Conroe looks amazing
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Drazic
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Prettly low to be honest
Some guy in Germany has bought this off me now for a sweet price. My name and word spreads lie wild fire around XS yet i aint even a member yet
Some guy in Germany has bought this off me now for a sweet price. My name and word spreads lie wild fire around XS yet i aint even a member yet
Drazic said:
So no pics of the chip with ure name on a sheet of paper next to it, and stepping codes then??
Why do I smell something strange? I'm not saying your lying Drazic, I for 1 just do not believe you have any conroe stuff at all. If you want to dispute this post a pic with your name written on a piece of paper next to it, with the stepping CLEARLY visable.
I'm just fed up of people saying they have stuff, then saying it's sold without ever producing evidence. If I had a conroe chip, there'd be pics all over the place of my chip that's for certain!
Boardy
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I am reading a lot about conroe thus far this is what I have found:
1) It's blisteringly fast in non-multithreaded applications - due to using the full 4MB cache and having a smaller instruction pipeline than previous P4's.
2) Low power and low temps with no apparent sign of cold bug.
3) Rumours are rife though that in multithreaded applications performance is slower than x64 dual core, mainly due to the fact that the FSB is a bottleneck and that the 4MB cache is spread evenly then acrosss both cores.
4) The extreme edition will have a higher FSB which will in fact put it neck and neck with FX60 in multithread applications.
5) Normal Conroes willl hold a commanding lead in older 3d (3dmark 05, 01 and 03) so all of last years games will run faster on Conroe, but new ones with multithread enabled will be faster on an x2.
6) Extreme Edition chips with the higher FSB will be better than skt939 FX60 in most things.
7) There are some rumours about 64bit compatability issues, but just rumours AFAIK
So becuase it runs cooler and uses less power and no apparent cold bug, the Conroe will be the enthusiasts weapon of choice as the potential for 4ghz to be a normal overclock on these is more than possible and will probably be the average.
The AMD 65nm part for AMD needs to be here this year for AMD to compete, it's unlikely to be until Feb07 when we actually see it and tech details on this are thin on the ground.
I suspect the 1st generation will be a DIE shrink, meaning what? Well probable nothing more than higher clocks, maybe more cache lower power and heat output, cold bugged perhaps?
We will only know how well Conroe perfroms when we see head to head reviews - but if in fact the gap in realworld mutlithreaded applications is not as big as everyone hopes then a 65NM AMD part might just be enough for 2007 (although quad core is just around the corner then).
It's really exciting now, becuase we should be seeing performance from AMD/Intel and ATI/Nvidia, it's been a while and the choice of platform will not be one sided (three years of A64 domination) which should be better for the comsumer - Bring on the PRICE WARS!!!
1) It's blisteringly fast in non-multithreaded applications - due to using the full 4MB cache and having a smaller instruction pipeline than previous P4's.
2) Low power and low temps with no apparent sign of cold bug.
3) Rumours are rife though that in multithreaded applications performance is slower than x64 dual core, mainly due to the fact that the FSB is a bottleneck and that the 4MB cache is spread evenly then acrosss both cores.
4) The extreme edition will have a higher FSB which will in fact put it neck and neck with FX60 in multithread applications.
5) Normal Conroes willl hold a commanding lead in older 3d (3dmark 05, 01 and 03) so all of last years games will run faster on Conroe, but new ones with multithread enabled will be faster on an x2.
6) Extreme Edition chips with the higher FSB will be better than skt939 FX60 in most things.
7) There are some rumours about 64bit compatability issues, but just rumours AFAIK
So becuase it runs cooler and uses less power and no apparent cold bug, the Conroe will be the enthusiasts weapon of choice as the potential for 4ghz to be a normal overclock on these is more than possible and will probably be the average.
The AMD 65nm part for AMD needs to be here this year for AMD to compete, it's unlikely to be until Feb07 when we actually see it and tech details on this are thin on the ground.
I suspect the 1st generation will be a DIE shrink, meaning what? Well probable nothing more than higher clocks, maybe more cache lower power and heat output, cold bugged perhaps?
We will only know how well Conroe perfroms when we see head to head reviews - but if in fact the gap in realworld mutlithreaded applications is not as big as everyone hopes then a 65NM AMD part might just be enough for 2007 (although quad core is just around the corner then).
It's really exciting now, becuase we should be seeing performance from AMD/Intel and ATI/Nvidia, it's been a while and the choice of platform will not be one sided (three years of A64 domination) which should be better for the comsumer - Bring on the PRICE WARS!!!
Minstadave
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Conroe @3.1Ghz
16secs pi 1mb :O
16secs pi 1mb :O
Phil Stanbridge
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lol I've never seen a 16 seconds super pi before..
Minstadave
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name='Phil Stanbridge' said:
Its on air with a stock P4 cooler, nothing special at all. :dancing1:
Highland3r
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Probably going to get shot/hung/flamed for saying this but reading "around" I just can't help get the feeling its not going to be the "uber" cpu we all think and hope its going to be.
Ok, all well and good it's pulling some impressive numbers for the clockspeed in Pi's, 3dmarks etc but how about the real world performance...
Take Dothan for example, one might say its the "beta" version of Conroe/Mermom but the characteristics of the chips are similar. Short piplines and a hefty whack of cache. Dothan was up to now the CPU to have for Pi benchies and 3dmark01. Conroe looks to be the same... its putting out unseen numbers in pi, simply stunning! It's not doing too bad 3d wise either, super impressive. (Although some of the AM3 benchies the CPU score isnt that impressive....) However Dothan was pretty crap for general useage. Windows wise, ok it was quick but it was easily bogged down and multi tasked like a dog. In other benchies too, compared to A64 it sucked. 32m Pi for example was still the realm of the longer piped Intels and the A64's.
While Conroe has addressed some of these issues there are still areas it appears weak. (Many of these are the same areas as Dothan in fact)
Ok the chips going to be uber for 3d and certain 2d benchies but is that going to translate to all areas...? (Or to word it better, the areas that actually matter to "real" users....)
Ok, all well and good it's pulling some impressive numbers for the clockspeed in Pi's, 3dmarks etc but how about the real world performance...
Take Dothan for example, one might say its the "beta" version of Conroe/Mermom but the characteristics of the chips are similar. Short piplines and a hefty whack of cache. Dothan was up to now the CPU to have for Pi benchies and 3dmark01. Conroe looks to be the same... its putting out unseen numbers in pi, simply stunning! It's not doing too bad 3d wise either, super impressive. (Although some of the AM3 benchies the CPU score isnt that impressive....) However Dothan was pretty crap for general useage. Windows wise, ok it was quick but it was easily bogged down and multi tasked like a dog. In other benchies too, compared to A64 it sucked. 32m Pi for example was still the realm of the longer piped Intels and the A64's.
While Conroe has addressed some of these issues there are still areas it appears weak. (Many of these are the same areas as Dothan in fact)
Ok the chips going to be uber for 3d and certain 2d benchies but is that going to translate to all areas...? (Or to word it better, the areas that actually matter to "real" users....)
i hope not for long 
I've been reading about Conroe and it does look an amazing bit of kit there are some really good super PI times being stated:O
I think if AMD does not come back with something really strong they could be in for a ruff time, especially when the hard core enthusiatsts jump ship!!
I've never built an Intel system let alone overclocked one but i feel it won't be long before i find out!!!
I think if AMD does not come back with something really strong they could be in for a ruff time, especially when the hard core enthusiatsts jump ship!!
I've never built an Intel system let alone overclocked one but i feel it won't be long before i find out!!!
