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WeskerPG

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Hello Again.

I'm building a new PC, i want to OC it and my budget is about 1500 usd - 2000 usd, i need you guys to recommend me what can i buy from a specific website, sadly I live in Mexico and the pieces here are way to expensive i rather pay a shipment, I'm sure about the case I want is this one :


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7693065&sku=N500-1146

There's no need to post the rest of the things i wanted to buy because i rather have your opinions on the matter, and if you know a website on U.S.A. that also ship's pieces to Mexico, thanks for posting it and helping me.

Now mostly I work with blender, and rendering is definitely a priority to me, I want something smooth and fast, either if is OC, or regular build with optional OC

I want water cooling, however it seems I'm not going to be able to get anything in Mexico if something goes wrong, well even FAN's with LEDS are hard to get here....


If anyone of you guys could please drive me into the right direction with this site http://www.tigerdirect.com/ ill appreciate it, and you will be the first to check my new PC ;)
 
Hi WeskerPG and welcome to the OC3D forums,
Is tigerdirect the only site that will ship to Mexico?
I'm not sure if newegg.com or amazon.com will ship there or not but check them out for a price comparison.
Have you decided on a motherboard or socket type yet ? For that budget I recommend an Intel socket 1155 , 3570k or 3770k .
What color scheme do you want ? I think red and black would look good in that case . How many video cards are you planning on , 1 or 2 ?
I think we need a little more info on what exactly you want.
I know there are some here that could steer you in the right direction.
 
i know you are settled on the phantom, but since you want to watercool your parts you should reconsider that and maybe take a look at the switch 810.
Your priority is rendering etc, so you should consider a 2011 cpu, the 3930k would be my recommendation. I guess you work with adobe products as well so put a GTX670 (preferably with 680 board like the EVGA FTW) or wait for the 700 series, it is rumored that it might even release next month. it won't be much of a change, but why not take the extra 10-20% boost if you can get it for free.
put some fast RAM in as well, unfortunately the prizes blew up in the past months, i am not sure how much the vengeance ram is in dollars but i guess you can find a decent 16GB kit for around 100$, get RAM rated at a high frequency (1866/2133), it's nice to have the headroom when overclocking.
Also consider an SSD, those things speed up rendering a lot, but they are expensive. you would need at least a 250GB SSD.
i probably forgot a few things, might add that later.
 
Hi WeskerPG, and welcome to the forums.

For rendering, depending on what software you will be running, a hexacore might actually be
of good use (Anandtech 3770k vs 3930k). I would definitely recommend at least a 3770k. A
2011 would allow you to get more RAM if you really need a lot of it (max. for the 3770k is
32 GB afaik).

I have to agree with SeekaX on the case, for watercooling I would definitely recommend looking
at the Switch 810 over the Phantom.

If you go for LGA2011 I would recommend a M/B from Asus' range, which one will mostly depend
on how much you can spend on it. The Rampage IV Extreme is certainly good, but it's also
very expensive. You might want to have a look at the Rampage IV Formula, or one of the
versions of the Asus P9X79 (vanilla, Pro, Deluxe) models.

If you'd prefer to go the 3770k route, I can recommend the MSI Mpower. Great overclocker
for a great price. Alternatively, the MSI Z77A-GD65 is also very good and has two more SATA
ports, if that's important to you.

PSU: Corsair AX760, or something stronger if you want headroom for future upgrades.

Where I live, the 3930k + M/B would already run you from somewhere between 800 USD and
1000 USD, and if you need a decent GPU (see SeekaX' advice) you will already get quite
close to the 2000 USD mark when factoring in the case, PSU, RAM etc. I doubt you'd be
able to fit in a water cooling loop into that budget (Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220, possibly).

If you really want a proper water cooling loop, a 2011 rig might get tight on that budget, and
a 3770k might be the more reasonable option. Whether you prioritize the hardware or the
cooling is up to you of course.

EDIT: What are your storage requirements? I would definitely recommend something
like a Samsung 840, at least 120 GB, probably rather 240 GB for programs and systems,
but do you need additional HDD's?
 
newegg case goes for 170 usd
tigerdirect goes for 150 usd

The Pc i need to build is mostly to render, i dont need extra hard drives, because my work wont be saved on my PC anyways, it will be recorded on a dvd or blue ray and then deleted, or i can just let it be in the Hard drive, the reason is simple, i do not save alot of things, back in the day we saved files, movies, stupid hack tools that didnt do shit but fucking your ram, mp3 songs, and beyond.

Today the miracle of online streaming made the hard drive "imposible too fill" at least for me, i listen to classic rock radios on winamp, check online movies as every1 else on movie2k.to and youtube, and anime and so on.

I really dont see a reason to buy extra space, but if you guys believe i need extra space for this task to perfom, ill do so, however im going to need a bit of an example of why whould it be faster with more.

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The Case

Well swich 810 is a bit more expensive, but i liked it.

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The hardware

Yes i thought about the 1155 socket for intel 3rd gen i7, but thats why im posting here, you guys know way better than i, what should i buy with that budget, you know more hardware brands and ofcourse performance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im going to buy 4 rams (i supose thats the limit of rams)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7487099&CatId=4534

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&CatId=4534

the 4gb or 8 gb, however i wont be able to buy 4 rams of 8 gb, with that budget, i could probably buy 4 of 4 so its 16 gb or ram, and a few months later upgrade them to 4x8 32gb ram, or just buy 2 of 8 gb, its pretty much the same thing, as long as i start with 16 gb

What i am i bit confused, is the number of PINs i never really counted any PINs in the ram when i go to buy, usually i order a type of ram PCI so idk if that mother board has to be special or if thats just an stupid question on my part.

i see alot of people on this forum likes the military class

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=military+class

theres 3 mother boards with that name
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2332616&CatId=6976
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5046667&CatId=6976
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7983434&CatId=6976

all of them have an OC tag, and 1155 socket, i dont know about the performance but seems to be a peoples choise around this forum, that and crossair.

i also thought about buying the GPU 670 but seems 680 sli is a bit better, however my mind will change depending on how much will i need, if im going to buy 2, i rather have 2x 670
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some more stupid questions from me

can i OC without water cooling and what are the risks if so.
im trying too OC because my rendering sucked, will this pc perform well without OC

any1 knows a website where they have "water cooling KITS" and they ship international
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this will be my very first attempt to OC, so i would rather have you guys tell me exactly what should i buy as a begginer and low budget (considering i live in mexico, my pc is going to be super expensive, and as you guys may feel, i dont think it will be enought LOL)


pardon my english


Edit : also im aiming for a SSD of 120 gb but 60 should be enought if i need to spend more on anything else


also why do mother boards have a combo port until this day...... some1 stick into the 1990
 
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The Pc i need to build is mostly to render, i dont need extra hard drives, because my work wont be saved on my PC anyways

If you don't need it, that's ok, I was just asking ;)

Anyway, I'm not very familiar with rendering software (let alone current Windows versions),
but from what I've seen other people recommend 240 GB seems to be reasonable for a
Windows PC with some storage-hungry applications. However, since you've stated wanting
to go for 120 GB, let's take that.

The Samsung 840 SSD's are pretty good, as are Corsair Neutrons.

So, lets say a Samsung for 139.99 USD

Well swich 810 is a bit more expensive, but i liked it.

It's a really good case, if you haven't checked out TTL's video on it yet, you should definitely
do that. It's not exactly cheap, but it's not expensive for what it offers.

So, the 810 adds another 149.99 USD



Yes, socket 1155 has a maximum limit of 4 dimms in dual channel mode (so, two dimms
for each channel). For optimal performance, you need at least two RAM modules, so the
2 x 8 GB is a good choice as a starting point. However, you might want to go for a higher
clocked version, but I'm not really up to speed on how high makes sense for Ivy Bridge.

2 x 8 GB for 132.14 USD

Regarding performance: I don't have an LGA2011 rig, but from what I've read rendering is one
of the few disciplines where you can actually profit from the LGA2011's quad channel
memory architecture and the two additional cores on the CPU.

So, let's say, alternatively for a 2011 rig: 4 x 4 GB for 140.76

What i am i bit confused, is the number of PINs i never really counted any PINs in the ram when i go to buy, usually i order a type of ram PCI so idk if that mother board has to be special or if thats just an stupid question on my part.

Desktop RAM dimm's have 240 pins for DDR3 modules. There's laptop ones that have
204 pins but that's not relevant here.



Out of those four I would probably recommend the GD45.

If you go for 2011 however, maybe something like the Asus P9X79 Pro would be feasible (314.99).
It's not the best 2011 board, but from the reviews I've read it's a very decent performer
and doesn't cost quite as much as a Rampage IV or something like that. Alternatively,
the X79 Sabertooth is not much more expensive (334.95 USD)

i also thought about buying the GPU 670 but seems 680 sli is a bit better, however my mind will change depending on how much will i need, if im going to buy 2, i rather have 2x 670

A 670 can be overclocked to almost the performance of a 680. 2 x 670 would run you
around 800 USD.


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some more stupid questions from me

can i OC without water cooling and what are the risks if so.

Yes you can. The risks are the same as with water cooling (heat death of your components),
you can just push them slightly higher for a lot less noise.

im trying too OC because my rendering sucked, will this pc perform well without OC

If you're not insanely obsessed with low noise, you can omit the water cooling and go for a
good air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14. You can still get quite a good overclock out of your
system with that, but the temps and noise levels will be higher. How much you are willing
to tolerate depends on you.

any1 knows a website where they have "water cooling KITS" and they ship international

I usually get my stuff from Aquatuning, but I don't know about Mexico on that one.

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this will be my very first attempt to OC, so i would rather have you guys tell me exactly what should i buy as a begginer and low budget (considering i live in mexico, my pc is going to be super expensive, and as you guys may feel, i dont think it will be enought LOL)

I don't think 2000 USD is exactly low budget ;)

Anyway, as for the remaining components:


If I've not made a mistake, the 2011 configuration runs up to ~1500 USD, while the 1155 config
will come to ~1000 USD, without GPU's.

So from what I can tell, for ~2000 USD you could
  1. Go for 2011 with one GTX670 and air cooling
  2. Go for 1155 with two GTX670 and something like an H100i
  3. Go for 1155 with one GTX670 and proper water cooling

You can do overclocking without water cooling, people had been overclocking their
systems long before water cooling ever became popular. The big advantage of water
cooling is that it offers equal or better temps for a lot less noise. Although since
you mentioned Mexico where it can get quite a bit hotter than where I live, water cooling
might be more important, but that's tricky for me to judge from here.

Also maybe some of the choices I've made above are not the best ones (I'm no expert
on the current RAM market, so maybe that should be looked at again by somebody
else).

Which one of these setups makes most sense to you depends on how much you
are bothered by noise and your software. If your software can make good use of two
GTX670's (CUDA) it would probably make sense to go for option 2. If your software is
rather CPU dependant, option 1 would probably make more sense. If you're really
bothered by noise or want to overclock the components you have more with better
temps, you would probably like option 3 the best.

I wouldn't go out and order the parts I've just listed, but they should provide a starting
point for further discussion and refinement.
 
correct ill post an update list to check what every1 thinks about it, just missing water cooling, and should i get the

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2827136&Sku=E145-0671

or

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2618312&csid=_61

both of those cards say OC, couldnt really find the tech aspects of the second board


according to your response im going to guess asus is the way to go ? however the asus you posted is not 1155, wich makes me ask my self which 1 should i pick

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...31_174_68338_68338,Detail;31_1245_62593_62593

also what is the most recomended brand, i heard some stuff about intel and gigabyte been the best on motherboards for intel, cant remember exactly why but seems to be something they cant do or perform "cant remember what it was"

also you refered to 2011, is that the fabric date ?
to be honest i dont care when it was made, as long as it suits the porpuse, i7 core, because this will be my PC the next idk 3 years or so ?

also can you add me a list of what do i need to search for water cooling, i have no problems with the sound, it can be an airplane for all i care, but i live with my family and thats by itself anoying LOL, theres no need to add more stress into that relationship



So far :
Cost At The Moment : $1,142.10
Available Budget : $857.9

GPU
E145-0671 ::EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW 02G-P4-2678-KR Video Card - 2GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0, 1x DVI-I, 1x DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort, DirectX 11, Overclocked(2.45 lbs)

RAM
C13-9998 ::Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10B 16GB Desktop Memory Module Kit - DDR3, 2 x 8GB, Dual Channel, 240 Pin, DIMM, 1.5V, PC3-12800, 1600MHz, XMP Ready(0.35 lbs)

SSD
S203-8007 ::Samsung 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 128GB Solid State Drive - 2.5" Form Factor, SATA III, 530 MB/s Read Speed, 390 MB/s Write Speed(0.5 lbs)

Case
N500-2070 ::NZXT Switch 810 CA-SW810-G1 Hybrid Full Tower - ATX, 4x140mm Fan, 4x5.25" Drive Bays, 6x3.5" Drive Bays, 9xExp Slot, Supports Water Cooling, 4 x USB Ports, 2 x Audio Ports, Black(36.95 lbs)

Core
I69-3770K ::Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K)(0.85 lbs)

MotherBoard
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Water Cooling
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Cost At The Moment : $1,142.10
Available Budget : $857.9



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Another dumb question, can i put something in the water to see how it moves, XP just for the sake of it LOL, and consecuances of that
 
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Well you definitely have a nice amount to spend.

CPU: Intel i5 3570k:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

CPU Cooler:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8/16GB (Always upgradeable)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233299

PSU: Seasonic 620W:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095

Radeon HD 7950 - 3GB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

Seagate (500GB, 1TB, 3TB, However much storage you need):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834

SSD: Corsair Neutron GTX:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233398

= Roughly $1300. Allow an extra $100-200 For case and an OS, and you'll have a solid all-round PC.
 
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according to your response im going to guess asus is the way to go ? however the asus you posted is not 1155, wich makes me ask my self which 1 should i pick

[...]

2011... manufacturing date?

[...]

Ah, I see, some further education on the fundamentals of the current market situation is
required.

Basically, Intel currently manufactures consumer CPUs for two sockets: Socket LGA1155
and socket LGA2011.

The LGA1155 CPUs have a maximum of four cores, which can show up as maximum eight
threads in your operating system. Those chips would be the i7 3770 and i7 3770k. Then
there's 1155 CPUs that have four cores and four threads (i5's), but for rendering I would
definitely recommend an i7.

Also, the LGA1155 architecture uses a dual channel memory architecture, meaning you
have (usually) four slots with two slots per channel on a standard sized ATX M/B.

Dual channel memory architecture basically means that the CPU can access two modules
at the same time (in very rough terms) and therefore is faster. Quad core is four modules
etc.

The LGA2011 platform has CPUs available that have up to eight cores and sixteen threads
(the Xeons), however those are ridiculously expensive. But, you can also get six cores/
twelve threads CPUs for socket 2011, namely the 3970x and the 3930k. The 3970x is ~1000USD
and only marginally faster than the 3930k, which costs about 560 USD at tigerdirect. Both
CPUs are unlocked and can be overclocked.
The 2011 socket architecture also operates on a quad channel memory system, meaning
you often have eight DIMM slots with two slots per channel.

An LGA2011 platform system costs significantly more than an 1155 system and will usually not
perform significantly better. The reasons for that are that most software can not really take advantage
of the additional cores of a 3930k and that the current 1155 CPUs (Ivy Bridge architecture) are
slightly more modern in their inner workings. However, there are occasions where the quad
channel memory and the six cores/12 threads as opposed to the four cores/eight threads of
1155 are of advantage, and such an occasion is often rendering.

But in order to be sure about that, you would need to know whether or not your software
can profit from an 2011 system.

The Asus board I suggested was in case you wished to go for a socket 2011 rig over an 1155
one. The MSI suggestions you made for the 1155 version were quite good, I have a similar board
myself and am quite happy with it.

So, basically, there are two possible rigs you can go for: Socket 2011, if whatever software
you will be running can take advantage of those additional two cores of the 3930k, or socket
1155. Additionally, your software might be able to utilize the CUDA cores on an Nvidia
graphics card (which are basically special computing cores that can speed up certain kinds
of calculations and are utilized by some software suites, among them some Adobe programs
afaik, although I haven't tried those personally), which could also make quite a difference in
performance.

So before you go ahead and start picking components, you really need to know what software
you will be running (if you can find that out) and how that software utilizes system resources.
Otherwise it's pretty difficult to give good advice on what components to buy.

The other question you need to ask yourself is if you might be willing to go for more expensive
components and not have water cooling (or only something like a Corsair H100i), or if you
would prefer to have slower components (i.e. cheaper) and get proper water cooling.


Another dumb question, can i put something in the water to see how it moves, XP just for the sake of it LOL, and consecuances of that

For short term demonstration purposes there is Mayhems Aurora, but for long term use I don't
think something like that exists. Search on youtube for "mayhems aurora" to see if that's what
you mean.
 
let me check around it, and ill be back as soon as i find what kind of task it performs, i believe that macromedia does, but idk about blender, and so on, ill keep posted when i get that info ;)

meanwhile ty :)


<if i can manage it with fans, without overlocking or been really careful, i will drop the water cooling asap>

edit : <_< how could i miss the socket 2011, i said it my self it wasnt a 1155 damn <_<
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@lakers
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4

the cute thing about that board is the bundle, but i need to check prices and what i need before, otherwise im going to end up in the same situation but ty that was a nice cheap bundle


@random question
i wonder if free shipping ments free international shipping mmmmmmmmm shakespare answer that <_<



last dilema :

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2406888&CatId=6976
A455-2042_chiclet01_aa_2406888.jpg


or

A455-2038_chiclet01_aa_2406886.jpg

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2406886&CatId=6976


to be honest that ASUS X-MEN looks so damn gorgeous, any has it ?
 
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Not really sure why people are talking about 2011 Socket CPU's..That's obviusly fine and all if you simply want to learn, but if not, buying a CPU that costs 1/2 > 3/4 of your entire budget is simply idiotic. But I do have to give credit to alpenwasser.

Anyways, personally, I'm not one to toot my own horn, although I do enjoy a good horn tooting. Not disagreeing with anyone else, but the rig I linked will perform perfect in all ways for all tasks. Quad Core CPU, sturdy Mobo, decent RAM, solid PSU, powerful GPU, you get the point. And still an available $300-500 For improvements. So within that $500, you could bump up to an i7-3770k which is $330:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
And perhaps if wanted, not really necessary, but you could even upgrade PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

And in response to what you said, at first I didn't even realize that combo offer, I was simply recommending the i5-3570k and that Motherboard because their both decent components. And nobody can argue with a free $60 off.
 
agree with the build you posted, still i want somekind of upgraded pc, i wont upgrade it again in about 3 years or so, and i rather just buy extra rams to be honest, im not so sure about youre build, because i just checked the pieces i didnt really do the budget and remember i have to ship it, so i need to check all of that before considering it, t will take me a day or two.
<my eyes love offers so i cant avoid those signs lol>


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http://www.systemagnostic.com/faqs/


GK104, GK106, GK107 GeForce GTX 690, GTX 680, GTX 670, GTX 660 Ti, GTX 660, GTX 650 Ti, GTX 650, GT 640, GeForce GTX 680MX, GeForce GTX 680M, GeForce GTX 675MX, GeForce GTX 670MX, GTX 660M, GeForce GT 650M, GeForce GT 645M, GeForce GT 640M
GK110 Tesla K20X, K20

so the gtx 670 is fine, same goes for macromedia software,so i guess i should get 2 of these, to really improve the performance ?


omg expanders <_<

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG_Xpander/

NF200-SLI-A3_Chips.jpg


i didnt even knew they exist LOL
 
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I think you need to do some research on video cards.
The numbers you posted above GK104, GK106, GK107 and GK110 are Nvidia video card core processors . And someone with more knowledge than me can correct me , but I'm pretty sure the cards ending in M or MX are for laptops.
But I agree the GTX670 X2 ( or SLI ) should do you just fine.
I'm not sure about the expander boards you posted , I'm not really sure you need them.
Tom did a review on the MSI Z77A-GD45 gaming motherboard , and I think for the money they are a really nice board. Just something to take a look at.
 
I agree with the build you posted, still I want some kind of upgraded PC, I wont upgrade it again in about 3 years or so, and I rather just buy extra rams to be honest, I'm not so sure about you're build, because I just checked the pieces I didn't really do the budget and remember i have to ship it, so I need to check all of that before considering it, it will take me a day or two.
<my eyes love offers so i cant avoid those signs lol>
Forgive me for being a noob here, but I know that Newegg don't ship internationally, and they're based in the U.S, does anyone know if that rule applies here? But anyway.

The components I linked will suffice all your needs and still will for another couple years. And the rig I linked was only around $1300, so considering you had an original budget of $1500-2000, gives you plenty left for shipping and small possible upgrades, which is basically what you're asking for. You won't need more than 16GB's of RAM. 16GB's of Corsair Vengeance will do you perfectly. And I guess another thing to mention is, you don't play games, or at least you didn't mention it in your opening statement, so you could save a little more cash on not having such a high end GPU. A GTX 660Ti / Radeon 7950 would be more than fine.

When recommending a build to someone, in some ways I always get over attached. I don't like to see people get bad recommendations, or knowingly not help when a better build could of been made, etc. Which is why I linked you that build. You'll just have to do some upgrading/downgrading in some areas and prioritize components for the intended use to fit your budget. But whatever you chose I'm sure you can't go too wrong, you can always post in this thread if help is needed.
 
Not really sure why people are talking about 2011 Socket CPU's..That's obviusly fine and all if you simply want to learn, but if not, buying a CPU that costs 1/2 > 3/4 of your entire budget is simply idiotic.

The only reason I mentioned 2011 CPUs is because there does exist software
that can take advantage of more threads, and depending on how important that is to
you, you might want to go for 2011.

But yes, your build is a lot more reasonable than a socket 2011 suggestion.

Two remarks though: Rendering software does have a tendency to profit from more
threads, so I would suggest considering an i7 over the i5, as you proposed in your
post. I have had the previous generation's i5 (2500) and i7 (2600k), and depending
on the software I'm running, the additional threads of the i7 could in fact produce a
significant performance boost (1.5x in some cases, with both CPUs at stock clocks).

I'm not familiar with the M/B, or with Asrock products in detail in general. I recommended
the MSI Z77A GD45 because I personally have the next higher model (the GD65) and
am very happy with it, and other people around here who have the GD45 seem to have
had good experiences with them. The Asrock might be a great board, I just don't know
much about it.

Secondly, about the GPU: Since WeskerPG mentioned Macromedia software and
Macromedia has been acquired by Adobe, and Adobe has quite a few products
that can profit from the Nvidia Cuda cores, I still think a GTX670 is a good choice
(probably). Performance/money for gaming is certainly better with AMD cards at
the moment, at least for the most part, and as long as we're not talking about
CrossfireX. But if you can find an application that can properly utilize those Cuda
cores, Nvidia cards do offer some nice benefits.

And nobody can argue with a free $60 off.

But, but, but I want to pay full price! :lol:


omg expanders <_<

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG_Xpander/

i didnt even knew they exist LOL

Neither did I, but I really doubt that you need one of those. ;)

So, to summarize: It looks like we're heading down the 3770k path? Sounds good.
Certainly a lot less strain on the wallet :lol:
 
yup thanks alot guys, im going to check both setups, both are amazing, and i will get the best of the 2 and post what i decided to do in the next days, i dont know asrock eigther and as any other hardware product, i have to search problems, bugs, leaks and so on, international shippment is a pain........

since i cant just return the hardware i need to take that in my choise, a frabic error will gave me 2 months on the wait list :/

eigther way thank you very much and yeah 3770

i finaly got a good idea of what i need.
 
The only reason I mentioned 2011 CPUs is because there does exist software that can take advantage of more threads, and depending on how important that is to you, you might want to go for 2011.

But yes, your build is a lot more reasonable than a socket 2011 suggestion.

Two remarks though: Rendering software does have a tendency to profit from more threads, so I would suggest considering an i7 over the i5, as you proposed in your post. I have had the previous generation's i5 (2500) and i7 (2600k), and depending on the software I'm running, the additional threads of the i7 could in fact produce a significant performance boost (1.5x in some cases, with both CPUs at stock clocks).

I'm not familiar with the M/B, or with Asrock products in detail in general. I recommended the MSI Z77A GD45 because I personally have the next higher model (the GD65) and am very happy with it, and other people around here who have the GD45 seem to have had good experiences with them. The Asrock might be a great board, I just don't know much about it.
Oh I see, I do agree with you, don't get me wrong. I just recommended the i5-3570k because although what he seems to require a lot of CPU power, the i5-3570k is decent. But yeah, The rig I linked was only around $1350, which left a couple hundred Dollars for a few upgrades, like the i7-3770k. So you could take the rig I linked, but switch the i5-3570k with the an i7.

ASRock is just a decent brand. To be honest, I don't think there's any "Bonuses" as such, I've just always gone with ASRock when purchasing Motherboard's for several different builds. They're sturdy, offer a lot of features, and all whilst being relatively cheap, etc. But most Z77 Boards are generally alright.

Also, both the 7950 and the 670 are exceptionally good. If that's the case I'd say go with a GTX 670 as well then. Both are decent, don't think there's any arguing there. Just depends on if Cuda are of benefit to you as alpen said.

But, but, but I want to pay full price! :lol:
Hahaha, who doesn't.

yup thanks a lot guys, I'm going to check both setups, both are amazing, and i will get the best of the 2 and post what i decided to do in the next days, I don't know ASRock either and as any other hardware product, i have to search problems, bugs, leaks and so on, international shipment is a pain........

since I cant just return the hardware I need to take that in my choice, a fabric error will gave me 2 months on the wait list :/

either way thank you very much and yeah 3770

I finally got a good idea of what I need.
Yeah, International shipping certainly can be a pain in the old butt. That's why I'd urge you to make up your mind 100% and have no regrets before you order. As I've just said above to alpen, you could take the rig I linked to you, which costs $1300, but ditch the i5-3570k which would put you down to around $1100-$1150, and add in an i7-3770k.

Good luck with whatever you chose though. Just make sure you're sure.

SURECEPTION!
 
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sureception LOL

well i cant get that asrock mother board, and im checking all the motherboards of 1155, no1 selled that combo, sad it was a good deal, people need to understand internet is global shipp your parts global <_<, whats the big deal im paying the shippment anyways :/

ill keep posted
 
Aww haha alright, please do. Don't hesitate to comment whatever you need help on. :) Newegg don't ship Internationally, that I know. Try sites like Tiger direct, and perhaps even Best Buy? Being British, I don't quite know where you could purchase from.

Also, I only recommended ASRock because well A) Their decent, but B] I personally prefer them. Most other Z77 Motherboards will be fine. Like, Gigabyte, MSI, etc.
 
Heres the Setup :

Mother Board
A455-2038 ::ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 Intel Series 7 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA115), Intel Z77 Express, 1866MHz DDR3, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, Thermal Armor(4.65 lbs)

Processor
I69-3770K ::Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K)(0.85 lbs)

GPU
E145-0671 ::EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW 02G-P4-2678-KR Video Card - 2GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0, 1x DVI-I, 1x DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort, DirectX 11, Overclocked(2.45 lbs)

Ram
C13-5718 ::Corsair CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10 Vengeance Desktop Memory Kit - 32GB (4x 8GB), PC3-15000, DDR3-1866MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL10, XMP Ready(0.65 lbs)

SSD
S203-8007 ::Samsung 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 128GB Solid State Drive - 2.5" Form Factor, SATA III, 530 MB/s Read Speed, 390 MB/s Write Speed(0.5 lbs)

Case
N500-2070 ::NZXT Switch 810 CA-SW810-G1 Hybrid Full Tower - ATX, 4x140mm Fan, 4x5.25" Drive Bays, 6x3.5" Drive Bays, 9xExp Slot, Supports Water Cooling, 4 x USB Ports, 2 x Audio Ports, Black(36.95 lbs)

PSU
C13-2576 ::Corsair AX760 CP-9020045-NA 760W Power Supply - 80+ Platinum, ATX, Zero RPM, Single +12V Rail, 140mm Fan, Active PFC, 90-264V Universal AC Input (8.15 lbs)


Image Setup :
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If the shippment is not too expensive ill get a second gtx670
so what are your thought about it
im having doubts about that psu, seems to expensive ....
and yet that wire <_< i hate wire


or

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and another gpu <_<
 
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