Is it worth the upgrade?...

Dawelio

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Hey guys,

So I have an ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe 1155 motherboard with an i7 2600K 3.4GHz and was wondering if upgrading to an i7 3770K 1155 would be worth it or would it be a waiste of money?... since it costs about £300 here in Sweden (sort of).

Thanks,
Chrazey
 
Honestly not worth it bud, Save that money and put it towards something else like an SSD, HDD, GPU, Better headset, AMP/DAC, Cooler, Fans, Seriously the difference between the 2 is TINY and not worth it, I would look at upgrading anything else before the 2600K, Still an awesome chip.

Here's a good comparison between the 2 - Benchmarks
 
I would look at upgrading anything else before the 2600K, Still an awesome chip.

Thanks again for the reply Dice! :)

The thing I'm sort of having an "concern" about is the fact that it's an 2nd generation CPU, a bit "old" or "outdated" now and the thought of it running hotter and draws more power/less power efficient than the newer 3rd and 4th Gen CPUs... I might be exaggerating this as well now though :mellow:...
 
Thanks again for the reply Dice! :)

The thing I'm sort of having an "concern" about is the fact that it's an 2nd generation CPU, a bit "old" or "outdated" now and the thought of it running hotter and draws more power/less power efficient than the newer 3rd and 4th Gen CPUs... I might be exaggerating this as well now though :mellow:...

You're welcome :)

You're best off waiting as honestly the 2600K is a very capable chip and if you do mainly gaming I wouldn't bother until Skylake comes out or maybe not even then, We shall have to wait and see :)
 
You're welcome :)

You're best off waiting as honestly the 2600K is a very capable chip and if you do mainly gaming I wouldn't bother until Skylake comes out or maybe not even then, We shall have to wait and see :)

Cool cool... yeah at the moment I game a bit, but mostly like daily stuff, ie browsing the net, watching movies etc etc. Even doing some photoshopping from time to time.
I think that the 2600K is more than capable really when it comes to rendering videos as well... I mean, it's quite a beast in my opinion still...

And Skylake, what is that?...

Also, I got this in an old PM from Feronix that I just found and do you agree?...

Honestly, there's not much point in the 2600k > 3770k upgrade as there is barely a performance difference. The only benefit you'll have is the Z77 chipset with things like PCI-E Gen 3.0 and such.
 
Cool cool... yeah at the moment I game a bit, but mostly like daily stuff, ie browsing the net, watching movies etc etc. Even doing some photoshopping from time to time.
I think that the 2600K is more than capable really when it comes to rendering videos as well... I mean, it's quite a beast in my opinion still...

And Skylake, what is that?...

Also, I got this in an old PM from Feronix that I just found and do you agree?...

Skylake is the next chip to come out from Intel, Well Broadwell first and then sometime later Skylake, Intels schedule is a bit up in the air at the moment, For the public anyway.

Totally agree with Feronix, The performance difference between PCI-E 2.0 and PCI-E 3.0 both at X16 on a single GPU is miniscule at best, I'm talking in the region of less than 1 frame and some games upwards of 5+ frames.

A good article and comparison here - Benchmarks
 
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Skylake is the next chip to come out from Intel, Well Broadwell first and then sometime later Skylake, Intels schedule is a bit up in the air at the moment, For the public anyway.

Totally agree with Feronix, The performance difference between PCI-E 2.0 and PCI-E 3.0 both at X16 on a single GPU is miniscule at best, I'm talking in the region of less than 1 frame and some games upwards of 5+ frames.

A good article and comparison here - Benchmarks

Okay, that was what I was thinking... well if I would even consider it, it would have had been launched and been out on the market for some time to dropped in price. As when new CPUs are usually launched, they are a bit pricey. Even the 3770K is quite pricey in my opinion.

Okay... so won't ask the same question twice regarding PCI-E Gens and GPU, as asked that in the Graphics card upgrade thread.

So you wouldn't recommend/tell me to get the 3770K as it's not worth it over the 2600K, even if it's just the utilize the Gen 3.0 aspect?...

Other than the question above, I think I've gotten my answer on this thread, thanks dude! :)

And one last question though... when you talk about the 5+ frames in some games, do you mean that the difference between the 2600K and 3770K is in the region of +1 or 5+ frames in certain games?... nothing more than that?...
 
So you wouldn't recommend/tell me to get the 3770K as it's not worth it over the 2600K, even if it's just the utilize the Gen 3.0 aspect?...

Other than the question above, I think I've gotten my answer on this thread, thanks dude! :)

And one last question though... when you talk about the 5+ frames in some games, do you mean that the difference between the 2600K and 3770K is in the region of +1 or 5+ frames in certain games?... nothing more than that?...

I'd only recommend getting the 3770K if you can get it for cheap/pre-owned and going by videos on YouTube the difference between a rig with a 2600K and 3770K will be somewhere in the region of 1 - 5+ fps depending on the resolution etc...as is pointed out in that linked article :)

As you can see here BF3 gets no bonuses for Gen 3.0 -


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Same story with Batman Arkham City -


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But there are games out there like Skyrim that will take advantage of the extra bandwidth but the fps difference isn't game changing -


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I know the article is using a GTX 680 but it will be roughly the same result with the 970 on gen 2 vs gen 3.
 
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I'd only recommend getting the 3770K if you can get it for cheap/pre-owned and going by videos on YouTube the difference between a rig with a 2600K and 3770K will be somewhere in the region of 1 - 5+ fps depending on the resolution etc...as is pointed out in that linked article :)

As you can see4 here BF3 gets no bonuses for Gen 3.0

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Same story with Batman Arkham City -

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But there are games out there like Skyrim that will take advantage of the extra bandwidth but the fps difference is tiny -

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Thanks for that one Dice, really appreciate this! :)

And that basically says it all then, even though considering what we've said in the "Graphics card upgrade" thread, regarding being on the safe side, if I can get an 3770K very cheap. It basically won't do much difference really.

This question will most likely be a pain in the ass and be like for you guys "well can't you look that up yourself?...", and the truth is, I've never looked at this kind of specs etc before, so don't really know where to look.

But looking at those specs of BF3, do you think it's a similar case for BF4, Crysis 3 and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare?...

EDIT: Didn't see those last 2 ones before I posted this one... but that ~7 fps isn't game/world changing as you say and for the price of a 3770K ~£300, I'm willing to sacrifie ~10 fps for those money :P

How much would you say I'd try to get an 3770K for then?, what would you personally go for?...

Thanks (once again) :)
 
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But looking at those specs of BF3, do you think it's a similar case for BF4, Crysis 3 and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare?...
Thanks (once again) :)

It will be the exact same story, This graph shows 2 Titans in SLI so you should be able to guesstimate the performance from that seeing as a 970 is slightly faster than a Titan as can be seen Here -

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How much would you say I'd try to get an 3770K for then?, what would you personally go for?...

Have a look locally where you live or in the classifieds would be my suggestion, Personally I wouldn't pay more than £150 pre-owned.
 
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It will be the exact same story, This graph shows 2 Titans in SLI so you should be able to guesstimate the performance from that seeing as a 970 is slightly faster than a Titan as can be seen Here -

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Have a look locally where you live or in the classifieds would be my suggestion, Personally I wouldn't pay more than £150 pre-owned.

Really? :huh:... then how come a Titan is like £1000 more expensive than a 970? :p...

So from that graph... Crysis 3 is a waaay more demanding game than BF3, if my brain still works (haven't slept yet)...

Okay, so £150 is a "good" price for an 3770K then, cool... so will have look out for it.
But for a new one then?, if it would come on sale... how low would it have to go down in price for you to personally hit the button?...
 
Really? :huh:... then how come a Titan is like £1000 more expensive than a 970? :p...

So from that graph... Crysis 3 is a waaay more demanding game than BF3, if my brain still works (haven't slept yet)...

Okay, so £150 is a "good" price for an 3770K then, cool... so will have look out for it.
But for a new one then?, if it would come on sale... how low would it have to go down in price for you to personally hit the button?...

A Titan Black which is slightly faster than a normal Titan costs roughly £700 in the UK and a 970 costs roughly £300, Hardly £1000 more ^_^

It's more expensive as it has faster double precision and 3GB's of extra VRAM, The precision isn't used by any game, Only compute tasks but the extra memory is useful for high resolutions.

Personally if the 3770K was brand new never used I'd pay around the £200 mark considering it's 2 generations old now.
 
A Titan Black which is slightly faster than a normal Titan costs roughly £700 in the UK and a 970 costs roughly £300, Hardly £1000 more ^_^

It's more expensive as it has faster double precision and 3GB's of extra VRAM, The precision isn't used by any game, Only compute tasks but the extra memory is useful for high resolutions.

Personally if the 3770K was brand new never used I'd pay around the £200 mark considering it's 2 generations old now.

Haha yeah, pressed the zero button once too much and didn't think of it to edit the post hehe :p...

Ahh okay, so Titan is basically more for horsepower when it comes to graphical workloads, ie 3D rendering etc...

Okay, so £200 mark for a 3770K then, thanks for the mark guidelines mate! :)
 
I would take a good 2600k over a 3770k every time.

The 2600k does not support PCI-E 3.0 and is not quite as efficient as the 3770k but it will overclock a fair bit more which is a lot more useful.
 
I have been debating this for quite a while. Since Ivy Bridge was technically able to work with my Sandy Bridge era mobo (Gigabyte P67-UD7) after a simple bios upgrade, I was really considering upgrading the CPU. But after constant reading (sometimes re-reading stuff when I'm bored) I kept coming back to the conclusion that all the hassle of selling/buying/installing wasn't worth it for at best, a side-grade. Hell, I'm even not sold on 47xx series. I've come across some pretty good deals for CPU/mobo combos but similar to the whole 37xx scenario, the performance is on average 5-10% better with 47xx in the things I'd use it for - again not worth the hassle. So my 2600K remains for now.
 
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