EVGA Motherboards ARE Good!

KapteinFruit

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Well, I just thought I'd make a thread about this. I read a comment by Tom where he said that EVGA is not a good motherboard brand and he had good reasons for it, but I've had my EVGA Classified 200 for a while now and it's the best motherboard I've ever had. It's good for over clocking too. I got my i5-750 stable at 4,02Ghz and my Mushkin Redline RAM at 2010MHz 8-9-8-24 so I think it's a good motherboard. Only complaint I got on it is that it's getting a bit outdated because of lack of SATA III (Yes, not SATA 6GB/s, it's SATA III!) and USB 3.0. But it will at least last another year before I feel the need for SATA III and/or USB 3.0. Anyways, my question is why does people say EVGA is a bad choice for motherboards? I say that Asus is a bad choice for motherboards because I and my brother had shit tons of problems with my old and his current Asus Crosshair IV Formula. I couldn't over clock at all on it. My brothers motherboard has gone mad. It lives a life on it own. Saying that he's using a different CPU then what he is. Random BSOD's and we've tried with different RAM and CPU's so we know the problem is the motherboard. So why does people say EVGA is a bad choice? I think I did a very good choice with getting the Classified 200.
 
Up to you really. You pays your money you makes your choice.

Be aware though that there are £70 motherboards (gigabyte micro) that can push the I5 750 equally as far and even farther.

Still I suppose if you are happy with it and happy paying the prices they command then good luck to you.
 
Up to you really. You pays your money you makes your choice.

Be aware though that there are £70 motherboards (gigabyte micro) that can push the I5 750 equally as far and even farther.

Still I suppose if you are happy with it and happy paying the prices they command then good luck to you.

It's true that EVGA is a little bit expensive. And the Classified 200 could possibly push another i5-750 much longer then mine. It could be that I got an average CPU, while some other might be a very good one. If I'd have another high end P55 motherboard to compare it too then we could see how the Classified 200 is. But I don't. And I will never get an Asus motherboard after what happened to me and my brother. I lost all my respect for them. They make good audio cards, though. I used to have a M4A78 and it was perfect, but the Crosshair IV Formula is a piece of trash.
 
ive owned 5 asus mobo's and they have always been good for me but there problem is bad bios support

Well, it came as a shock for me when both mine and my brothers motherboard were f'cked up. My old M4A78 was a rock solid board and I over clocked like crazy on it even though it's not a "gaming" motherboard. I just don't trust Asus anymore. So that's why I'm not getting another motherboard from them as long as I haven't had a first hand experience with one and it works fine.
 
ive got a gigabyte one just now and its excellent but i hate the bios on it but i would still go back to asus and i intend to with the r3e when ive got £320 to splash on it as my current mobo ram and cpu cost that kinda money together
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It could be that I got an average CPU, while some other might be a very good one.

I would seriously doubt that. The only time you will ever agree with Tom and I is when you get another board and see just what you have been missing.

Nobody will ever slate a product that they own and had to pay full price for. Ever. Well, I will, but I would soon replace any such part. I had an Evga 680i tri sli and even compared to a £60 MSI it was gash. Utter gash. I used the same CPU in both and ended up keeping the 680 but only because it had 6 SATA and 3 PCIE. As an overclocker it was OK but just OK. And at over £350? no thanks hank.

I don't see how slating the CHIV is going to help really. I mean firstly it's an AMD board (something EVGA wouldn't even try, infact they will probably be next down the bog after BFG) and secondly going from what I have read and seen here, fully documented, you are also wrong.

Honestly man, without wanting to sound rude or offensive it just seems to me that you are defending your board to ease your conscience. And that's fine, but I wouldn't really suggest doing it on a forum full of experts. I'm no expert but my EVGA was rubbish. Tom is though, and I am sure he could tell you a million reasons why EVGA are poo.

They only sell well because of how they look and the fact they are American made. As I said before the yanks love them and swear by them. But then they also drive Mustangs. Slow, heavy, handle like a spoon in a bucket of treacle and guzzle down petrol.
 
Aye the clock youve got is what Id expect mate, irs nothing amazing tbh. If you are happy thats all that matters.

But they have made some shockingly bad stuff in the last few years and their marketing from our point of view is terrible.
 
Well I have had two experiences. One with the 680i and it went a little something like this..

Firstly my E4500 was clearly documented at doing 3.2ghz. Which when you consider it's a 2.4ghz stock is at least what you could expect from any core 2 duo. I tried that on an MSI (little red one) and got it stable @ 3ghz. Problem was I needed 1066 ram to take it higher and didn't have any.

So I put it in the EVGA and stuffed the bus to 380mhz with the ram split and divided. It went to 2805mhz on the EVGA but that was it. I tried to push the FSB higher but then read that EVGA had a brick wall of about 385 and there was no getting over it. The most I could get was 2.9ghz but my CPU was really hot (and this was with the dual fanned Noctua NH92 on).

So I wound it back to 2.8 and left it there because at that time I had 6 SATA drives and needed to use all of them. That was the ONLY reason I did so.

Then a few months later I thought about upgrading my CPU. I mean, that's not too much to ask with a £350 motherboard is it? I then came to find out that my board was a Rev A and did not support 45nm quad core. So, I was left with either the E8400 (which wouldn't overclock as it should)or the Q6600.

E8400 was £120, Q6600 was £150. At a time when I could get a 3ghz 940 45nm for £120 that was far faster and cooler than the Q6600. I poked into it some more and it seems my board would support a QX6700 but all that was was a better die Q6600 with an unlocked MP, for £400. Haha ! yeah right !.

So that's when I decided the EVGA had to go. Oh, BTW, I did email their CS to see if there was anything I could do about it but they didn't even bother to reply. I emailed them three times and in the end I gave up.

So I sold it for £70 with the E4500 on because I felt bad and didn't want to rip off a mate.

And then there was my mate's 790i experience, which quite frankly was disgusting.

$450. Yes, you saw that right, $450 for nothing but a pile of BSODS. The poor bastard bought it on release (waited months for it, saved for ages) and right out of the box it was BSOD like mad. It took him three days of continually trying to install Vista OVER AND OVER before it finally stayed stable for long enough to get Vista on. Now I said back it so he phoned EVGA (who deal with all of this). They said it was his ram. Infact, they blamed it on everything BUT THE BOARD. So after many hours on the phone and setting up his ram (why doesn't the bios do it?) it was finally almost sort of somewhat stable. It still treated him to BSODS on a daily basis though.

About a year later (because he never bought a GPU because the machine was just too unreliable) I said that maybe now that it had been out for a bit we should try and get it stable. I dug around and found a bios for it that supposedly sorted all the ram issues. Wicked ! Tried to install it and got -

Sorry, the serial numbers do not match. Setup will now close, please remove all discs from the drives and reboot your machine. Setup will reboot in 10 seconds.

Eh? WTF? So we tried again. And again, with numerous bioses (there were no less than 12 by this stage) and every single one, even 1.1 said the same thing. Now *I* was at the point of forcing the bios on, but it's a good thing in hindsight I didn't.

I went off to EVGAs forums and asked in the bios release thread (posted by them) why this was happening. No response. Then three other people all had the same problem so they posted the same. No response. In the end I phoned EVGA personally (at international rates) and asked them what the fudge was going on.

And you will never, ever in a million years guess what they said !
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We are sorry to tell you this, but that board is a Rev A board. There were numerous problems with this and so we ended up replacing them.

Ah cool ! so my mate can get a nice spangly Rev B !..

We are sorry to inform you but your friend's board is no longer in warranty or supported, have a nice day.

But hang on a moment, every time he called you blagged him and told loads of lies..

So there. That's the two experiences I have had with EVGA, and both are utterly attrocious. The second one though? well, how I ever posted all of that without a single curse word is nothing short of a miracle.
 
I'm pleased with the EVGA classified I've got, but as you say we are unlikely to slate a product we actually bought. Evevryone around here will have a company that they've had a nightmare with. My nightmare company was Asus with the striker II Extreme (790i, awful chipset), which released rubbish bios after rubbish bios. Then before that there was the experience with the A8N-SLi deluxe where the chipset fan started whining, then screaming. phoned asus up, was told to go to a different department...in the end I gave up after 2 hours, and stuck an AMD processor fan over the NB. Annoying considering the board was in warrantee. And then the D2X debacle, where the sound card would randomly start looping sound.

Since that though, with the Crosshair IV, my views on asus motherboards has been rearranged. The A8N otherwise was an excellent board as well, and the 790i with a cheap processor in works fine. My point is that everyone has bad experiences with some companies, and the more expensive the product (i.e. EVGA products tend to be in this category), the worse you feel if there is a problem. If you had payed £60 for a gigabyte board and it stops working and the tech support guys tell you to go home, your only out £60, not £200.
 
To be honest no company other than one can be blamed for the 680i or the 790i. However, EVGA should have taken care of business considering it was them who could have sorted it before release. And to basically lie down the phone to him (because that's what they were doing, because he ONLY got OCZ because it was in the manual as approved) was just BS.

I read in PCzone a couple of years ago about some one having nightmares with a Striker 2. He ended up contacting Asus who let him return it for a different board.

Thing is Diablo as you have said, £60 for a board you'd be a lot less pissed off. Thing is though, EVGA charge more than any one else for a comparitive board. And do you get what you pay for? well you certainly don't in customer service nor are you guaranteed a good product.

That coupled with their quite frankly, bizzarre choice of bios has put me off for life.
 
I don't know, EVGA is no more expensive than Asus' ROG line or gigabyte's "9" series. The bioses tend to need getting used to, but on the other hand, at least they are updated more often than a certain other company, begining with A. Certainly I would now think very hard about buying another bleeding edge top of the line product. I probably still will, but the thought that in six months time there will be a cheaper board with almost as much stuff on it, and stuff that I want not extraneous "1337" overclockers stuff like voltage readout points and dry ice funnels, is pretty powerful.
 
I would seriously doubt that. The only time you will ever agree with Tom and I is when you get another board and see just what you have been missing.

Nobody will ever slate a product that they own and had to pay full price for. Ever. Well, I will, but I would soon replace any such part. I had an Evga 680i tri sli and even compared to a £60 MSI it was gash. Utter gash. I used the same CPU in both and ended up keeping the 680 but only because it had 6 SATA and 3 PCIE. As an overclocker it was OK but just OK. And at over £350? no thanks hank.

I don't see how slating the CHIV is going to help really. I mean firstly it's an AMD board (something EVGA wouldn't even try, infact they will probably be next down the bog after BFG) and secondly going from what I have read and seen here, fully documented, you are also wrong.

Honestly man, without wanting to sound rude or offensive it just seems to me that you are defending your board to ease your conscience. And that's fine, but I wouldn't really suggest doing it on a forum full of experts. I'm no expert but my EVGA was rubbish. Tom is though, and I am sure he could tell you a million reasons why EVGA are poo.

They only sell well because of how they look and the fact they are American made. As I said before the yanks love them and swear by them. But then they also drive Mustangs. Slow, heavy, handle like a spoon in a bucket of treacle and guzzle down petrol.

I wouldn't defend my motherboard if it was clear it's not worth the price. But that's the reason I made this thread. People say EVGA is crap, but I don't see why because I'm very pleased with it. I haven't had any problems at all either. But I can't really say it's good because I haven't tried any other motherboards for P55. (As I stated in the thread.) And the CHIV thing was to show how I feel about Asus. It didn't have anything to do with P55 motherboards in general. I was just saying why I don't want to try and buy a motherboard from a brand I don't trust only to maybe get burnt by them again. Understand my point? But as I said, I don't know how it compares to other motherboards for P55 so I can't really prove it. My point was to get some feedback on why EVGA gets bashed on when I haven't had any problems with it and it seems like a good over clocker to me.

Edit: I don't understand the MultiQuote thing. :S

So to all you other:

I can only say what I said to AlienALX. I am happy with my Classified 200. I haven't had any problems with it and it seems as it's an alright over clocker. However, I can't prove that EVGA is good because I have no other P55 motherboards in the same price range to compare it too. And I don't want to get something from Asus in the future because me and my brother got burnt by them with two of the same type of motherboards. Until I know I can trust them I won't touch their stuff. MSI is good, tho. I like them.
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There's the reason, you haven't had any problems with it. I don't doubt my current appreciation of the crosshair iv will come to a screeching halt when it falls over. When things are peachy, most companies are great, when things go ***s up then you discover what they are like.
 
There's the reason, you haven't had any problems with it. I don't doubt my current appreciation of the crosshair iv will come to a screeching halt when it falls over. When things are peachy, most companies are great, when things go ***s up then you discover what they are like.

Yeah, I think you're right. You only learn the hard way and I've learned not to get Asus until I know I can trust them without getting burnt. Maybe it's the same way with EVGA? I dunno. Only time will tell, I guess.
 
There's the reason, you haven't had any problems with it. I don't doubt my current appreciation of the crosshair iv will come to a screeching halt when it falls over. When things are peachy, most companies are great, when things go ***s up then you discover what they are like.

And that's bang on the nail IMO. Honestly, I pray no one here EVER has to try and deal with EVGA. Ever.

Sadly they have put out a lot of products with big problems.

Oddly I have had better service from Asrock than any other company (barring BFG). I mean what other manu would give up a bios youre not even supposed to be allowed to have?

I've had DOA everything and problems with every manu. God, I could sit here and tell you stories about QDI that would make your hair curl. Thankfully they went out of business (because that's what happen when you w**k) but god dang...

And Fujitsu? Dear oh lord. Many years ago we bought about 50 7.2gb hard drives that were known to fail. We just didn't get word. Sure enough 80% of them failed. I phoned the distro and they said "send them back and we will replace them". So I packed them up (about 10 in the end, rest were out of warranty) and they sent ALL TEN back saying they were physically damaged. When we looked them over some one had taken a screwdriver to the circuit boards
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Now I know effing A sure I packed them well. I put them in static bags and wrapped EVERY one of them in 1.5" thick foam. Taped them up, then put another static bag over.
 
From an end users point of view, I think it also depends what shop you bought it from as well in the case of hardware failiure. For instance when my striker ii bricked itself (really wierd, just refused to post one morning), microdirect did an exchange there and then on the day, but I've had a hard disk dissapear for nearly a month with a certain other (slightly more northerly) company.
 
And that's bang on the nail IMO. Honestly, I pray no one here EVER has to try and deal with EVGA. Ever.

Sadly they have put out a lot of products with big problems.

Oddly I have had better service from Asrock than any other company (barring BFG). I mean what other manu would give up a bios youre not even supposed to be allowed to have?

I've had DOA everything and problems with every manu. God, I could sit here and tell you stories about QDI that would make your hair curl. Thankfully they went out of business (because that's what happen when you w**k) but god dang...

And Fujitsu? Dear oh lord. Many years ago we bought about 50 7.2gb hard drives that were known to fail. We just didn't get word. Sure enough 80% of them failed. I phoned the distro and they said "send them back and we will replace them". So I packed them up (about 10 in the end, rest were out of warranty) and they sent ALL TEN back saying they were physically damaged. When we looked them over some one had taken a screwdriver to the circuit boards
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Now I know effing A sure I packed them well. I put them in static bags and wrapped EVERY one of them in 1.5" thick foam. Taped them up, then put another static bag over.

That's some story you got there. I had no idea Fujitsu would do something like that. Pretty shocking. As far as now I'm happy with EVGA because it's been going smooth as butter. I haven't had one single problem what so ever! I'm thinking about switching over to X58. I know it will not be worth it what so ever, but I feel a little urge to do so anyway. But that will take a good while if I decide to do it. I need a new case (Lian Li X500. I've made up my mind. Getting it!), another 5870 and another set of Mushkin Redline RAM. (For future. I mean, if I decide to switch to X58 I got enough RAM to fill three slots. And I'm thinking about starting to make videos and such too.) So after that I'll think about switching. By then the Sandy Bridge CPU's be out so I might switch to that if they turn out to be overclockable.
 
As I have had no problems with my classified, I wouldn't be too sure. The classifieds were about the best for clock speeds when they were new, however gigabyte's 7 series or asus' P6T series are also highly commended and a lot cheaper. Avoid the ROG series as they have a lot of pointless features and cost even more than the classifieds.
 
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