Help with upcoming system.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I have actually. Yes i do know abou runt frames, but honestly with that much horsepower it really is not a big deal. Their new drivers will fix this so no point in avoiding them anyway. Nvidia have this issue as well but to less of an extent.
alienware
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TBH that's putting it about as nicely as you could possibly put it.
Back on planet earth however -
1. When the runt frames and dropped frames are removed, in over 50% of the titles tested, you get single card performance. Worse than that however is that you are now experiencing a problem that you don't get on one card making the Crossfire X set up worse than using a single card.
2. These majestically mythical drivers are not even on the horizon yet and are not due to be released for at least another 2-3 months.
3. Nvidia have the issue but they have hardware aboard their cards that takes care of the problem so that by the time those frames reach you the impact of the runt and dropped frames is so small you won't ever notice it. In near on every title tested there was no difference between the FRAPS fps and the actual/observed FPS.
I am a Nvidia fanboy and I am an Nvidiot but the above is just fact atm, fanboy/idiot or not. Right now Crossfire X is just a complete waste of money and will net you nothing but problems overall.
They've known about this since the dawn of time. However, they haven't been forthcoming about it for the obvious reason. If you were honest and you told people what they were getting with Crossfire X (like really getting ) then you lose a sale to every person who wanted to run two cards.
Over the years those who were honest with themselves realised something was amiss and broken and stopped using Crossfire. Those who chose to ignore the stuttering and just smash out benchmarks stuffed their fingers in their ears over this issue and pretended it isn't happening, calling conspiracy theory ETC.
Most of the people here have been willing to accept this data (scientific data of course) as fact and thus have been a reasonable part of the conversation but sadly some just don't want to accept it or just say it's not a big deal.
It is a big deal. Ignoring it won't do any one any favours. All we care about here as enthusiasts is seeing it fixed and it has nothing to do with brand loyalty.
I really don't understand why people would choose to ignore this when if they make a loud enough noise AMD will have to fix it
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I do understand it but you make it out as if it's the worst possible thing on earth. I feel it's to over used for an argument on Amd vs Nvidia. I'm more biased towards Amd but i still do accept some advantages Nvidia has. I want it fixed better than Nvidia did but we can only hope the new 8xxx cards can in fact do this with onboard support or driver supoprt. Maybe even both?
alienware
Banned
I'm not biased even though I love Nvidia cards (well, more importantly the drivers). If you take a look at my GPU history thread you'll see I've had tons of AMD/ATI cards.
TBH? it is really bad. Like, really, really bad. Crossfire has basically never worked properly from the outset and people have spent loads of money on a second card only for it to hurt them.
That is a really bad situation.
Apparently AMD are now looking into implementing it via hardware but only because of what's been discovered.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Well i will believe it if i could see when it actually started and not when it was discovered with this Gen(7xxx).
Well this has turned into one long debate 
But would i not be able to simply run something like a 610 as an add in card, just for extra displays. I've heard of people using cards like nvidia and amd together just for extra displays, providing they weren't used for gaming you were fine. And since the 610 would be controlling the 2 accessory monitors, as in, no gaming, i cant imagine there would be issues. But id rather not spend money on something that wont work.
But would i not be able to simply run something like a 610 as an add in card, just for extra displays. I've heard of people using cards like nvidia and amd together just for extra displays, providing they weren't used for gaming you were fine. And since the 610 would be controlling the 2 accessory monitors, as in, no gaming, i cant imagine there would be issues. But id rather not spend money on something that wont work.NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Do you really even need 4 screens? Or is it something you think is cool and will actually help your gaming? If that is the case then it is not worth the hassle...
