Monitor Overclocking ?

[NeverBackDown]

unfortunately there is a limit that your panel will support. Say for instance you have a 1080p monitor, it will never go over 1920 width or 1080 height, though you can create lower resolutions and even then it could look terrible or decent depending on how your monitor scales.

So how to people go about upscaling the res to higher than the native one?

 

[Kushiro]

I am pretty sure that is referring to content xD The res of a panel is kinda fixed on a hardware level haha. The native res of a panel is in essence how many pixels are in the panel, ya can go to a lower res but you cant go higher as every pixel can only display one pixel, whereas if you go to a lower res the pixels can be combined.

bit confusing but its actually quite simple, too bad I dont have a diagram

EDIT: Put it this way, the display is essentially stretched across more pixels when you use a lower resolution, however when you go to a higher resolution you are essentially asking the pixel to take on the job of more than one and since pixels can only be one color at a time that would make it impossible.

EDIT2: please just ignore the first edit, just seems to make it more confusing at times haha.

 

[BigBlue1]

Luckily the Nvidia control panel has this function built into it

Even luckier you can get a good 120hz monitor for very cheap, or if you want to get a little more space on the screen, you can get a 4k 39inch tv and use it as a monitor for just $339.00

However the refresh rate is limited to 30hz in 4k mode, but does 120hz in 1080 mode.

Link

 

[NeverBackDown]

I am pretty sure that is referring to content xD The res of a panel is kinda fixed on a hardware level haha. The native res of a panel is in essence how many pixels are in the panel, ya can go to a lower res but you cant go higher as every pixel can only display one pixel, whereas if you go to a lower res the pixels can be combined.

bit confusing but its actually quite simple, too bad I dont have a diagram

EDIT: Put it this way, the display is essentially stretched across more pixels when you use a lower resolution, however when you go to a higher resolution you are essentially asking the pixel to take on the job of more than one and since pixels can only be one color at a time that would make it impossible.

EDIT2: please just ignore the first edit, just seems to make it more confusing at times haha.

I know all this. I was just wondering how people upscale the res. Few forum members have done this recently. Can't remember who though.

 

[Damien c]

I have previously set a custom resolution on my monitor of 2560x1600 but wasn't sure if it would damage the monitor, and couldn't find anything concrete on the net to confirm whether it would or not.

 

[Kushiro]

I know all this. I was just wondering how people upscale the res. Few forum members have done this recently. Can't remember who though.

Well if you do find them, please let me know. As I am rather curious as to how it was possible. Since pixels cannot display more than one color it would appear impossible... It could have been downscaling a higher res to match.

 

[QuietOne]

I upscaled my 1440p to 4K, looks terrible but I did it at 30hz.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well if you do find them, please let me know. As I am rather curious as to how it was possible. Since pixels cannot display more than one color it would appear impossible... It could have been downscaling a higher res to match.

Called AA. Pretty sure thats how they do it. You don't need to add more pixels.

I upscaled my 1440p to 4K, looks terrible but I did it at 30hz.

How did you do that may i ask?

 

[QuietOne]

Called AA. Pretty sure thats how they do it. You don't need to add more pixels.



How did you do that may i ask?

I downloaded more pixels

I created a custom resolution in nvidia control panel but I think games were still 1440p even though I selected the 4K res in the options.

 

[iBeInspire]

Apps like GeDoSaTo allow your GPU to render a 4k image in games, then downscale it to 1080p or 1440p depending on your monitor which makes the picture smoother and sharper at the same time... But in all honest fact it's the exact same thing as ''SSAA = SuperSampling AA''. The technology's been around for a long time, nothing new

 

[Kushiro]

err I did say it could have been downscaling from a higher res, but whatever...

 

[NeverBackDown]

err I did say it could have been downscaling from a higher res, but whatever...

and i said AA, but whatever

Apps like GeDoSaTo allow your GPU to render a 4k image in games, then downscale it to 1080p or 1440p depending on your monitor which makes the picture smoother and sharper at the same time... But in all honest fact it's the exact same thing as ''SSAA = SuperSampling AA''. The technology's been around for a long time, nothing new

Does it take a performance hit? Well i know it does but how big is the performance loss? from rendering all that?

 

[Kushiro]

and i said AA, but whatever


Whatever :nutkick:

EDIT: came out wrong but whatever.

 

[iBeInspire]

and i said AA, but whatever



Does it take a performance hit? Well i know it does but how big is the performance loss? from rendering all that?

Just saw this and in the GeDoSaTo readme it says something along the lines of ''framerate scales linearly with framebuffer size'' which I assume means that if 4k is double the rez (which it is for 1080p), you should expect half the framerate.

On second thought I think 4k might be 8x 1080p in terms of pixels, but I've never experienced a 8x framerate difference between downsampling and not... probably not even half TBH...

 

[NeverBackDown]

Just saw this and in the GeDoSaTo readme it says something along the lines of ''framerate scales linearly with framebuffer size'' which I assume means that if 4k is double the rez (which it is for 1080p), you should expect half the framerate.

On second thought I think 4k might be 8x 1080p in terms of pixels, but I've never experienced a 8x framerate difference between downsampling and not... probably not even half TBH...

No its 4x the hit. 3840/2= 1080 and 2160/2= 1080. So its really just a double in horizontal and vertical lines/pixels. So its 4x the amount. I guess it depends on the game?

 

[Estacado7706]

I guess it depends on the game?

This.

You could see from nearly no fps drops to a drop to 1/8. Depending on the operations done (other than only filling pixels).

If you create geometry and this makes up for most of the gpu usage you will see a drop to 1/8 since the world space of the scene will be 2x width 2x height 2x depth.
When your card did not have to go all in before you could have no loss at all. (Vsynch => card had to wait)
Without vsynch and most of the gputime spent on filling the framebuffer then you will arrive at ~ 1/4 of the framerate you had before.

 

[agent_x007]

unfortunately there is a limit that your panel will support. Say for instance you have a 1080p monitor, it will never go over 1920 width or 1080 height, though you can create lower resolutions and even then it could look terrible or decent depending on how your monitor scales.

Good one

Basicly 4096:2560 on 1920:1200 screen (of course it's at 32Hz) ;D

And performance drop is a little more than rendering game at that resolution on native panel.

Information 1 :
If I want to use resolutions over 3200:2000, I have to apply it on Desktop first (otherwise it won't be available in game/program settings).

Information 2 :
Using higher than 16x AA mode (ie. 8xQ or 16xQ), will crash Crysis (at Very High) after few moments.
Probably GTX 780 Ti needs more VRAM or it's a game bug.

 

[Matsamas]

so do you guys saying that if i follow this way i can downscale my 4k monitor (60hz) to 2560x1440 and achieve a 75hz or greater?

Do you mean that since my monitor is 4k the 1440p res will look better than others monitors due to more pixel=more colors etc? Cuz as you said the maximum pixel on 1440p is 2560x1440 but mine has 3840x2160.

 

[Dicehunter]

so do you guys saying that if i follow this way i can downscale my 4k monitor (60hz) to 2560x1440 and achieve a 75hz or greater?

Do you mean that since my monitor is 4k the 1440p res will look better than others monitors due to more pixel=more colors etc? Cuz as you said the maximum pixel on 1440p is 2560x1440 but mine has 3840x2160.

Yes running 1440P res on your 4K will look better than on a native 1440P panel as you will have nearly 3 pixels for every one pixel on an actual 1440P screen.

1440P has 3.6 million and 4K has 8.3 million.

But to be honest even a 75Hz refresh rate over 60Hz isn't worth the hassle of overclocking.

 

[Matsamas]

Tnx dice hunter. Well i also have a side 1080p monitor i use for fast task when needed,quick reply on email wgile gaming etc and imma try to overclock it as an expirement then i will go on 4k and test whether 4k 60hz or 1440p 75hz(greater if possible) looks better but still if done hassle free then i will have an option for everyday use-normal gaming and an fps gamming resolution.

Sry for my english,its been a long while back since i left US. (12 years)