Moving to Intel. I think.

EddWills95

EddWills95

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Hi Guys, i've been thinking about moving to Intel from my AMD chip

Which is great, buuuuttttt....Intel seems to have more power and the Haswell things looks pretty awesome, and AMD seems to be hinting at something more powerful but not for some time...

Lots of room for upgrade with insanely fast Ram and lots of SATA ports etc..

But my problem is that i have no idea what is what besides the 'k' means unlocked (which is what i'm looking for)

So i'm thinking if i manage to sell my current Motherboard and CPU i could hopefully get about £170+ and i'll have a bit more to play with so maybe 200-300.

Does this even put me in the ball park of Haswell, and if not anywhere into ivy bridge ?

Cheers guys
Hope that was somewhat clear what i'm after :p
 
Depends what you're doing on it. For gaming, sort that gpu out. For video rendering and other stuff, if it uses the 8 threads on the 8350 then go for that. Cheaper than moving.
 
okay i'll think about that...

But sticking with the Intel Switching...Anything in particular you could suggest? :p

i'm a persistent little bugger ;)
 
Selling a 965 and 990XA-GD55 for £170+?
You can get the motherboard new for £85, and the CPU new for £60 these days...
You'd probably be lucky to get over £100 in total for them tbh.

You'd have more fun with Intel I reckon. overclocks on the 965 are very limited really. Maybe look into getting a 2500k/3570k used? With a cheap Z77 board, like an MSI G45.
You'll see a fair performance increase with that.
 
Cheers for the input guys i'll look into those. Just with intel, i never know whats what with all the numbers tbh.

You're probably right about the price as well i think i was being really optimistic ;)

Edit: Just found a 2550k for £127. Now just need to find a motherboard.
 
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EddWills95 said:
Cheers for the input guys i'll look into those. Just with intel, i never know whats what with all the numbers tbh.

You're probably right about the price as well i think i was being really optimistic ;)

Edit: Just found a 2550k for £127. Now just need to find a motherboard.
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2550k for £127 isn't that cheap.
I bought a 3570k on friday for £120.

To help you with numbers:
The only unlocked Intels are i5s and i7s.
From Sandybridge:
i5 - 2500k (the 2550k is just a slightly higher binned chip - not worth the extra money over the original really)
i7 - 2600k and 2700k.

Then you've got the 2011s which you won't be bothered about.

From Ivybridge:
i5 - 3570k
i7 - 3770k

Says it all for Ivybridge really...

From Haswell:
i5 - 4670k
i7 - 4770k

I think these will be out of your price range.


With Sandy and Ivy, with an MSI Z77-G45 you should expect to be hitting clocks of around 4.5ghz pretty easily depending on the chip.
 
Personally, I would only go for something with more than 4 cores as i see that as future proofing. Problem is, intel 6 core cpus are off the face of this earth. A second hand 980x is probably beyond your budget.

Even though my old phenom is beginning to show it's age, I'm trying to sit on my hands waiting for steamroller. (i'm fighting the urge to find a cheap thuban) I did consider a 2500K back in 2011 but i've avoided intel for nearly 15 years and it's hard to break that habit.
 
2550k for £127 isn't that cheap.
I bought a 3570k on friday for £120.
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Shows my knowledge of the intel platform pricing ;)
I'll keep looking

Then you've got the 2011s which you won't be bothered about
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What should i be looking at then 1155? :s

I'm trying to sit on my hands waiting for steamroller
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Any ideas when this will be coming out ?? I was going to do this over the summer or ASAP (impatient...)
 
Tbh, the 3570k was a very good deal :p
Yeah, you need to be looking for 1155 (possibly 1150 if you really wanted Haswell).

Both Sandybridge and Ivybridge work on the 1155 platform.
The 1155 chipsets range from P67, Z68, Z77 (they're the ones worth getting anyway) so make sure the board you choose is one of them.
 
End of the year I reckon. Since i don't find my 955 @ 3.7 to struggle too much, I'm just about willing to wait it out. I've been trying everything i can think of to clock it higher but it isn't happening. (hence me wanting to find a cheap thuban) TBH, every time i look at a superpi time from an intel and then look at an amd it's a depressing sight. When i price up the necessary intel bits, it brings me back down to earth again with quite a bump.

I'd say on a budget, seriously consider the 8320 as it is very good value. The problem i see in buying a 2500k is the socket is already EOL so you can't upgrade again without needing to spend £100-200 on a decent motherboard. 2011 makes more sense as it should last another cycle, but it's prohibitively expensive. Steamroller is supposedly going to remain on AM3 and the proposed 30% IPC improvement should make it a very competitive chip. (If it really is 30%) The way i see it, heavy multi-threading is going to take off significantly in the next couple of years, meaning IPC is not going to be quite as important vs the number of cores you have. It'll be a lot like the adoption of 64 bit and the move from single core to dual etc. It takes a few years for it to take off and the advantages are minimal at first with a lot of people questioning the need for it.
 
If steamroller is anything amd claims then waiting is what i would do. If it really is 15-30% faster(overall) then it will be very competitive to intel. Upgrade to a cheap FX cpu now and wait?
 
hmmm end of the year... i'll be gone at uni. And my brother won't bother to do anything with it. So i think i'm gunna end up doing something now ;) or this summer .
 
Kei said:
I'd say on a budget, seriously consider the 8320 as it is very good value. The problem i see in buying a 2500k is the socket is already EOL so you can't upgrade again without needing to spend £100-200 on a decent motherboard. 2011 makes more sense as it should last another cycle, but it's prohibitively expensive. Steamroller is supposedly going to remain on AM3 and the proposed 30% IPC improvement should make it a very competitive chip. (If it really is 30%) The way i see it, heavy multi-threading is going to take off significantly in the next couple of years, meaning IPC is not going to be quite as important vs the number of cores you have. It'll be a lot like the adoption of 64 bit and the move from single core to dual etc. It takes a few years for it to take off and the advantages are minimal at first with a lot of people questioning the need for it.
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I've never really agreed with that EOL thing.
When I upgrade a processor, I generally want to upgrade the motherboard too. You often get a few features on the new chips that won't be available on the older gen motherboard.
For example, Ivybridge with PCIE 3 and faster RAM speeds, although they were compatible with older Z68 and P67 stuff, they never worked quite as well as a Z77 board. Even in general performance. I'd always want to upgrade the motherboard too if I were buying a new processor.
 
I agree with you on that point. My systems usually last me so long that when i come to upgrade time, I'm usually a few generations behind. My socket 939 system lasted so long that i bypassed AM2, DDR2 & dual cores completely and went straight to AM3, DDR3 and an X4. Ideally when i upgrade to steamroller, I'll be waiting for new motherboards to arrive first. Though that has a lot to do with the present 990 range being a bit lacklustre and my old 790 board not supporting anything past thuban.

I'd say he has the budget for haswell, the total for a 4670K and gigabyte Z87-UD3H board is £335. A gigabyte 990FX-UD5 and 8320 comes in at £262. Personally i'd save the money and get a much better GPU as a 6670 isn't going to be up to handling a lot, even my 6970 struggles with the heavy stuff.
 
haha sorry guys, you've been talking about my GPU and i've only just realised that i hadn't updated my Sig. to show the 7870 tahiti i got a little while back :p

My bad
 
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