Comp upgrading

[WC Annihilus]

Well, talking with |3ourne has thrown me into a turmoil of debate about upgrading.

He wants me to get:

DFI Lan Party UT nForce4 SLI-DR mobo ( http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc...de=M&Product_Code=110630&Category_Code=AMD939 )

2 gigs Patriot ( http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc...e=M&Product_Code=140291&Category_Code=DDR-PDP )

Tagan or OCZ Powerstream PSU ( http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc...&Product_Code=100346&Category_Code=ps-generic )

Thermalright XP-90C with delta fan (

Possibly 7800 gt

Possibly 3500+ with better core or higher.

Problems: Money and dad.

Your opinions on these parts? For the most part, my only real hope is getting huge price drop on the after Thanksgiving sale at CompUSA (really not sure how good they are supposed to be, already know that Best Buy one's are mad but can pretty much only get video card there) If I'm lucky, I might sell current mobo for $140-$150, memory $220-$250, Vid card for $260-$300, CPU for $170-$190...

 

[FarFarAway]

Hint: Never ever talk to |3ourne about your PC: he will make you spend huge amounts of money

I'd put a new CPU higher up the list. I would get a 3200+ if your going the way of Venice (OC the nuts off it). If 1mb cache: maybe an opteron 144 or even a 3700SD

The DFI board rocks. The Patriot is sposed to be good stuff. The 7800GT would rock. XP90c is pwnage, Tagan is very good.

There ya go. Can't tell you whether you CAN get them: just that all of them are decent choices

 

[bloodthirst]

thats a nice setup you have there mate

 

[ionicle_old]

Well, talking with |3ourne has thrown me into a turmoil of debate about upgrading.

He wants me to get:

DFI Lan Party UT nForce4 SLI-DR mobo ( http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110630&Category_Code=AMD939 )

2 gigs Patriot ( http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140291&Category_Code=DDR-PDP )

Tagan or OCZ Powerstream PSU ( http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=100346&Category_Code=ps-generic )

Thermalright XP-90C with delta fan (

Possibly 7800 gt

Possibly 3500+ with better core or higher.

Problems: Money and dad.

Your opinions on these parts? For the most part, my only real hope is getting huge price drop on the after Thanksgiving sale at CompUSA (really not sure how good they are supposed to be, already know that Best Buy one's are mad but can pretty much only get video card there) If I'm lucky, I might sell current mobo for $140-$150, memory $220-$250, Vid card for $260-$300, CPU for $170-$190...

Wel the SLI-DR is a good motherbord, but the SLI-D is better value for money, and the only difference is it dont have as many sata ports, but who needs 8 anyway...lol

u dont NEED 2 gigs of ram...but if you have to get 2 gigs then i would sugest maybe OCZ or GEIL

an OCZ powerstream PSU would be pritty cool, the targan is good aswell...but the differences are only mainly visual when it comes to PSU's but a modular one is a good idea...so thats up to you, take into acount both price and features when decidin upon a PSU

a thermalright XP-90c with a Delta fan...this would provide exelent cooling, but delta fans are far from silent...so think bout that before you buy it, do you want a fan that makes more noise than a rock concert.....lol

a 7800GT is a waste of money imo...wait til they have come down in price a bit...a 6800 - GT - Ultra is fine for the time being

as for a new processor, a 3700 would be the best upgrade for $ u could get as you double the L2 cache...you get 1mb instead of 512kb...or if you wanted somthing more upmarket, a 4000+...dont bother with the 3800+ as it only has 512kb of l2 cache...the better bet would be either the 3700+ or the 4000+

 

[|3ourne]

Wel the SLI-DR is a good motherbord, but the SLI-D is better value for money, and the only difference is it dont have as many sata ports, but who needs 8 anyway...lol

u dont NEED 2 gigs of ram...but if you have to get 2 gigs then i would sugest maybe OCZ or GEIL

an OCZ powerstream PSU would be pritty cool, the targan is good aswell...but the differences are only mainly visual when it comes to PSU's but a modular one is a good idea...so thats up to you, take into acount both price and features when decidin upon a PSU

a thermalright XP-90c with a Delta fan...this would provide exelent cooling, but delta fans are far from silent...so think bout that before you buy it, do you want a fan that makes more noise than a rock concert.....lol

a 7800GT is a waste of money imo...wait til they have come down in price a bit...a 6800 - GT - Ultra is fine for the time being

as for a new processor, a 3700 would be the best upgrade for $ u could get as you double the L2 cache...you get 1mb instead of 512kb...or if you wanted somthing more upmarket, a 4000+...dont bother with the 3800+ as it only has 512kb of l2 cache...the better bet would be either the 3700+ or the 4000+

1) SLI-DR is by the far the most stable ocing DFI NF4 . SLI-D is good as well. Its upto him how much he wants to spend.

2) Those Patriot 2gb kits have infenion ce-6 chips in them . The same ones that ocz and mushkin use for their 2 gb kits which are 50 dollars more . Patriot is a VERY good choice for 2 gb kit today.

3) I have said this a million times in the past and I will say it again today , modular PSU dont mean shit.

4) 7800GT is not a worthy upgrade ????? What are you smoking bro. I went from a 6800GT at 450/1150 to a 7800GT and the difference is QUITE obvious. And right now 7800GT is about 40 bucks more than the 6800GT , go figure which one is a better buy.

5) Why go with an Sandiego today when he can get an Opteron. Opterons oc better and are proving to be more and more consistent than the Sandys and have way better silicon. No brainer here actually.

Ionicle , I respect you trying to help the guy but please do some homework before you say something. Forums arent there to mislead people.

 

[ionicle_old]

1) SLI-DR is by the far the most stable ocing DFI NF4 . SLI-D is good as well. Its upto him how much he wants to spend.

2) Those Patriot 2gb kits have infenion ce-6 chips in them . The same ones that ocz and mushkin use for their 2 gb kits which are 50 dollars more . Patriot is a VERY good choice for 2 gb kit today.

3) I have said this a million times in the past and I will say it again today , modular PSU dont mean shit.

4) 7800GT is not a worthy upgrade ????? What are you smoking bro. I went from a 6800GT at 450/1150 to a 7800GT and the difference is QUITE obvious. And right now 7800GT is about 40 bucks more than the 6800GT , go figure which one is a better buy.

5) Why go with an Sandiego today when he can get an Opteron. Opterons oc better and are proving to be more and more consistent than the Sandys and have way better silicon. No brainer here actually.

Ionicle , I respect you trying to help the guy but please do some homework before you say something. Forums arent there to mislead people.

right...well 1)...the SLI-D offers better value for money, and is virtually the same as the SLI-DR

2)tbh 2 gig aint needed, but if you say thats the stuff to get i aont argur with you there

3)Modular PSU's are better than ordinary, it jsut depends what u want a PSU to be, if you want it to have to many wires then by all means go for a normal one, but if you want a neet and tidfy case without compremising performance then modular is the way to go

4)a 7800GT is an expensive upgrade, and not worth the performance compared with how much you pay for it...a 6800 would offer better performance per $ than a 7800 would...

5)i have never tried an opteron, so if you say they are good i wont argue with you here either...

but i was talking the truth, and i was also putting my opinion forward...so it wasent really misleading..

 

[Dav0s]

1) sli-dr offers more options for ocer's, but yes its all about how much u wanna spend

2) these days, 2gb is needed ionicle. mainly for gaming, but its a good thing to have.

3) modular psu's come with a performance loss, seriously trust me they do.

4) with 7800gt's for £225 i cant say that aint worth the money, they pwn 6800gt's for a little over £50 more, probs less

5) see bournes thread on his opty lol, speaks for itself.

 

[deepfried]

the only thign im going to say is the vid card..deffo a 7800gt, you get like 20 times bang for buck on those

and the 2 gig kit looks nice, and i suspect when the next mainstrem gen of games comes out its going to be 1 gig minimum, 2 gig recommended..thats going to be in about 6 months according to a friends brother who works for nvidia like quak 4 might be based on the doom 3 engine..but you can bet your going to need a next gen card or current gen sli to power it well, as well as that 2 gig of ram your getting, thats assuming your goign to be gamign at all

if you can afford all that stuff go for it :drool:

 

[bloodthirst]

Wel the SLI-DR is a good motherbord, but the SLI-D is better value for money, and the only difference is it dont have as many sata ports, but who needs 8 anyway...lol

u dont NEED 2 gigs of ram...but if you have to get 2 gigs then i would sugest maybe OCZ or GEIL

an OCZ powerstream PSU would be pritty cool, the targan is good aswell...but the differences are only mainly visual when it comes to PSU's but a modular one is a good idea...so thats up to you, take into acount both price and features when decidin upon a PSU

a thermalright XP-90c with a Delta fan...this would provide exelent cooling, but delta fans are far from silent...so think bout that before you buy it, do you want a fan that makes more noise than a rock concert.....lol

a 7800GT is a waste of money imo...wait til they have come down in price a bit...a 6800 - GT - Ultra is fine for the time being

as for a new processor, a 3700 would be the best upgrade for $ u could get as you double the L2 cache...you get 1mb instead of 512kb...or if you wanted somthing more upmarket, a 4000+...dont bother with the 3800+ as it only has 512kb of l2 cache...the better bet would be either the 3700+ or the 4000+

ionicle fucking hell, i think youve had enough flamming from bourne and Dav0s, but can you not spell properly honestly i have a delta fan and there like fucking amazing fans there performance makes up for the noise, 2gb of ram will soon become nessicary and why get 1gb when he will just have to get more later on, its called spending more to future proof your computer

 

[WC Annihilus]

Hmm, also opinions on 6800gt SLI versus 7800gt?

 

[bloodthirst]

Hmm, also opinions on 6800gt SLI versus 7800gt?

just get the 7800gt, 6800gt in SLi will be more expensive. cause then in the future if you want another 7800gt you can run even more powerful cards in SLi

 

[WC Annihilus]

And jus for the heck of sayin, 6800gt sli is cheaper? very unlikely, but ya never know with sales (after thanksgiving!)

 

[bloodthirst]

well on newegg you can buy an eVga 6800gt's for $289usd, to of those would be $578, and a BFG 7800gt arguably one of the most expensive cards is only $369

i never said 6800gt in SLi would be cheaper rofl?

 

[WC Annihilus]

nonononononoo!!!!!!!!!!! I meant, let's pretend 6800gt sli is cheaper man, not that it is. I'm askin what you would do IF it was cheaper. and there no way i'm upping at least till thanksgiving (after thanksgiving sale as i keep saying!)

 

[bloodthirst]

nonononononoo!!!!!!!!!!! I meant, let's pretend 6800gt sli is cheaper man, not that it is. I'm askin what you would do IF it was cheaper. and there no way i'm upping at least till thanksgiving (after thanksgiving sale as i keep saying!)

well if your on a budget then yeah of course i would get it cause it will be extremely powerful still, but if you could stretch a little furthur to the 7800gt then yepp i would go the 7800gt,

 

[NickS]

He already has a 6800GT, he's also in USA...not in Aus..

So prices r different.

I say go Sli, it'd be cheaper to buy another 6800GT.

 

[bloodthirst]

He already has a 6800GT, he's also in USA...not in Aus..

So prices r different.

I say go Sli, it'd be cheaper to buy another 6800GT.

hmm yeah but those prices up there are american rofl

 

[WC Annihilus]

What I would prolly do would be (at a nice sale anyway) either buy the 7800gt and sell the 6800gt, or buy 2 6800gt's, sell one of the new ones, and then pop in the other (or get lots of family members, buy whole bunch, then sell big profits mayb, heeh)

 

[|3ourne]

He already has a 6800GT, he's also in USA...not in Aus..

So prices r different.

I say go Sli, it'd be cheaper to buy another 6800GT.

without checking the prices , without laying ur statement on any base , why do you even post nicks ???

Say he sells his 6800gt today , gets about 250 for it. He adds another 100 bucks and gets an xfx / bfg / evga 7800gt for that money. Which will be FASTER than his sli , lower on the powerconsumption and heat his case lesser .

Now if he buys another 6800gt , his setup will be adequate for say another year at its best . He spends 289 today , for something which he will have to get rid of in a year's time at MUCH lesser price than what he can get for his 6800gt today. Then he dishes out MORE cash for a high end next gen card.

See the trend here ????

Not to mention he will have to spend 120 bux for a powerstream if he goes sli , rather than 78 for the tagan if he gets the 7800gt. So essentially 7800GT is a win win situation here . His parts are relatively new and can get him some decent money in the market today rather than almost nothing a year down the road. Its called keeping your losses limited.

 

[NickS]

without checking the prices , without laying ur statement on any base , why do you even post nicks ???

Say he sells his 6800gt today , gets about 250 for it. He adds another 100 bucks and gets an xfx / bfg / evga 7800gt for that money. Which will be FASTER than his sli , lower on the powerconsumption and heat his case lesser .

Now if he buys another 6800gt , his setup will be adequate for say another year at its best . He spends 289 today , for something which he will have to get rid of in a year's time at MUCH lesser price than what he can get for his 6800gt today. Then he dishes out MORE cash for a high end next gen card.

See the trend here ????

Not to mention he will have to spend 120 bux for a powerstream if he goes sli , rather than 78 for the tagan if he gets the 7800gt. So essentially 7800GT is a win win situation here . His parts are relatively new and can get him some decent money in the market today rather than almost nothing a year down the road. Its called keeping your losses limited.

You've got a point. I was just thinking 32 pipes vs 20 pipes, I guess, but yea, |3ourne's right.