AlienALX
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It's the V and the D. Google for "Venereal Disease" just don't look at pics....
MSI GTX 1080 Ti Lightning Review
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It's the V and the D. Google for "Venereal Disease" just don't look at pics....
TheF34RChannel
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Yeah I know the word lol now that you've spelled it out
Eddie long
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im in love with it ,,,, doesn't take a lot lol ; but a quick question for the boss was that the standard one or the X or Z variant , as i see they are making 3 versions
TheF34RChannel
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Bit off topic, but why is every Ti so expensive? I never really looked at prices here and did just now for fun and: 965EUR = 844.873 GBP as an average price...it's like the out of control RAM prices it seems? At this rate it's going to be Volta (regular and Ti) for Titan prices (not liking this potential foresight at all).
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TheF34RChannel
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I'm sure it does ha ha, excellent purchase price!
Must be mining still...? Because, what else?
AlienALX
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Memory shortage because of Apple or just capitalist greed.
They don't even need excuses these days.
TheF34RChannel
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They need to come down before we get consumer Volta, I think, because there is no chance they'll price it lower than the previous generation. And I will certainly not pay these prices for a Pascal Ti, regular or Ti Volta - let alone even higher prices. I appreciate performance, but there are (actual and set) limits.
AlienALX
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It's mostly just greed. You could get a 4850 at launch for around £130. We can easily compare that to the 570/580. Nvidia have pushed the prices up and instead of AMD showing them up they're happy to play ball.
Seriously I honestly think within 20 years this world will disappear up its own ass.
Korreborg
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But the price is the same as 3-4 years ago. And the performance is "going through the roof. I feel i get something for my money, unlike in the world of CPU's.
AlienALX
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Everything is relative. For example when the GTX 480 released it could run any current game for those days maxed out. Relatively speaking nothing much has changed apart from die size and cost.
TheF34RChannel
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I bought a 780ti, yes at a high price but it was top of the line.
3 years later = 2,5 times the performance at the same launch price.
To judge performance I'd rather see, apart from separate titles, total percentage differences - hardware unboxed does them for example, very handy. Totally unrelated, sorry, just a thought that came to mind.
AlienALX
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I bought a 780ti, yes at a high price but it was top of the line.
3 years later = 2,5 times the performance at the same launch price.
I don't think you understand relativity, dude.
When you bought your 780Ti it was the fastest card on the market and probably 2.5 times more powerful than the 580. Does that make it clearer?
When the GTX Titan came out it was X% faster than the 680. When the Titan X (M) came out it was X% faster than the 780Ti. When the Titan XP came out etc etc.
If you compare their relativity at launch (IE their capability to run the most modern games at the current resolution) they are all around the same. Each big Nvidia card is X% better than the last. That has not changed, what has is the price for the top end card.
My point about the 4850X2 costing £260 at launch is relative. It was bloody fast back then, easily capable of running any game @ 1080p *THEN* (note then not now, that is not relative) on ultra. The GTX 280 was around £330 or so, and again, was a fast GPU. Easily capable of Fallout 3, for example, on ultra settings @ 1080p.
The 4850 was only one step down from AMD's fastest card at that time, the 4870. Which was only a small handful of FPS slower than a 280 yet cost around £200 or so.
Put simply - GPU manus are taking the . Just completely and utterly taking the . See how AMD have just shamed Intel with their CPU prices (IE a 8c 16t chip you can OC for £280?) well they are not doing that with GPUs. They were (before mining) charging £230 for a 480 8gb. Why? the die is tiny and they are entry level-mid range at best. Why has the price doubled from the 4850?
I'm big into BMX bikes and have been since the 70s. A 2016 Quadangle bike for example costs £700 or so. How much were they in the 80s? yeah, £700 or so. As time moves on most things get cheaper. Things like TVs, microwaves etc. My parents paid £1000 for their first colour TV. Now? that's pretty much top end 55"+ money.
As these things become mass produced more and more the prices should get better, not worse. That is not relative, does not fall in line with inflation etc etc. It's simple economics and they are totally taking the , end of.
TheF34RChannel
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I wish my salary had the same yearly increase 
I can't buy a 1070 for the price I paid for my 470, let alone any top card for what I put down for my 280. I understand natural inflation but not by this much. It's gone out of control.
I can't buy a 1070 for the price I paid for my 470, let alone any top card for what I put down for my 280. I understand natural inflation but not by this much. It's gone out of control.
It's because idiots that we are. We continue to purchase the cards. Myself included. As long as AMD and Nvidia continue to see their sales boom, they will never change their pricing, albeit to drop only when threatened by competition.
Games are the same, used to be digital copies were cheaper than physical. Look at the average price of a downloadable AAA title now.
When the consumers get to the point and realise enough is enough. Then developers/manufactueres etc would have to rethink their strategy. But since we live in an age where "I WANT" outweighs "I NEED" then prices will keep going up far more than unit cost prices rise.
AlienALX
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Yup that pretty much sums it up. How does the saying go?
"You can charge whatever you want for anything. Doesn't mean it will sell"
But it will sell because that is what PC gaming is all about, the hardware you have.
Korreborg
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But then the problem is the game producers. Why not just stop making them harder to run???
The first computer we had, where a midrange Amitech(DK brand i think) at 20k+ DDK thats 15-20years ago. 20k were ALOT of money at that time. i kan build a awesome rig for 10K DKK today, adjusting for inflation that's WAY cheaper.
And take a look at the development budget of the quadbike, and the on a GPU.
Fallout ultra, but at what FPS? Now its not 1080p (Then compare the price to a 1060 that's the king of 1080p)
Now a 1080ti can run games at 60+ FPS at 4k. That's tougher games at 4times the resolution. At the same price as the top card 3-4 years ago.
I get relativity, i just don't think your comparison i suitable as there is more than one variable factor
The first computer we had, where a midrange Amitech(DK brand i think) at 20k+ DDK thats 15-20years ago. 20k were ALOT of money at that time. i kan build a awesome rig for 10K DKK today, adjusting for inflation that's WAY cheaper.
And take a look at the development budget of the quadbike, and the on a GPU.
Fallout ultra, but at what FPS? Now its not 1080p (Then compare the price to a 1060 that's the king of 1080p)
Now a 1080ti can run games at 60+ FPS at 4k. That's tougher games at 4times the resolution. At the same price as the top card 3-4 years ago.
I get relativity, i just don't think your comparison i suitable as there is more than one variable factor
