HT bus

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How does the HT bus work for overclocking on A64s. I was bearly able to get any ocing on 1000mhz. When I changed it to 800mhz I easily made a 400mhz oc.
 
you can consider the HTT the same as the FSB on intels. If you jumped straight to 1000MHz I am guessing that your computer was not stable. try going up in smaller increments and then when it is not stable you can try upping the vcore.
 
Heheh, not the htt, I meant the hyperstranport bus. I read about it a while ago, but I don't remember how it works. I just remember people having it at 600 and 800 mhz.
 
Socket 939 systems have a one way HTT bus of 1000 MHz. While Socket 754's have 800MHz one way.

When overclocking, either of these systems can get very unstable when passing that original threshold (1000 for 939, 800 for 754)

When overclocking either socket A64...most overclockers will suggest lowering the HTT multiplier to 2 or 3 just so that the HTT bus does not become a limiting factor when overclocking.

It adds a twist to traditional overclocking, but is easily overcome.
 
Yeah I finally read that some where. Lots of people still use different terms all over for this crap, from what I've read: ht bus/htt multiplier is communicator to motherboard, htt/fsb/htt bus is communicator to memory.
 
This limiting factor also greatly depends on your motherboard... Some mobo's just don't like to clock higher than 1000 and is CRUCIAL to lower ur htt in order to achieve a stable overclock.

I didn't have to lower my HTT from 5 to 4 until I hit 265fsb and eventually had to work down to an HTT of 3 when running at 300mhz 1:1.
 
never let the hyper transport go over 1000 on 939's or 800 on 754's cause usually only a few MHz over these figures will cause instablity and so screw ur ocin!;

the hypertransport is bacically the connection to your non integrated (to southbridge) components includin the PCI bus (but not PCIe or AGP) so usually lowering the hypertransport speed has little impact on system speed (esp if the system is oced) unless your ht nus is saturated!
 
sai_jao said:
never let the hyper transport go over 1000 on 939's or 800 on 754's cause usually only a few MHz over these figures will cause instablity and so screw ur ocin!;

the hypertransport is bacically the connection to your non integrated (to southbridge) components includin the PCI bus (but not PCIe or AGP) so usually lowering the hypertransport speed has little impact on system speed (esp if the system is oced) unless your ht nus is saturated!

Again this is all subject to what kind of components you have... I can gleefully run mine at 1200mhz :D
 
mine's at 1600 mhz with my 3200+ at 2.5 ghz stable. I guess I could lower it to get more stability out of the system, but I don't want to go over my nice 34C/54C idle/load temps with stock fan.
 
^^1200 not uncommon (u must have xcellent components and that processor must be exceptional go u!!)

^^1600 ?? usure thats not the 'ddr' speed cause its not that i dont doubt ya (i dont) but @ 2.5 given the fact that 1600 is equal to 3200 Mhz 'ddr' (a full 1200*/600 over what amd can make reliabily) so thats excessiviley high (but all rights u shouldnt b able 2 boot)

what i said were guidelines and given @ actual MHz not the ddr some quote
 
I got my ht bus on 800 mhz (1600 mhz net), that's what I thought you were talking about. I haven't been able to get over 2.5 ghz stable though so maybe I should lower it to 1200. I just thought the 2.5 ghz limit was from my budget motherboard.
 
as far as I can tell .... the rule of the thumb for ocing an athlon 64 is

Anything below 260 mhz FSB ( of HTT as people call it sometimes ) LDT speed should be 4x. Above that put LDT at 3x . It does not affect performance by much. U wont even feel the difference in performance. Just keep FSB x LDT value below or near 1000.

As in 260 x 4 = 1040 ( possible with a good board )

but 300 x 4 = 1200 ( NEVER possible )

thus 300 x 3 = 900 ( barely if any drop in performance )

Hope this answers ur question.
 
|3ourne said:
as far as I can tell .... the rule of the thumb for ocing an athlon 64 is

Anything below 260 mhz FSB ( of HTT as people call it sometimes ) LDT speed should be 4x. Above that put LDT at 3x . It does not affect performance by much. U wont even feel the difference in performance. Just keep FSB x LDT value below or near 1000.

As in 260 x 4 = 1040 ( possible with a good board )

but 300 x 4 = 1200 ( NEVER possible )

thus 300 x 3 = 900 ( barely if any drop in performance )

Hope this answers ur question.

300x4 never possible my ass... Come take a look at my computer :jerkit:
 
name='FragTek' said:
300x4 never possible my ass... Come take a look at my computer :jerkit:

I guess ur a lucky person then .

:bootyshak

I still really dont care much for LDT speed since i have noticed NO improvement with a higher LDT , except lowering it gives me stability.
 
|3ourne said:
I guess ur a lucky person then .

:bootyshak

I still really dont care much for LDT speed since i have noticed NO improvement with a higher LDT , except lowering it gives me stability.

Well it's not really luck... Most people should be able to run 1200 stable given ur on an nforce or radeon chipset.

1600 is straight bogus, i need some screenies of that crazy shit. I :worship: anyone running 1600.
 
Personally LDT bus is something i really dont get a rat's ass about as long as its 3x ( not lower ) . Real world performance has HARDLY , if any , affect with a lower LDT bus . Its on AUTO right now on my NF4 but A64 Tweaker tells me that its at 3x , so w/e the mobo feels best for its stability.
 
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