Intel's Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X CPUs will not be soldered

WOW so these are probably going to run hot and need the warranty voiding in order to get decent temps on them.

Not to mention it's probably going to cost you £50 to £75 on top of the price of the cpu for the tool and some Coollaboratory Liquid Pro and something to cover the components under, the IHS to stop the Liquid Pro from causing issues if it leaks of the die.

After I de-lidded my old 4790K I knocked around 20c of the hottest core, and whilst I have not done it with my 6700K, I do get tempted but currently I don't have a need to overclock my cpu, but when I do then I will de-lid it.
 
There goes the dream lol! That was the ONLY reason I wanted one of those CPU's! Damnit Intel why you do this douchebaggery... Now I might as well just stick with an i7 7700K or get the i9 7800X

Edit: I didn't even notice that Skylake-X isn't soldered as well, even though so far still a rumor. Looking forward to the reviews on the 12th
 
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The arrogance of intel has no limits.

Edit: I am not a fan boy but i sincerely hope that AMD Threadripper will render X299 totally pointless.
 
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The 7700K was a beast at overclocking... once you delidded it. Its main selling point could have been improved greatly with something AMD do on cheaper parts. I'm surprised Intel haven't caught on yet.
 
As mentioned above, Intel's arrogance here seemingly knows no bounds. In spite of the fact they simply can't be unaware of the fact that the 7700K was a BEAST when de-lidded, they just don't care. This is clearly evidenced by them recently telling people NOT to overclock them lol!! I REALLY hope AMD can deliver with X399 and bury Intel in the dirt. I'm done with them personally and am truly fed up with how they're treating consumers.
 
atomicus said:
As mentioned above, Intel's arrogance here seemingly knows no bounds. In spite of the fact they simply can't be unaware of the fact that the 7700K was a BEAST when de-lidded, they just don't care. This is clearly evidenced by them recently telling people NOT to overclock them lol!! I REALLY hope AMD can deliver with X399 and bury Intel in the dirt. I'm done with them personally and am truly fed up with how they're treating consumers.
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Intel have shown this sort of contempt to their users for YEARS. When they found out that people could overclock the Pentium 60 to a Pentium 75 that was where the war began. They outlawed overclocking and it was difficult to do (usually required pin mods). Then AMD come along and encourage it and all of a sudden Intel decide to release unlocked CPUs. However, they also decided they were going to charge the earth for it. I don't mean the K series I mean the first P4 EE that cost a grand.

Ever since then they have been equally as obtuse when dealing with overclocking. They locked down all of their Xeons and non K parts which IMO should have been a crime. If I could overclock my 8 core Ivy I would bet it would be almost as good as a 5960x. But no, they even locked the FSB so that the board won't post if you go 3mhz over the standard. Just total BS tbh.

AMD have always been into giving things away. CPUs that clock higher, GPUs with locked bits that you can unlock and so on. They're also very generous, considering the 1700 Ryzen is every bit as good as the much more expensive 1800X. That is the sort of thing Intel NEVER do. They don't release a £100 I5 that can be made to be as good as the £200 part. Back in the days of Core 2 Duo you could do just that, but then they decided to lock it all down.

The only even remotely generous thing Intel have done recently was the Pentium with HT. That's an absolute cracker at a great price but I would bet they did not do it intentionally. Maybe they realised two cores were pretty much finished so had to put something more in?

Gawd knows. What I do know is that I would not give them the drippings of my armpits.
 
I agree with what you've said AlienALX. But, during all those years intel was more expensive and better, so they could get away with it. With Ryzen onboard i don't think intel will have that much fun in coming months. More and more people will go for much better price/performance of AMD.
 
Avet said:
I agree with what you've said AlienALX. But, during all those years intel was more expensive and better, so they could get away with it.
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No they weren't. The original slot Athlon and the Thunderbird and so on were far better than anything Intel were selling. Netburst was fail. Amazing Intel even survived those years tbh.
 
AlienALX said:
No they weren't. The original slot Athlon and the Thunderbird and so on were far better than anything Intel were selling. Netburst was fail. Amazing Intel even survived those years tbh.
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When you go that far back yes you are right. But Intel had contracts with IBM and many partners at the time. All offices around the world had Intel CPUs in their PCs. That helped them survive customer market fail.
 
I'm not worried (but disappointed):

1. Intel has some of the finest engineers who tested both;
2. The products will run as specified and better.

Think some more about the matter before going straight to bashing ;)
 
The F34R Channel said:
I'm not worried (but disappointed):

1. Intel has some of the finest engineers who tested both;
2. The products will run as specified and better.

Think some more about the matter before going straight to bashing ;)
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You should think. Because that is not the point here. They are charging insane prices yet end up lowering the quality of the product. Nothing else matters. We pay more for the X CPU. Yet now the quality is lower and equal to a regular Z CPU.
 
NeverBackDown said:
You should think. Because that is not the point here. They are charging insane prices yet end up lowering the quality of the product. Nothing else matters. We pay more for the X CPU. Yet now the quality is lower and equal to a regular Z CPU.
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How many good ideas, and inventions were ruined by accountants... It will continue.
 
NeverBackDown said:
You should think. Because that is not the point here. They are charging insane prices yet end up lowering the quality of the product. Nothing else matters. We pay more for the X CPU. Yet now the quality is lower and equal to a regular Z CPU.
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I do think that's the point as I see it. Many are jumping straight to conclusions while we haven't seen a single review yet. I'd like to see those first before I form my conclusion. Of course I'm disappointed as well, however I prefer to have all the facts first is all.
 
People are quick to assume that using TIM rather than solder is a cost cutting exercise. There could be other practical/engineering reasons why they are using TIM instead of solder. I have heard it argued by engineers that soldered IHS can suffer from the repeated heating and cooling cycle and degrade over time. Granted, Intel could use a better TIM as many common products are better than what Intel has used on the last generation. I will wait to see what the CPU is like when released and when someone manages to delid the IHS.
I have delidded every Intel processor i have had for quite a few generations now and replaced the TIM/solder with liquid metal which is far superior to both in my experience
 
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