I am thinking about getting a Titan for a 4770k build

well i can tell you now that the titan is litrally what 200 points better & sometimes worse than the 780 tom covered it in his reviews,

my brother has both he sold his titan and bought 2x 780s he has a haswell rig & x79 rig it didnt make any difference what so ever on his benchmarks until he went to extreme resolutions... then it was even closer like litrally 10 to 20 points difference... his 4770k is only at 4.5ghz too was at 4.8 but he lowered it due to the heat in the uk at the moment....

oh and note nearly all his game benchmarks and a few of the others i.e cinebench/catzilla/unigine heaven/valley his single 780 out scored his titan... it was only when he went to 4k res that the titan made a difference with the extra memory...

i hope that was what you was looking for...
 
2011 and 1150 are both fine. Theres a HUGE difference in price though.


TBH mate your questions screen n0000b because you are being very vague.

I don't think I am too much of a n0000b

This is one of my rigs I use for gaming and benching, your video for fitting waterblocks and backplates to Titan's I found very useful.:)


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My original question was genuine, I have a lot of fun using X79 for multi GPU setups but for a single card X79 is not that good.

At some point I want to build a watercooled 4770k/Titan system and what I need to know if someone knows is will the extra efficiency of the 4770k help or will the lack of overclocking headroom hinder things.

I have not seen any benches for the Titan on Haswell compared to other setups.

Has anyone used a Titan on Haswell here.
 
Yep me.

And that hosing doesnt say you have very high standards tbh.

And n000b can mean many many things and the questions you are asking imply you either cant read or dont know much.


2011 and 1150 will get MASSIVELY different benchmark scores so you need to be a touch more specific in your needs or we cant actually answer you properly without making huge assumptions.


Also.......... Silicone lottery.
 
If you bench a Titan on Heaven 4 for example using x79 and then use the same card on a 3770k setup you can expect to see a small but significant increase in the score (about 80 to 90 points) due to the better efficiency. What I need to know is what sort of increase if any can be had going to a 4770k compared to the other platforms.

As to the tubing it is very much a WIP I still have to fit a chiller in there when I get the time.

I also built the rig with performance in mind rather than appearance, now if you had commented on the cooler scheme I would not have had an answer as it is not good.:D
 
What people are trying to ask is what is it going to be used for, bragging rights on forums, or from rendering or gaming or simulation etc...
Just saying PERFORMANCE does not help you sound like Jeremy Clarkson always saying POWER!!!
 
Tell us EXACTLY what the rig is/will be used for and we can tell you what we believe is best for you. If all you are trying to achieve is the best possible benchmark scores at the highest res then i believe a 4770k/Titan setup is what you will want.

If you want to be sensible with your money and build an insane machine where benchmarks will be v close to Titan and in games you will get little to no difference and in some case better fps then get a 4770k with a 780.

If you insist on spending the amount of money a Titan costs however then I would suggest you go with dual 780s as you seem to have far too much money.

However despite what i've just said, OC3D is a review site and you could take the time to read the reviews and watch the videos. Tom did literally JUST do a video comparing titans to 780s
 
End of the day matey if you want the same pointless bullshit responses youll get on other forums fine.

If you want us to HELP then we just need more details because we do things a bit differently round here.

Yes it may seem harsh but its just the way it is, those that can hack it love it and are part of the furniture.
 
What people are trying to ask is what is it going to be used for, bragging rights on forums, or from rendering or gaming or simulation etc...
Just saying PERFORMANCE does not help you sound like Jeremy Clarkson always saying POWER!!!

I think I mentioned benching several times.

It is not about bragging rights, on some of the forums I use, Titan owners are quite common, give overclock.net a visit.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1363440/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-owners-club



Tell us EXACTLY what the rig is/will be used for and we can tell you what we believe is best for you. If all you are trying to achieve is the best possible benchmark scores at the highest res then i believe a 4770k/Titan setup is what you will want.

Not necessarily the highest resolutions all the time but you have the gist of it.

I just wanted to know how much better/efficient a 4770k is compared to older CPUs when using a Titan. Perhaps this could be the basis of a future review that Tom could do. He could use a difference card if he wanted like a GTX 780 and run it on all the common CPUs/mobo's to show the difference in the various setups.
 
I just wanted to know how much better/efficient a 4770k is compared to older CPUs when using a Titan. Perhaps this could be the basis of a future review that Tom could do. He could use a difference card if he wanted like a GTX 780 and run it on all the common CPUs/mobo's to show the difference in the various setups.

This would be a huge waste of time as the only people that would even really need/benefit from that knowledge would be serious benchmarkers plus how would you judge what overclock to put on the cpu e.g. 4.5 on a haswell isn't the same as 4.5 on Ivy/Sandy. In GRAPHICAL benchmarks your biggest contributor to points is going to be your GRAPHICS CARD.

If you insist on knowing the effect cpu, motherboard, ram have on graphical benchmarks then use sites like HWBot and analyse other benchmarkers results. Don't expect Tom to spend his days doing ridiculous tests for little to no gain.

At the end of the day when it comes to BENCHMARKING and by that I don't mean the most sensible purchase or what will do you best in games but in Benchmarking then just buy the best of everything and chances are you'll get 2 points more than the guy who spent 800 quid less than you
 
This would be a huge waste of time as the only people that would even really need/benefit from that knowledge would be serious benchmarkers plus how would you judge what overclock to put on the cpu e.g. 4.5 on a haswell isn't the same as 4.5 on Ivy/Sandy. In GRAPHICAL benchmarks your biggest contributor to points is going to be your GRAPHICS CARD.

If you choose unwisely when it comes to CPU/mobo's this can have quite a dramatic effect on the fps in games. I have not read many of the threads here but I would not be surprised if one of the more common ones is "will my new graphics card be bottlenecked by my CPU". This is a subject that all gamers should know more about.

Thankyou to everyone who has tried to help me

I think I had best stop here
 
Kaapstad;667372[B said:
]If you choose unwisely when it comes to CPU/mobo's this can have quite a dramatic effect on the fps in games.[/B] I have not read many of the threads here but I would not be surprised if one of the more common ones is "will my new graphics card be bottlenecked by my CPU". This is a subject that all gamers should know more about.

Thankyou to everyone who has tried to help me

I think I had best stop here

Lmao you really think a motherboard or RAM will have a dramatic effect on games? Motherboard has no affect except on the Overclocks. Ram only helps APUs.

Now to clear some things up...Any 4 core intel CPU(from sandy and up) will not bottleneck any GPU on the market. This is a subject many noobs need to understand.

Hope this helps.
 
Maybe listing the benchmark tools you will be using would be helpful.

As Ukgouki said some benchmarks performed better with the single 780 over the titan.
 
Lmao you really think a motherboard or RAM will have a dramatic effect on games? Motherboard has no affect except on the Overclocks. Ram only helps APUs.

Are you talking about the amount of RAM? Because that obviously affects performance.
 
Are you talking about the amount of RAM? Because that obviously affects performance.

No but 4gb is still enough. I've never used more than 3.7gb of ram while running any game. Speed doesn't do really anything. Unless you're running an apu.
 
Lmao you really think a motherboard or RAM will have a dramatic effect on games? Motherboard has no affect except on the Overclocks. Ram only helps APUs.

Now to clear some things up...Any 4 core intel CPU(from sandy and up) will not bottleneck any GPU on the market. This is a subject many noobs need to understand.

Hope this helps.

Who mentioned Ram ?

I know it was not me.

I also note you have quoted intel quad cores, that leaves an awful lot of CPUs, I think you have made my point for me.
 
Who mentioned Ram ?

I know it was not me.

I also note you have quoted intel quad cores, that leaves an awful lot of CPUs, I think you have made my point for me.

I mentioned ram because you want as far to say as the motherboard makes dramatic fps differnces when that's insane. it has effects on the overclocks not the score. So therefore i mentioned ram to point out something else you probably thought was true and absurd.

You said CPUs have dramatic performance changes in benchmarks. I stated any 4 core cpu from sandy bridge and up will have very minor differences. Your points are invalid.
 
No but 4gb is still enough. I've never used more than 3.7gb of ram while running any game. Speed doesn't do really anything. Unless you're running an apu.

+1

I recently ran the Tomb Raider benchmark for someone to show this. In the first run I ran the bench with the memory @2400mhz 9-11-11-25 1T 96 and the CPU @4.9 the graphics cards was left at stock. In the second run the memory speed was dropped to 1600mhz with the timings unchanged (pretty slack for 1600mhz).

The result was the bench actually ran a tiny bit faster with the memory @1600mhz. So faster memory will not run games faster.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=24579581&postcount=7
 
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