New build need some advice!

AllyB said:
Tbh the 1700x looks the dogs balls tbf, it can overclock real nice, is slightly cheaper so it benefits there and overal seems a pretty good chip.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-6ay-as.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39x-am.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-19h-gi.html

That's what i've got so far i may change the GPU tbh though,

Memory wise i'm looking at either of these two.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...mhz-dual-channel-kit-white-led-my-48d-cs.html

as for the rest PSU wise i've got this

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-05q-ss.html

i am however going to run a different CPU cooler though, thinking this but not 100%
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-kraken-x62-aio-water-cooling-unit-280mm-hs-01c-nx.html
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All here, thats for the main build anyways, i currently also have a 250gb samsung 850 evo SSD that'lll be the main HDD

It'll all be going in either one of these two cases.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-source-340-midi-tower-case-white-window-ca-153-nx.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/fractal-design-define-r5-midi-tower-case-white-window-ca-030-fd.html

I'm most likely gunna go with the R5 due to the optical drive slot.
 
AllyB said:
All here, thats for the main build anyways, i currently also have a 250gb samsung 850 evo SSD that'lll be the main HDD

It'll all be going in either one of these two cases.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-source-340-midi-tower-case-white-window-ca-153-nx.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/fractal-design-define-r5-midi-tower-case-white-window-ca-030-fd.html

I'm most likely gunna go with the R5 due to the optical drive slot.
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OK, good choices all around really.

With the 1700 and 1700X having the same price it is up to you which you want. The 1700X has higher stock clock speeds and 1700 has a stock cooler. Both will overclock similarly. 1700X will run best in a non-overclocked state, so you will have a faster system with that until you can dial an overclock in.

Memory wise Ryzen can be a little annoying, though I have found the G.Skill typically works the best. BIOS updates have imporved Ryzen's memory support a lot, but it is best to go for G-Skill ATM. Below is a "Ryzen Optimised" Flare X kit

https://www.amazon.co.uk/G-SKILL-F4...=1514918314&sr=1-4&keywords=g.skill+16gb+ddr4

Cooler wise, you should see our Ryzen 5/7 cooler overview here.

Long story short the cooler you have listed will work great, though the H115i did work marginally better with a lower retail price. £119.99

I use an H115i in my current system with a 4GHz overclock without any issues.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...cpu-cooler-280mm-cw-9060027-ww-hs-035-cs.html

CoolerMaster's MasterLiquid series does offer a lot more value for money though. Their new Master liquid 240 RGB replaces the Master Liquid 240 that we tested with a price of £69.99 and RGB fans (If that matters to you).

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cool...l240l-rgb-aio-cpu-cooler-240mm-hs-07p-cm.html

You PSU, and GPU choices are good for their price brackets. Case wise you will need to make sure that your chosen radiator is supported (be it 240mm or 280mm)

Motherboard wise you can go for a cheaper model like the Strix to save money, though it seems like WiFi is a major factor for you since you didn't go for the cheaper Hero board.
 
WYP said:
OK, good choices all around really.

With the 1700 and 1700X having the same price it is up to you which you want. The 1700X has higher stock clock speeds and 1700 has a stock cooler. Both will overclock similarly. 1700X will run best in a non-overclocked state, so you will have a faster system with that until you can dial an overclock in.

Memory wise Ryzen can be a little annoying, though I have found the G.Skill typically works the best. BIOS updates have imporved Ryzen's memory support a lot, but it is best to go for G-Skill ATM. Below is a "Ryzen Optimised" Flare X kit

https://www.amazon.co.uk/G-SKILL-F4...=1514918314&sr=1-4&keywords=g.skill+16gb+ddr4

Cooler wise, you should see our Ryzen 5/7 cooler overview here.

Long story short the cooler you have listed will work great, though the H115i did work marginally better with a lower retail price. £119.99

I use an H115i in my current system with a 4GHz overclock without any issues.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...cpu-cooler-280mm-cw-9060027-ww-hs-035-cs.html

CoolerMaster's MasterLiquid series does offer a lot more value for money though. Their new Master liquid 240 RGB replaces the Master Liquid 240 that we tested with a price of £69.99 and RGB fans (If that matters to you).

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cool...l240l-rgb-aio-cpu-cooler-240mm-hs-07p-cm.html

You PSU, and GPU choices are good for their price brackets. Case wise you will need to make sure that your chosen radiator is supported (be it 240mm or 280mm)

Motherboard wise you can go for a cheaper model like the Strix to save money, though it seems like WiFi is a major factor for you since you didn't go for the cheaper Hero board.
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Yeh WIFI is a big one as i've got no way to run a cable to the computer, with where it is located.

Just had a look through that coolers nice but if the coolermaster will do the job thats good then, with regards to the memory thats a new one i wasn't 100% aware of that ryzen 7 has issues with memory! So i may have to relook at that as i'm only getting everything from OCUK, i'll have to have a relook at memory. What i may do is drop the Mobie down to a strix so i can change the GPU for the strix instead of the gigabyte.
 
AllyB said:
Yeh WIFI is a big one as i've got no way to run a cable to the computer, with where it is located.

Just had a look through that coolers nice but if the coolermaster will do the job thats good then, with regards to the memory thats a new one i wasn't 100% aware of that ryzen 7 has issues with memory! So i may have to relook at that as i'm only getting everything from OCUK, i'll have to have a relook at memory. What i may do is drop the Mobie down to a strix so i can change the GPU for the strix instead of the gigabyte.
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Cool, though you will have to use a WiFi card as I don't think the Strix has one built in.

Some memory kits can be a bit iffy with Ryzen, but if you use the most recent BIOS you shouldn't have too much trouble. Look and see what other users of that board can get to 3200MHz, though my recommendation still lies with that G.Skill kit.

I can understand why you want to buy from a single retailer but Isn't exactly a bad place to buy products.

Here is the QVL list for ASUS' Crosshair VI Hero motherboard. Hope this helps.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...41.1634539103.1514907031-690188876.1510504968
 
WYP said:
Cool, though you will have to use a WiFi card as I don't think the Strix has one built in.

Some memory kits can be a bit iffy with Ryzen, but if you use the most recent BIOS you shouldn't have too much trouble. Look and see what other users of that board can get to 3200MHz, though my recommendation still lies with that G.Skill kit.

I can understand why you want to buy from a single retailer but Isn't exactly a bad place to buy products.

Here is the QVL list for ASUS' Crosshair VI Hero motherboard. Hope this helps.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...41.1634539103.1514907031-690188876.1510504968
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It also looks like OCUK have validated some Team Group Kits for Ryzen. 8-pack edition memory linked below. Lower cost than the Corsair LED kits and tighter timings. This might be the kit for you. :)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08l-tg.html
 
Yeah, I would avoid most Corsair kits on Ryzen. Can be a bit of a nightmare. I got your PM Ally, sorry mate I was having a nap. The Strix is a fine GPU tbh, if you can afford it. I can understand the Zotac thing.. Never had one myself either. It's just that the Gigabyte really is that bad. Which is a shame, because for many years I would not recommend anything else but a Gigabyte but quality and so on have really nose dived.
 
AlienALX said:
Yeah, I would avoid most Corsair kits on Ryzen. Can be a bit of a nightmare. I got your PM Ally, sorry mate I was having a nap. The Strix is a fine GPU tbh, if you can afford it. I can understand the Zotac thing.. Never had one myself either. It's just that the Gigabyte really is that bad. Which is a shame, because for many years I would not recommend anything else but a Gigabyte but quality and so on have really nose dived.
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It's no probs buddy, i think i've got the build pretty much sorted now, i've found a set of corsair memory that is compatible with Ryzen, little bit more expensive but not massively tbh. Just got to get it ordered now, i had debated about if it was truely worth getting a 1080ti or whether a 1070ti would be perfectly fine as it does bring the price down a fair little bit.

But i'm guessing i'd just be silly to go for the 1070ti?
 
AllyB said:
It's no probs buddy, i think i've got the build pretty much sorted now, i've found a set of corsair memory that is compatible with Ryzen, little bit more expensive but not massively tbh. Just got to get it ordered now, i had debated about if it was truely worth getting a 1080ti or whether a 1070ti would be perfectly fine as it does bring the price down a fair little bit.

But i'm guessing i'd just be silly to go for the 1070ti?
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TBH a GTX 1080 Ti is crazy overkill for a 1080p display. I'd say a 1080 Ti is worth it if you want to upgrade to a 1440p monitor, but if you are sticking to 1080p a 1070Ti GPU might be a better option, as 1080p will leave a lot of performance on the table a lot of the time.
 
Yeah massive difference get the 1080ti. Even if it means getting a 1600. It's fantastic for 1440p and even runs many games at 4k. If you get a 1440p monitor you can drive the res up to 4k using DSR. Will explain better later once I'm not using my phone
 
WYP said:
TBH a GTX 1080 Ti is crazy overkill for a 1080p display. I'd say a 1080 Ti is worth it if you want to upgrade to a 1440p monitor, but if you are sticking to 1080p a 1070Ti GPU might be a better option, as 1080p will leave a lot of performance on the table a lot of the time.
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Yeh i did just wonder about it tbh, i will eventually look at upgrading to a 1440p monitor but it will be later this year/next year or knowing me i'll never get round to it lol
 
I would get a 1080ti, a 1440p G-sync monitor and an extra 8GB of DDR3.
Then wait 2-6 months to see what Ryzen+ turns out to be and whether the DDR4 prices go down.
 
Korreborg said:
I would get a 1080ti, a 1440p G-sync monitor and an extra 8GB of DDR3.
Then wait 2-6 months to see what Ryzen+ turns out to be and whether the DDR4 prices go down.
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Thats blowing the budget a little bit getting the monitor lol. Think the build i'm looking at getting so far works well, only other thing i've considered is maybe one of the cheaper 1080ti, but then obviously suffers on clock speed.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyQgC9JXA78
The thing is. Go up in resolution and the GPU gets hammered = The CPU isn't as important.
OC that i5, and you can easily game for another year or more.

As you can see, i have a i7 4790k, i upgraded from a 4670k 9 months ago, didn't really gain a ton of FPS. And 1440p Ultra setting just looks stunning. Going from 24" 1080p to 27" 1440p is the best gaming thing i have done in a LONG time ;)
 
Korreborg said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyQgC9JXA78
The thing is. Go up in resolution and the GPU gets hammered = The CPU isn't as important.
OC that i5, and you can easily game for another year or more.

As you can see, i have a i7 4790k, i upgraded from a 4670k 9 months ago, didn't really gain a ton of FPS. And 1440p Ultra setting just looks stunning. Going from 24" 1080p to 27" 1440p is the best gaming thing i have done in a LONG time ;)
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Just watched the figures part, yeh i get what your saying, i have noticed that my CPU does struggle abit with some of the games i play, mainly warhammer 2 and some of my more CPU intensive games, hence why i'm thinking bugger it i may aswell just upgrade the lot while i'm at it.
 
With a G-sync monitor i don't think you will notice a difference :)
As i see it, as long as its not a competitive game 60 or 100 fps isn't important.
 
Korreborg said:
With a G-sync monitor i don't think you will notice a difference :)
As i see it, as long as its not a competitive game 60 or 100 fps isn't important.
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Nope. And any way, Fast Sync will run the game as fast as you can run it any way.

I was going to do a big write up on this but to cut it all very short.. Adaptive Vysnc globally cures any tearing and input lag. The price? you *will* feel the game slow down and it will be noticeable but you won't get any tearing or input lag. I have not used Fast Sync yet. I have, however, used Gsync and it wasn't that much better than AVS. Again, you *will* most certainly notice the game slowing down. Absolutely 100% it's unavoidable when you tank from 80 to 30 FPS for example, but it seems to do a similar thing to AVS where you don't get any tears or input lag.

The answer for perfection? as always, throw power at it. *if* you can keep your min FPS above 60 on a 60mhz monitor Vsync will be enabled but there will be no input lag. It really is as simple as that.

There are two main bugbears with gaming. Tearing and lag. Tearing is hideous (it happens when your FPS exceed the hz of your monitor) and lag causes death. In BF3 I could not do the sniper in the mall part because of input lag. It was awful. However, like I said, no technology no matter how good is going to stop the sensation of dropping from 80-30 FPS, or in fact any 50% drop in frame rate. You are definitely going to feel it and notice it, no matter how good the technology for preventing tearing and input lag. That is just PC gaming.

I just throw Titans at the resolution I run. It has worked very well for me. Much better than Gsync, which I did have.
 
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