SmoulderingCircuits
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Theres not much else they could do with a Pentium II tough
They could enjoy Mafia Wars in all it's glory.
Future oriented computer.
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They could enjoy Mafia Wars in all it's glory.
sheroo
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I know you're planning an SB-E build, so you've probably justified the cost to yourself a fair few times.
SieB
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I know you're planning an SB-E build, so you've probably justified the cost to yourself a fair few times.For me personally, I would rather have a mid range system that lasts me about 3 years.
I'm not doing a SB-E build, I wish I could afford a SB-E build but I don't have the money for it either. This year is going to be a hard year for me money wise, the only thing I have my eyes on is a Cosmos II, a new GPU, water cooling and upgrading to Ivy bridge.
I already have most of the stuff for water cooling and I can sell my 2500k to make up most of the money for an Ivy Bridge CPU and I already have the money for a Cosmos II i'm just waiting to see if prices drop and what happens with the windowed version. The only thing that is really going to cost me really is a new GPU.
SmoulderingCircuits
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I'm not doing a SB-E build, I wish I could afford a SB-E build but I don't have the money for it either. This year is going to be a hard year for me money wise, the only thing I have my eyes on is a Cosmos II, a new GPU, water cooling and upgrading to Ivy bridge.
I already have most of the stuff for water cooling and I can sell my 2500k to make up most of the money for an Ivy Bridge CPU and I already have the money for a Cosmos II i'm just waiting to see if prices drop and what happens with the windowed version. The only thing that is really going to cost me really is a new GPU.
Well if all goes well you might be able to get a fair amout of performance out of the next APUs and a mid range card
fredtrix
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I already have most of the stuff for water cooling and I can sell my 2500k to make up most of the money for an Ivy Bridge CPU and I already have the money for a Cosmos II i'm just waiting to see if prices drop and what happens with the windowed version. The only thing that is really going to cost me really is a new GPU.
Same here, I really look forward to Ivy bridge. Although I'm still rocking my 1156 rig! At the desktop that is.
sheroo
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I'm not doing a SB-E build, I wish I could afford a SB-E build but I don't have the money for it either. This year is going to be a hard year for me money wise, the only thing I have my eyes on is a Cosmos II, a new GPU, water cooling and upgrading to Ivy bridge.
I already have most of the stuff for water cooling and I can sell my 2500k to make up most of the money for an Ivy Bridge CPU and I already have the money for a Cosmos II i'm just waiting to see if prices drop and what happens with the windowed version. The only thing that is really going to cost me really is a new GPU.
Sorry dude, I knew you were planning on buying the Cosmos II, I just had it in my head that you were going for SB-E. I can't really justify spending anymore money on my setup as I can't really max out what I've got, as I don't play games much. I've got a couple of builds I'm planning and some cosmetic changes to make - but I'm gonna start a new thread for that this week some time.
Nice chattin' with you btw - very civilized.
SieB
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True but I won't hold my breath. Will be interesting to see what happens though.
Ivy will be a decent upgrade from 1156.
Sorry dude, I knew you were planning on buying the Cosmos II, I just had it in my head that you were going for SB-E. I can't really justify spending anymore money on my setup as I can't really max out what I've got, as I don't play games much. I've got a couple of builds I'm planning and some cosmetic changes to make - but I'm gonna start a new thread for that this week some time.
Nice chattin' with you btw - very civilized.
No probs will look forward to seeing your thread.
nex-s
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One thing though SieB - you say current 1055 socket CPU's will have to be sold for cheap while the 2011 socket ones could be sold for normal prices in the future. However, the 2011 ones cost twice as much. The thing is, it is always more expensive to buy and replace hi-end stuff. Just as cars. Once it rolls out of the shop it loses ~20% of its value...
But if not taking economical factors into account here then you're totally right, SB-E is the most future proof as you'll be able to keep your motherboard. Won't talk more about future proof stuff, but can share my dream build which I'll probably be building when Ivy Bridge rolls out. Why Ivy Bridge now in a few months and not SB-E? Just cause I can't afford SB-E. Almost 500 pounds for a cpu? Sorry, no. So here's what I will probably get when the time comes (take into account that I don't have a rig right now cause I came to study to Glasgow in 2010 and have to use a laptop for now, haha) -->
Case: CM Storm Trooper or CM Cosmos 2, if the price drops a little bit
PSU: 95% chance it will be a Corsair AX850
MB: One of the Asus ROG ones, at the moment I'm looking at Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z
CPU: The 2700k replacement whatever was its name, can't remember of the top of my head
RAM: 16Gb Corsair Vengeance
GPU: Was thinking of Asus Matrix gtx 580, but now will probaby get the next generation reference card...
HDD: 2x Corsair Force GT 60Gb in RAID0 and an additional 1 or 2TB HDD for storage
Now, if I have enough money by then, I'll probably just go with Cosmos 2 case. In that case, I'll watercool everything. The idea is (and I still have to get some advice from Coolermiester) to get 3 rads in, which should be an overkill but totally future proof in case of getting a second GPU, which I probably wont. A 360 rad in the top. Not a 480 cause I don't have a dremel and don't really want to do those kind of things to a 350 pound case. Not that I couldn't do it properly, but I just can't force myself to cut things like that. Am thinking of getting a 420 in the top maybe, if it fits, but would have to ask Coolermiester on the mods that have to be done then. Two 240 rads in the bottom.
The idea with the 240mm rads is as follows - there would be a dual bay res in the top of the case, from that te tube goes into the top rad, the from the top rad into the CPU, then GPU, then there is a 45 degree Bitspower fitting that directs the tube from the GPU through the floor to one of the 240mm rads. Now I would have to get 2 different rads for this to work. One of them probably would be Hardware Labs XFLOW 30mm thick rad with tube exits on both ends (one at each end). So from the GPU the tube goes into a simple thicker EK or XSPC (or whatever really) rad, then beautifully straight into the XFLOW one, and then comes out near the front. A hole would need to be drilled in the floor in the middle of the top HDD bays for the tube to come out. So the XFLOW rad feeds the tube straight up with a 90 degree fitting through the hole and straight into Laing D5 pump which would be mounted between the top HDD bay walls. 2 or 3 of the HDD bay plastic fittings will be removed depending on the space required, and then the tube just goes to the top res somehow again.
Something like that, hope you understood. A loop like that would look and be just amazingly tidy, although I still have to think of the filling and draining solution. Also the top rad could be X-FLOW, but the really I don't know how it would be possible to fill drain my system, cause I'm ne to watercooling. Any suggestions? Cause the tubes everywhere would be quite short in this case and there wouldn't really be enough space to fit those quick release fittings...
Also, as far as I understand the X-Dock stuff is just two Sata 3 6Gb wires taken to the top and that's it? In that case both SSD drives would be put there and run in RAID0 as I said. The HDD at the top middle HDD bay and the Laing D5 underneath it. This is also good cause the front fan would then cool the pump.
So something like that. Any suggestions, advice?
(Sorry for the off topic...)
But if not taking economical factors into account here then you're totally right, SB-E is the most future proof as you'll be able to keep your motherboard. Won't talk more about future proof stuff, but can share my dream build which I'll probably be building when Ivy Bridge rolls out. Why Ivy Bridge now in a few months and not SB-E? Just cause I can't afford SB-E. Almost 500 pounds for a cpu? Sorry, no. So here's what I will probably get when the time comes (take into account that I don't have a rig right now cause I came to study to Glasgow in 2010 and have to use a laptop for now, haha) -->
Case: CM Storm Trooper or CM Cosmos 2, if the price drops a little bit
PSU: 95% chance it will be a Corsair AX850
MB: One of the Asus ROG ones, at the moment I'm looking at Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z
CPU: The 2700k replacement whatever was its name, can't remember of the top of my head
RAM: 16Gb Corsair Vengeance
GPU: Was thinking of Asus Matrix gtx 580, but now will probaby get the next generation reference card...
HDD: 2x Corsair Force GT 60Gb in RAID0 and an additional 1 or 2TB HDD for storage
Now, if I have enough money by then, I'll probably just go with Cosmos 2 case. In that case, I'll watercool everything. The idea is (and I still have to get some advice from Coolermiester) to get 3 rads in, which should be an overkill but totally future proof in case of getting a second GPU, which I probably wont. A 360 rad in the top. Not a 480 cause I don't have a dremel and don't really want to do those kind of things to a 350 pound case. Not that I couldn't do it properly, but I just can't force myself to cut things like that. Am thinking of getting a 420 in the top maybe, if it fits, but would have to ask Coolermiester on the mods that have to be done then. Two 240 rads in the bottom.
The idea with the 240mm rads is as follows - there would be a dual bay res in the top of the case, from that te tube goes into the top rad, the from the top rad into the CPU, then GPU, then there is a 45 degree Bitspower fitting that directs the tube from the GPU through the floor to one of the 240mm rads. Now I would have to get 2 different rads for this to work. One of them probably would be Hardware Labs XFLOW 30mm thick rad with tube exits on both ends (one at each end). So from the GPU the tube goes into a simple thicker EK or XSPC (or whatever really) rad, then beautifully straight into the XFLOW one, and then comes out near the front. A hole would need to be drilled in the floor in the middle of the top HDD bays for the tube to come out. So the XFLOW rad feeds the tube straight up with a 90 degree fitting through the hole and straight into Laing D5 pump which would be mounted between the top HDD bay walls. 2 or 3 of the HDD bay plastic fittings will be removed depending on the space required, and then the tube just goes to the top res somehow again.
Something like that, hope you understood. A loop like that would look and be just amazingly tidy, although I still have to think of the filling and draining solution. Also the top rad could be X-FLOW, but the really I don't know how it would be possible to fill drain my system, cause I'm ne to watercooling. Any suggestions? Cause the tubes everywhere would be quite short in this case and there wouldn't really be enough space to fit those quick release fittings...
Also, as far as I understand the X-Dock stuff is just two Sata 3 6Gb wires taken to the top and that's it? In that case both SSD drives would be put there and run in RAID0 as I said. The HDD at the top middle HDD bay and the Laing D5 underneath it. This is also good cause the front fan would then cool the pump.
So something like that. Any suggestions, advice?
(Sorry for the off topic...)
fredtrix
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It's all right, this thread kinda drifted along anyway =]
SieB
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Midrange parts don't hold their value, they are always sold for a much lower price where as high end parts will hold most of their value and when it comes to selling them you can still make most of your money back. Compared to how much money you would make back off a midrange part you will always make more back from high end parts, not because they cost more but because they hold their value for longer.
For watercooling check out this thread I put together
http://forum.overclock3d.net/index.php?/topic/37973-a-guideintroduction-into-watercooling/
Also watch all of TTL's vids where he does watercooling like the HafX G1 Assassin build, the Gadget Show Live buillds eg Snowdrift and Shadow H20 and his beginners guide to watercooling. I have linked most of the vids in the thread I posted but if they are not in there you can find them on the youtube channel.
dipzy
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im still rocking my i7 920 and rampage II from the time when it was released, my reference asus 5870 i got that a week after it came out, still going strong. With a few tweaks and upgrades, i could easily get a few more years out of the system. Gaming is is fine too, yes im not able to max them out to get the highest FPS i can but im still able to get very good playable frame rates from crysis, metro 2033, BF3 just to name a few. I know they can play better, but with no lag yet still visually good looking im happy.
If you can afford to upgrade you can, if you can't then getting something like SB-E now and using it until 2011 replacement comes out is money will spent to me, again it comes down to budget, if SB-E it not an option, go for 1155 SB and then go ivy bridge, cheaper and it will also last you a couple of years.
This is what i think of future proofing, some may agree and some may not.
If you can afford to upgrade you can, if you can't then getting something like SB-E now and using it until 2011 replacement comes out is money will spent to me, again it comes down to budget, if SB-E it not an option, go for 1155 SB and then go ivy bridge, cheaper and it will also last you a couple of years.
This is what i think of future proofing, some may agree and some may not.
