how can i watercool my rig?

what is your location?

my location is in the UK , leeds.

The Corsair 800 would be a good choice for more room. The 900 due soon would be my first choice if you can afford it.

Check out a great source called Frozen CPU.

thank you but frozen cpu is mainly an american company i don't mind ordering overseas but just costs that bit extra . also i looked at the 900 and i know its really good , but i dont like how it looks, also the same with the 800. thank you as well :)

also for water cooling should i , as a fist time water cooler, buy something like this ? http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop...WaterCooling-Kit--NexXxoS-XT45-pid-17309.html
with all nessasery parts in it already? thanks
 
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also where can i get tubing from? most likely clear tubing? thanks :)
i am able to spend a quite large amount of money for the water cooling and case.

Since you're living in the UK I would suggest specialtech, or aquatuning. I've mostly used Aquatuning for my watercooling supplies in the past few years, and have been quite happy with their service. They really have a tight grip on their logistics; if I order something and pay in the evening it has always been shipped the next day (provided everything is in stock).
I've also ordered from specialtech a few times over their eBay shop; always great service.

also would you suggest anything like these sort of things, obviously not this one but i mean like a kit with mostly all of it in ?

also for water cooling should i , as a fist time water cooler, buy something like this ? http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop...WaterCooling-Kit--NexXxoS-XT45-pid-17309.html
with all nessasery parts in it already? thanks

Well the components in these kits are the same ones you can also buy separately, so quality is identical, and often you get a slight price advantage over buying everything separately. However, I have two reasons that have so far deterred me from buying a kit:
  • pump
  • pump-reservoir combinations

Clarification: Often, such as with the kit you've linked, the kits come with either a DDC pump, or something else. I would highly recommend the D5 vario over the DDC or any other pump. There are kits that come with a D5 pump, such as this one, but then I'm stuck with another problem: the bay-reservoir-pump combination. These combos appear to have the following problems from what I've read (never had one myself, for exactly these reasons):
  • a tendency to leak (the seams appear to be tricky quality-control-wise and crack quite often),
  • they do not dampen the pump very well, or at all.

A few more remarks on the pumps: The DDC is a good pump, but it can be a pain to dampen correctly and has a tendency to vibrate quite a bit more than the D5. Also, it runs hotter, and depending on the version, an additional air heatsink is sometimes recommended. Some people have said that its sound, even when dampened sufficiently, is louder than the D5's. I don't know about that since I've never had a DDC. I do have two D5's and can tell you that on setting 3 of 5 on rubber dampeners I cannot hear them outside the case at all.

I also forgot to mention the XSPC RX radiator series in my previous post. They are also excellent, however a bit more costly than the Alphacool ones.

If you're concerned about forgetting something when buying separate components you can easily post your buying list before purchasing and ask if you've forgotten anything. And even if you've forgotten something and the rest of us overlook it as well: That's just part of watercooling; it happens :rolleyes:.

Reading material: Martin's Liquid Lab. The watercooling review site. There's also Skinnee Labs, but it hasn't been updated in a while. The information is still good though.
 
one of the main reasons i was thinking of getting some sort of kit is because i don't know what like things i need i know i need tubing, liquid, reservoir, pump, radiator, cpu water block, gpu water block+ back plate. and then therese fittings , but i dont know what fittings i need? i want like black fittings because my mobo is black and red and i want red coolant. thanks :)
 
one of the main reasons i was thinking of getting some sort of kit is because i don't know what like things i need i know i need tubing, liquid, reservoir, pump, radiator, cpu water block, gpu water block+ back plate. and then therese fittings , but i dont know what fittings i need? i want like black fittings because my mobo is black and red and i want red coolant. thanks :)

Well you have the main things covered, only things I'd add to that list are fans :). You don't necessarily need a backplate for the GPU, although they do make things better looking.

Regarding fittings: When I'm totally unsure how to loop up a system I usually order a first batch, consisting of radiators, fans, blocks, some tubing, pump, reservoir and liquid. Basically everything besides the fittings and the things i forgot or don't yet know I need.

Then I put everything together and see how best to lay out my loop and what fittings I need for that, after which I order those fittings.

If I already have a good idea what fittings I'll need I just order them in the first batch as well, possibly one or two spares in case I change plans or something doesn't work quite like I expected.

Aquatuning carries some black fittings (also in other sizes). As for coolants, here is their red selection. I do not have personal experience with any of those (been using Aquacomputer's clear for the past few years) so I can't really say which ones are any good. Just note that Mayhem's Aurora is not intended for long-term use but more for show, and there have been some problems with Mayhems Pastel cooling (search this forum, or Google, shouldn't be hard to find).

In my years of watercooling, I've found that patience really is a virtue. Don't hasten things, take your time planning and setting everything up and you will be fine. It's not really that difficult, just a bit overwhelming for first-timers. Once you have everything in front of you, you'll see that it's pretty much just plugging things together and working with care so as to avoid leaks. The rest is just fine-tuning.
 
yeah i was reading about the mayhem's aurora so i was staying clear of that something that i liked was http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

also yeah sorry the fans as well, if i was getting a 3x120 rad , would it be advisable to get 6 fans? the fans i was looking at are the these noctua fans http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NF-F12PWM-Case-Fan-120/dp/B00650P2ZC/ref=pd_bxgy_computers_text_y

would they be easily paint able or is there something cheeper, better, in red? :) thanks !
 
yeah i was reading about the mayhem's aurora so i was staying clear of that something that i liked was http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

As far as I know that should work ok.

also yeah sorry the fans as well, if i was getting a 3x120 rad , would it be advisable to get 6 fans? the fans i was looking at are the these noctua fans http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NF-F12PWM-Case-Fan-120/dp/B00650P2ZC/ref=pd_bxgy_computers_text_y

Excellent choice. Whether or not you need (well, need is relative, let's say "can make use of") 6 or 3 depends on your radiator. If you get something like a XSPC RX or an Alphacool XT45 or XT60, 6 fans would only bring a slight improvement (the NF-F12 are very good radiator fans with good pressure) for a lot more cost.

However, if you get something like an Alphacool Monsta (the 80mm thick radiators) or a high density radiator like the Hardware Labs GTX360, push/pull would be advisable/could bring measurable benefits.

Basically, a radiator's resistance depends on fin density and its thickness. Most 60 mm radiators these days are not very high density (b/w 7 and 13 fpi) and don't profit massively (still somewhat, but not enough to justify the cost imho, especially with fans as expensive as these) from push/pull.

would they be easily paint able or is there something cheeper, better, in red? :) thanks !

I would advise against painting (at least the impeller, the frame is no problem). If you paint the impeller you will throw off its balance and that would not be good (vibration, noise, damage to the bearing etc.).

See here for a possible alternative.
 
I would advise against painting (at least the impeller, the frame is no problem). If you paint the impeller you will throw off its balance and that would not be good (vibration, noise, damage to the bearing etc.).

See here for a possible alternative.

okay thanks for that i will take that into account when buying fans etc, ill make sure i get some dye or something to do them with.

However, if you get something like an Alphacool Monsta (the 80mm thick radiators) or a high density radiator like the Hardware Labs GTX360, push/pull would be advisable/could bring measurable benefits.


also for the radiator i was thinking of something like:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

or something like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

would i need to get 6 fans or only 3?
also i want black compression fittings not really likeing the look of the little plastic clamps! thanks
 
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If it was my own system I would run the RX360 with 3 fans and the Monsta (which is 80 mm thick) with 6 fans. The 60mm version of the Alphacool I actually have myself and am running it with 3 fans.

also i want black compression fittings not really likeing the look of the little plastic clamps! thanks

See my previous post where I've linked Aquatuning's black compression fitting selection for 16/10. They also come in other sizes. Performance-wise there isn't really a difference. They're mostly made from brass and then painted black (except Primochill which make some plastic ones). So just pick the ones you like.
 
so would you say the nzxt 810 switch
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

with the 120x3 XSPC Xtreme Radiator RX360 - 360mm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

then 3 noctua fans:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NF-F12PWM-Case-Fan-120/dp/B00650P2ZC/ref=pd_bxgy_computers_img_y

also Primochill Myriad Dual Bay Reservoir with Laing D5 Housing : Clear
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

then Mayhems X1 Premix Fluid for Water Cooling 1 Litre : BLOOD Red / UV Red
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

i don't know what pump i should get , any ideas?

also i wont know what fittings i will need until i put the cooling in my rig.

also clear tubing:
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop...---58-OD-10-16mm-Tubing--Clear-pid-11319.html

also is this cpu block anygood ?
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop...U-Intel-Waterblock--UC-1-Intel-pid-17079.html

thank you have i forgotten anything? thanks
 
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not knocking the primochill.. but id opt for the Raystorm CPU block and XSPC
hi-flex tubing and why not the XSPC D5 derlin bay res.. you pretty much have the
XSPC Raystorm RX360 D5 kit. other than fans.. can be ordered with compression
fittings to boot (good fittings). like this: LINKY
 

Avoid that tubing like the plague

not knocking the primochill.. but id opt for the Raystorm CPU block and XSPC
hi-flex tubing

The XSPC tubing seems to be fine with some coolants but from what I've read and seen, is not very good with Mayhems as far as leeching goes.

Primochill's Pro LRT is some of the worst tubing on the market, it clouds up within days of installation (mine and many other's experiences)

However, Primochill's Advanced tubing is some of, if not the, best tubing on the market. Not soft, but super bendable w/o kinking and afaik has no problems with clouding or plasticizer build up.

Plasticizer build up is a big issue with tubing these days, and Masterkleer, Tygon, and Primochill Pro LRT are some of the biggest offenders. Tygon has non-plasticizer tubing, but it still clouds. Lots of people on other forums recommend Durelene, which is cheap and doesn't build up plastizer, but it still clouds over time.

Sorry for the rambling, but I just want the OP to be aware of how critical tubing is to a good, maintenance free loop.
 
My recommendation would be to contact Bryan or Steve at Swiftech...their products are extremely reliable and they will let you know EXACTLY what items you should get and how to connect everything!
 

Looks ok.

also Primochill Myriad Dual Bay Reservoir with Laing D5 Housing : Clear
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

If you really like that one it should work ok. This is however a reservoir which takes one D5 pump (link). Be aware that, as mentioned, mounting the pump to a bay reservoir is a bit sub-optimal regarding vibrations.
For possible alternatives (with and without pump mounting options) see here.
For decoupling (if you don't mount the pump to a bay reservoir), use one of these. I can recommend the shoggy sandwich and Aquacomputer's yellow decouplers from my own experiences.

then Mayhems X1 Premix Fluid for Water Cooling 1 Litre : BLOOD Red / UV Red
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1HVS4RF533X76

Should be ok.

i don't know what pump i should get , any ideas?

D5 vario, for link see above. If you don't mount the pump to the reservoir directly, I recommend either a version with preinstalled custom top or getting a custom top to mount to it yourself. A custom top makes it a lot easier to mount fittings to the pump and improves performance somewhat. But it is not strictly necessary, you could also get the pump in a stock version. I myself am currently running my D5's with this top.

Naturally, if you get a reservoir to which you can mount your pump directly or a pump top, you only need the pump motor, such as this one (has no rpm signal) or this one (has rpm signal).

also i wont know what fittings i will need until i put the cooling in my rig.

If you watch Tom's video on the 810 you might get a pretty good idea though. It's not like you have to reinvent the wheel for every loop ;).


See njallday's remarks for that one.


I've found a few reviews of the LT version (almost the same). Flow restriction appears to be on the higher side, but performance seems satisfactory.
HardOCP
Computerbase (in German, but the graphs should be self-explanatory). If you do need some help with translating let me know.
Overclock.net

thank you have i forgotten anything? thanks

I think you have the most important stuff covered. Now it's just a question of refinement.

not knocking the primochill.. but id opt for the Raystorm CPU block and XSPC
hi-flex tubing and why not the XSPC D5 derlin bay res.. you pretty much have the
XSPC Raystorm RX360 D5 kit. other than fans.. can be ordered with compression
fittings to boot (good fittings). like this: LINKY

Valid point. Apart from fittings and fans, this would be a very viable alternative to your selection.

Sorry for the rambling, but I just want the OP to be aware of how critical tubing is to a good, maintenance free loop.

Well we are here to exchange knowledge and experiences, right? Otherwise what's the point of an online forum? :)

I had to take quite a long break from fiddling with my PC due to military, work and college (still had my PC under water and did maintenance and stuff, just couldn't keep up with current trends) and have been running Primochill's Pro tubing (in black and white versions) for the past few years without problems (with Aquacomputer's clear coolant).

So I for one am quite grateful for any info on this. I was aware of some problems but since I've not done a new build (let alone with clear tubing) and the PC Pro has been working so far I hadn't really looked into this much further. :)
 
okay so now im contemplating http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=15994

what sized tubing should i buy? also , i was thinking do you think i should go with the red liquid and clear tube or , red tubing and then get black liquid? or clear liquid ? thanks

also are you meaning this tubing? http://www.amazon.com/PrimoFlex-Advanced-2in-4in-Tubing/dp/B00A93CSZS/ref=pd_cp_pc_0

where could i get the tubing from in the UK because i looked on the amazon site, and it only sells it in the USA? thank you for all the help so far!
 

I think that's a good choice. You'll probably want to turn down the pump because mounting it directly to a reservoir that's mounted into the 5.25" slots does not decouple it very well and it's overpowered for a CPU only loop anyway (meaning it provides enough headroom for adding GPU blocks and/or additional radiators). But it's a good package imho.

what sized tubing should i buy? also , i was thinking do you think i should go with the red liquid and clear tube or , red tubing and then get black liquid? or clear liquid ? thanks

Well, the kit you linked above comes with 2 m of clear tubing. So you could run the Mayhems X1 blood red (or some other red coolant) with that. This mostly comes down to personal preference I suppose (as long as you avoid the Mayhems Pastel problems).

also are you meaning this tubing? http://www.amazon.com/PrimoFlex-Advanced-2in-4in-Tubing/dp/B00A93CSZS/ref=pd_cp_pc_0

where could i get the tubing from in the UK because i looked on the amazon site, and it only sells it in the USA? thank you for all the help so far!

Yes, that's the good Primochill tubing. I haven't been able to find it anywhere here either though :(.
 
Well, the kit you linked above comes with 2 m of clear tubing. So you could run the Mayhems X1 blood red (or some other red coolant) with that. This mostly comes down to personal preference I suppose (as long as you avoid the Mayhems Pastel problems).
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Okay thanks :)

also the 2m tubing , is that any good stuff or would you recommend something else that i can actually get in the uk haha :) it was either get clear tubing and red coolant or get red tube and clear or black coolant ? :) thanks
 
Okay thanks :)

also the 2m tubing , is that any good stuff or would you recommend something else that i can actually get in the uk haha :) it was either get clear tubing and red coolant or get red tube and clear or black coolant ? :) thanks

I have found this thread in which it's said that the tubing that comes with the kit is not as good as the regular tubing that XSPC sells. I don't know/haven't checked how much truth is to that statement but I wouldn't be surprised if it was correct.

I suggest looking at njallday's post from further up in this thread and following that advice. I'm not an expert on transparent tubing, my apologies.

You could of course get red tubing and clear coolant, which is probably the less troublesome route. I've yet to hear of someone having serious trouble with clear coolant, and even though I've been running the bad Primochill tubing (in black and white) with clear coolant (Aquacomputer) for a few years now I've never had trouble with it. But as I mentioned above, transparent tubing is a slightly different animal.
 
Yes, i was mainly thinking about now, getting red tubing , and clear coolant, but i dont know any good, red tubing, everything seems to be uv tubing or something, and from what ive heard the uv stuff is bad for like clouding and discoloring and the only thing ive heard good things about is the primochill Advanced and, at this moment intime im not sure you can get it in the UK so thats a downer, and need some alternative any suggestions :) thanks
 
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