problems for existing 8800 owners )

 

[tuco]

I just don 't know how the 320bit to 256bit and 8less TMU's and 4less ROPS will affect it. If r600 has taught us anything its tons of shaders dont exactly help if the rest lets it down.

Tons of shaders alone may not spell out performance, but this case, it is augmenting an already successful design. The clock speed bump will put it at 100 MHz above the 8800GTS, and more shaders of the same architecture is like adding cores and overclocking it. On paper, that on its own should increase the performance noticeably. About the 320 bit to 256 bit memory architecture, I have no idea how much that will affect performance.

 

[FarFarAway]

Think we also have to bare in mind that, straight out of the box, this card will be using the same drivers the existing 8800 cards will be using.

They usually supply a mod of the existing drivers, or some beta's for 1st run models

I would have imagined that if the gpu is upped, that a newer revision of drivers to come would probably give the newer released cards that bit more life. (and of course, with the usual nVidia spirit, cause problems for existing 8800 owners )

tbh Nvidia drivers arre pretty solid, for the most part

 

[mrapoc]

compared to ATI anyhow lol

 

[Rastalovich]

They usually supply a mod of the existing drivers, or some beta's for 1st run models

Yeah, take a number of months of eagerly scanning rss feeds for latest driver releases in anticipation >.<

tbh Nvidia drivers arre pretty solid, for the most part

That`s not the experience I`ve had. Newest drivers are hardly ever the best choice for previous generations of card. The better drivers for the card u own are more often ones that were out just b4 the newer generation came out.

I`d not recommend any1 to use anything above 94.xx on a 7xxxx for example. Sure u can get away with it, each time I`ve tried anything much higher they`ve been pretty poor - even just opening control menus.