AlienALX
Well-known member
It is yes.
Intel Coffee Lake i7 8700K Review
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It is yes.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Yeah, it is by far the best I have ever had. I don't think I will upgrade for quite some years to come actually. Never had success like this before and far surpasses my volt vs clock on my 2500k.
3570k and 4790k i had were terrible overclockers for me, and that is the only reason why I did upgrade albeit not much gain in performance.
3rd times a charm as they say.
Yes it is. long story short is another example
Actually I don't think that qualifies as an oxymoron. It's when you put two words together that dont go together, or contradict like a compressed paradox. e.g long recess, little giant, liquid metal, etc
My favourite one I hear that makes me want to slap the person is when they say "we are alone together now" #cringe
I'm seriously funny today right?
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TheF34RChannel
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Regarding the new socket explanation I would like to add this:
Asus Interview: Andrew Wu (ROG Motherboard PM)
Source: Bit-Tech
"Prior to the launch of Intel's Z370, Asus invited us to its UK offices to get a taste of the new motherboard range and to help us understand how it would be marketing its four main motherboard brands now (ROG, Strix, TUF, and Prime)."
"We also had the opportunity to sit down and chat with Andrew Wu, product manager for ROG motherboards at Asus. We want to extend a special thanks to Andrew for putting up with us and our questions; he was battling a sore throat induced by too many back-to-back presentations but was cordial and patient nonetheless. Thanks, Andrew!"
Source link: https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1/
Asus Interview: Andrew Wu (ROG Motherboard PM)
Source: Bit-Tech
"Prior to the launch of Intel's Z370, Asus invited us to its UK offices to get a taste of the new motherboard range and to help us understand how it would be marketing its four main motherboard brands now (ROG, Strix, TUF, and Prime)."
"We also had the opportunity to sit down and chat with Andrew Wu, product manager for ROG motherboards at Asus. We want to extend a special thanks to Andrew for putting up with us and our questions; he was battling a sore throat induced by too many back-to-back presentations but was cordial and patient nonetheless. Thanks, Andrew!"
[*8-core Coffee Lake-S or perhaps Ice Lake-S?]
Source link: https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1/
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
But isn't Z390 going to be for the 8-core CPUs?
TheF34RChannel
New member
I see no reason why 8C parts wouldn't work on Z370. Z390 is more about bringing new features to the chipset than anything else.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
OK, that makes sense. So it's sensible in that case for Coffee Lake to be on a new motherboard if the new motherboard power management features are absolutely essential for the 8-core parts. While the 6-core parts could work on Z270, the 8-core parts won't, so Intel's thought process is to just start fresh now.
Or they could just give consumers the choice to stick with Z270 for Coffee Lake and then force them to upgrade if they want an 8-core.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yeah but they won't will they?
8 phases is enough for 8 core CPUs. My old Crosshair FZ was 8+2 and coped admirably with a 250w (when OC) CPU. Most Z270 boards are 8 phase.
Knowing Intel Z390 will have the 8 core and they will want people to upgrade again.
Mind you, tbh any one who upgrades their CPU that often really needs to have a word with themselves any way. Even *I* upgrade every two years (that's the soonest) and usually 3-4.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
3-4 years is enough for a CPU, yeah, unless you're heavily dependant on your CPU in your job. I'll probably be upgrading my 1600X within two years because the 1600X is not quite the CPU I want and I know AMD will deliver what I want if given enough time, but once I have that CPU I can't see myself upgrading for a long time again. The 8700K is pretty close to the perfect CPU, and Z370 is a nice platform, but I'd rather play the waiting game with AMD than the money game with Intel.
TheF34RChannel
New member
That's what I'm thinking as well. Two CPU families/iterations per chipset as per usual.
Well some like to play with new stuff which is fair enough. Personally I only upgrade my CPU out of neccesity, albeit something broke or I need more grunt. So not that often: Pentium 4 HT > E6600 > Q6600 > 2600K > 6600K > 8700K > Tiger Lake-S/Sapphire Rapid(?).
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Actually I don't think that qualifies as an oxymoron. It's when you put two words together that dont go together, or contradict like a compressed paradox. e.g long recess, little giant, liquid metal, etc
My favourite one I hear that makes me want to slap the person is when they say "we are alone together now" #cringe
I'm seriously funny today right?
An oxymoron doesn't have to be two words together. It just refers to a figure of speech
TheF34RChannel
New member
Checked expected delivery dates and my heart sank at both the elusive board and 8700K. Aside from crazy prices the Apex shifted from this week to the last of October and the CPU from the week after to 28 November. These are still probably guesses by the site so reality is much worse. Getting frustrated here. What's the point Intel, of launching vapour ware, if only you'd just waited until Q1: 2018 and had proper inventory built up.
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Ahh, that sucks. I know why Intel did it—to undercut Ryzen before Christmas—but it's so frustrating for those left waiting for what are excellent CPUs.
TheF34RChannel
New member
It sucks for sure! I think they might slip into next year for us here across the pond, absurd. Basically no one, except a handful of people, on the globe has one. Skylake launch was terrible, this is just...a nightmare which isn't helping Intel with all the hate it's getting. And I'm pretty sure my tiny Netherlands isn't a priority whatsoever...
TheF34RChannel
New member
Ehm just got a shipped notification for the CPU 
Since there's no Apex boards I think I'll need to go with the Hero as that's the only board in stock or wait until November...
Since there's no Apex boards I think I'll need to go with the Hero as that's the only board in stock or wait until November...
TheF34RChannel
New member
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Well, that was quick. Ha!
Congrats man, you've obviously been looking forward to that thing. Hope it ends up being worth the wait!
TheF34RChannel
New member
Ha ha thanks guys! We'll the shop said they didn't know and then I got this today, a nice surprise!
No Apex but have a hero incoming.
No Apex but have a hero incoming.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I guess you'll have a... hero... to save you after all.
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