Is this upgrade worth it?

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Badelhas

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I have a 2500k overclocked to 4.4ghz, a Asus P8Z68V_PRO board, 8gb ram ddr3 1600mhz and a nvidia 1070. Then I have an old 120gb Vertex 3 Sata SSD but I'm always running out of space. Had to install Doom 2016 (50gb) on the HDD and the loading time is unbelievable. My question is if in your opinion I should upgrade to the 6700k, Z170-A Motherboard, 16gb ddr4 and the new NVMe Samsung 960 Evo 500gb ssd (about 1000 euros total) or just buy a Sata Samsung 850 Evo (140 euros) and wait for the next generation of CPUs and such.
Will I notice any significant performance gains during normal use (boot time, loading game levels, installing updates and programs Open 40 chrome tabs at once, etc)?

Cheers
 
Doom is one of the few games that reacts well to SSD speed. I have tested it on a few drives now and yeah, faster the better.

No you should not upgrade to ANYTHING. Wait, dude. What you have is more than good enough just get a big SSD as you can take that with you if you upgrade.

But yeah, I have this horrible feeling that any one buying anything Intel now is going to wish they had not. Even if you are die hard blue that's fine, but you will be paying far less for the same in a few weeks time.

Same goes for GPUs. Even if you refuse to buy AMD at least let them take a smack at Nvidia first to see what happens to prices.
 
AlienALX said:
Doom is one of the few games that reacts well to SSD speed. I have tested it on a few drives now and yeah, faster the better.

No you should not upgrade to ANYTHING. Wait, dude. What you have is more than good enough just get a big SSD as you can take that with you if you upgrade.

But yeah, I have this horrible feeling that any one buying anything Intel now is going to wish they had not. Even if you are die hard blue that's fine, but you will be paying far less for the same in a few weeks time.

Same goes for GPUs. Even if you refuse to buy AMD at least let them take a smack at Nvidia first to see what happens to prices.
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Thank you both for your answers. I agree. I think my CPU is more than fine for now, the last 4 gen of Intel CPUs were very small upgrades in terms of performance and the lack of competition from AMD is to blame. I hope that changes with the next AMD CPU.
I think I'll just buy a Sata Samsung 850 Evo since what's really bugging me is the lack of space on the ssd. Should I go for the 500gb or the 250gb? Is the bigger version much faster in real life?

Cheers
 
Badelhas said:
Thank you both for your answers. I agree. I think my CPU is more than fine for now, the last 4 gen of Intel CPUs were very small upgrades in terms of performance and the lack of competition from AMD is to blame. I hope that changes with the next AMD CPU.
I think I'll just buy a Sata Samsung 850 Evo since what's really bugging me is the lack of space on the ssd. Should I go for the 500gb or the 250gb? Is the bigger version much faster in real life?

Cheers
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Depending on how your board is laid out I would go for a NVME drive in a PCIE sled. The sleds can be had for a tenner. The speed increase in NVME is just sick though dude. We're talking like 3tb ps read :O

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/512...pcie-30-(x4)-ssd-read-3000mb-s-write-1150mb-s

Then when you do decide to upgrade once you can make a more informed decision I would guess you can take it out of the sled and run it straight from the board :)

I'm about to do something similar myself once my RAIDR is full :D
 
With Kaby lake, Ryzen and Vega all due within the near future, I would certainly wait.

Buying a good sized SSD as previously mentioned is a good move due to the ability to move it to a new build.
 
AlienALX said:
Depending on how your board is laid out I would go for a NVME drive in a PCIE sled. The sleds can be had for a tenner. The speed increase in NVME is just sick though dude. We're talking like 3tb ps read :O

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/512...pcie-30-(x4)-ssd-read-3000mb-s-write-1150mb-s

Then when you do decide to upgrade once you can make a more informed decision I would guess you can take it out of the sled and run it straight from the board :)

I'm about to do something similar myself once my RAIDR is full :D
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My Asus P8Z68V_PRO motherboard dosent have NVMe support but with a bios mod it would support it. Problem is the PCIe speed is X2. You need PCIe x4 to get those speeds. And sequencial speed means nothing to real world use, 4K speed is the most important thing for normal use and that hasent improved much since my old Vertex 3 (2011).
 
Badelhas said:
My Asus P8Z68V_PRO motherboard dosent have NVMe support but with a bios mod it would support it. Problem is the PCIe speed is X2. You need PCIe x4 to get those speeds. And sequencial speed means nothing to real world use, 4K speed is the most important thing for normal use and that hasent improved much since my old Vertex 3 (2011).
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You don't have any X16 slots?
 
A PCIE slot is usually wired electrically to give a certain number of lanes. If that slot is a full length slot stated as X4 then it usually means there are only a certain amount of traces wired to it.

X1 and X4 devices fit into X16 slots. If that lane states X4 then that should mean you can put a X4 device into it and get the full bandwidth.

Your link is not working. If you can give me the full link (looks like a mobile device) I will do some reading for you :) There may be known issues with your chipset etc that usually comes down to board.
 
AlienALX said:
A PCIE slot is usually wired electrically to give a certain number of lanes. If that slot is a full length slot stated as X4 then it usually means there are only a certain amount of traces wired to it.

X1 and X4 devices fit into X16 slots. If that lane states X4 then that should mean you can put a X4 device into it and get the full bandwidth.

Your link is not working. If you can give me the full link (looks like a mobile device) I will do some reading for you :) There may be known issues with your chipset etc that usually comes down to board.
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I immediately corrected the link but you answered before noticing, I believe. Try now. It's from AnandTech forums
 
Badelhas said:
Or this one, it also explains the bios mod very well.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1571271/...-any-ami-uefi-bios-with-an-intel-chipset/0_50
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If you can do that then it should work dude. I know that with my RAIDR (X4 PCIE) I have it in a X16 slot that is full X16 but the card is X4 and I get the full touted speed of the drive.

Just don't use an X4 drive at less (so X2 or X1) because then performance will tank. But yeah, if that X16 slot wired to X4 is empty you should be OK in there. You may not get the full advertised speed but it should still beat SATA III speeds.
 
AlienALX said:
If you can do that then it should work dude. I know that with my RAIDR (X4 PCIE) I have it in a X16 slot that is full X16 but the card is X4 and I get the full touted speed of the drive.

Just don't use an X4 drive at less (so X2 or X1) because then performance will tank. But yeah, if that X16 slot wired to X4 is empty you should be OK in there. You may not get the full advertised speed but it should still beat SATA III speeds.
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Thanks for all you help. :)
But I'm not so much interested in sequential speed since the random 4k write and read speed is much more important, right? Those don't change much between the Sata 850 Evo and install Windows NVMe 960 Evo, correct?

Cheers
 
Badelhas said:
Thanks for all you help. :)
But I'm not so much interested in sequential speed since the random 4k write and read speed is much more important, right? Those don't change much between the Sata 850 Evo and install Windows NVMe 960 Evo, correct?

Cheers
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I've not compared them tbh. With the games I tested that suffer from poor drive performance the faster the drive the faster the loads.But yes, from what I recall drives are usually made or broken on the 4k RWs.
 
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