Intel Core i7 7820X Skylake X Review

Bartacus said:
That's the one caveat at being stuck at lower RAM speeds. Your OC will likely work a LOT better. My R7-1700 is a dud unfortunately it seems. Won't even be stable at 3.8Ghz without insane volts. Yet at stock 3-3.2ghz, it just sips voltage, run cool as a cucumber, etc. But the jump to 3.7+ requires such a huge voltage jump that I'm not sure it's worth it.
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A lot of the reviewers were easily able to hit 4Ghz on their chips, but that's a lot harder to achieve for the average consumer. Some were able to hit 4.1Ghz as well. That's just not indicative of real world scenarios. Most will top out at around 3.9Ghz, and that's with a good chunk of voltage.
 
tinytomlogan said:
What about it?
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Oh that intriguing bomb hint you dropped at page 1, and like I said I may have misunderstood you in thinking you meant to hold off of 6/12 CFL-S for the gaming rig but instead you may have meant the 7820X I mentioned above it in the same post.

I know I'm playing with fire and don't wish to annoy you - it's just that I can't help myself :D We all know what it's like :D
 
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The F34R Channel said:
Oh that intriguing bomb hint you dropped at page 1, and like I said I may have misunderstood you in thinking you meant to hold off of 6/12 CFL-S for the gaming rig but instead you may have meant the 7820X I mentioned above it in the same post.

I know I'm playing with fire and don't wish to annoy you - it's just that I can't help myself :D We all know what it's like :D
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Youre just reading into what I said and making things up in your head :p
 
tinytomlogan said:
Youre just reading into what I said and making things up in your head :p
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Ha ha ha absolutely! It just took off in my mind (I'm very good at driving myself mental lol)! Your message was cryptic enough to intrigue me all over the place. It was like this: Eyeing the 7820X for months for the new gaming rig and being left disappointed but well informed after your review of the chip in regards of gaming. All good right? Absolutely! It made go look again at 6/12 CFL-S instead. Then saw your post and was puzzled, fearing that it won't be good for gaming either (against all more logical expectations) and my thinking "Okay, now what?". :p ^_^
 
I read some blurb via a link on OCN to some Italian (I think!) website that stated delidding these CPUs wouldn't help with high temps, because the issue is the gap between the IHS and the TIM. Not sure if that's true at all, but I have been reading a lot about high temps on these chips, even with good water cooling. I wonder if there's some truth there.
 
Bartacus said:
I read some blurb via a link on OCN to some Italian (I think!) website that stated delidding these CPUs wouldn't help with high temps, because the issue is the gap between the IHS and the TIM. Not sure if that's true at all, but I have been reading a lot about high temps on these chips, even with good water cooling. I wonder if there's some truth there.
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Yeah, it happened in the past.
 
j1975 said:
I was considering waiting on Z370...but have heard reports that it will be delayed until 2018. Would you suggest waiting for Z370, or just go with Z270 for now?
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Depends what you have now and if you have faith on what might come later :p
 
j1975 said:
I was considering waiting on Z370...but have heard reports that it will be delayed until 2018. Would you suggest waiting for Z370, or just go with Z270 for now?
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There no truth to that rumor (it's made up by a poor quality 'news' site): the 95W K parts were brought forward to August alongside Z370, while the 65(-)W parts will release H1: 2018 alongside Z390 (=Z370 but with integrated Wi-Fi and USB 3.1 if memory served me right).

My advice would be to wait for August's Z370 and CFL-S. And even if multiple sources are wrong, what's a few weeks waiting?

@ TTL; I hope you meanwhile received your remaining HEDT CPUs and Intel hasn't cut you off after your video.
 
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Bartacus said:
I read some blurb via a link on OCN to some Italian (I think!) website that stated delidding these CPUs wouldn't help with high temps, because the issue is the gap between the IHS and the TIM. Not sure if that's true at all, but I have been reading a lot about high temps on these chips, even with good water cooling. I wonder if there's some truth there.
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This is discussed numerus places. The glue used to glue the IHS to the pcb is of a curtain thickness. And they can't make it thinner, due to the production method.
The stock Intel TIM is acutally quite good, but there is a (on my memory) 0,06mm gab from the die to the IHS.
Some have tested it, with layers of paper, to make the thickness the samme as with glue, using premium paste, and the test showed very close to the same temps.
When delidding the glue is removed, so the gab is close to 0 + the use of liquid metal instead of a paste = -15-20c
 
I think it's best folks let go of this tease Tom let slip. Whether he posted it as a troll, it was a mistake he wants to back out of, or whether he's waiting for the right time, just let it go. If he can say it and he wants to, he'll say it. If it's something important and he can say it, I trust that he will. But if he doesn't, that's his prerogative.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
I think it's best folks let go of this tease Tom let slip. Whether he posted it as a troll, it was a mistake he wants to back out of, or whether he's waiting for the right time, just let it go. If he can say it and he wants to, he'll say it. If it's something important and he can say it, I trust that he will. But if he doesn't, that's his prerogative.
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Well tbh... you did kinda hype it up to be something really massive... overly so:p
 
So it's the best Rendering + gaming CPU right ?

As a hardcore Gamer and also Architect this i7 7820X should be the best choice right ? I'm doing a lot of 3D rendering which I could do faster with an 8 cores like the R7 1800X, but also gaming a lot and aiming for 4K, which would be better with an i7 7700K...

Does this combines the 2 in your opinion ?

Thx for the review ;)
Cheers
 
If you don't mind spending a lot of money on the setup, yes, Skylake-X is the best performing CPU for both of those tasks. The X299 platform can be a bit confusing due to the way its features depend on the CPU used but you've come to the right forum for those questions as well.

But, 4k gaming is often actually less dependent on your CPU's single-threaded power, so Ryzen would probably be a better deal.
 
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