Can some Audio Wizard help me with my setup please ?

[UKCurtis]

Can someone please help me I'm getting really depressed.

I have a Gaming pc and a Streaming pc. I game on my Gaming pc and the Streaming pc captures what im playing via the Avermedia live gamer HD so what the Streaming pc is doing is doing all my encoding for Xsplit so I wont have any FPS drops while playing games on my Gaming pc.

I hope that made some sense lol

You maybe thinking why do I even have a streaming pc I dont need people asking me that, I dont need those questions, The stream will look alot smoother and I wont have FPS drops while gaming that's why I got it also alot of the twitch streamers the pros you could say have Streaming pc's so yeah.


I built my Streaming PC yesterday and I just cant get the sound to work, Its really hard for me to explain my problem so I have created a video on youtube so anyone can look at it to see what I am missing or if anything is plugged in wrong please do say.

I have captured what Im playing on my gaming rig but no sound, I have a Logitech G930 wireless Headset. A mate told me to download 'Virtual Audio cable' and gave me a video to watch but that program is really confusing for me anyway and the video didnt really explain it very well....

If anyone can help me or give some guidance because I cant find any website or youtube video that really tells you what to do.


Here is the video where I explain it in much detail I know its long but for good reason -

 

[Edge]

You mean you are knowingly running your !!DVI!! video (from your "gaming PC" video card) into the Avermedia capture device, and you can't comprehend why your "streaming" PC can't magically detect the audio? Not to mention that your microphone will be handled completely separately to the game audio?

More money than sense.


I suggest looking for a Live Gamer HD firmware update that will enable HDMI audio passthrough. Then get rid of the DVI and use an HDMI out. DVI does not carry audio. Clue is in the name "Digital Visual Interface." If you can't, then use an audio cable from your PC to your Avermedia (Yeah, that's what the 3.5mm audio input is for).

Jesus.

 

[NeverBackDown]

You mean you are knowingly running your !!DVI!! video (from your "gaming PC" video card) into the Avermedia capture device, and you can't comprehend why your "streaming" PC can't magically detect the audio? Not to mention that your microphone will be handled completely separately to the game audio?

More money than sense.


I suggest looking for a Live Gamer HD firmware update that will enable HDMI audio passthrough. Then get rid of the DVI and use an HDMI out. DVI does not carry audio. Clue is in the name "Digital Visual Interface." If you can't, then use an audio cable from your PC to your Avermedia (Yeah, that's what the 3.5mm audio input is for).

Jesus.

Dude what's with the put down post? Could have explained this in a way more kind tone. He's asking for help and made a silly mistake, not like he threw in 4 titans or anything.

 

[Edge]

Dude what's with the put down post? Could have explained this in a way more kind tone. He's asking for help and made a silly mistake, not like he threw in 4 titans or anything.

Sorry, I'm no Saint Patience like yourself =p

I just find it hard to comprehend how people can through so much (excessively so) money at system and not even understand the most basic things. More money than sense gets under my skin xD

 

[jamesriley94]

You mean you are knowingly running your !!DVI!! video (from your "gaming PC" video card) into the Avermedia capture device, and you can't comprehend why your "streaming" PC can't magically detect the audio? Not to mention that your microphone will be handled completely separately to the game audio?

More money than sense.


I suggest looking for a Live Gamer HD firmware update that will enable HDMI audio passthrough. Then get rid of the DVI and use an HDMI out. DVI does not carry audio. Clue is in the name "Digital Visual Interface." If you can't, then use an audio cable from your PC to your Avermedia (Yeah, that's what the 3.5mm audio input is for).

Jesus.

Watch your attitude or you'll very quickly be shown the door.

No need for that at all.

 

[Edge]

Watch your attitude or you'll very quickly be shown the door.

No need for that at all.

It's not like I dropped a load of disrespect without offering assistance. A little tough love never hurt anyone. At least, I didn't intend to cause serious offence. My bad.

 

[barnsley]

ignoring the extra-system-in-the-room I'd suggest trying to use hdmi instead of DVI. That should stop the audio issues.

 

[UKCurtis]

ignoring the extra-system-in-the-room I'd suggest trying to use hdmi instead of DVI. That should stop the audio issues.

Yeah I need to sort out my Virtual Audio Cable I'm getting some help from another twitch streamer he is going to use webex basically teamviewer I think but thank you for your help, I really need help cheers mate.

This is what my mate said.

hey bud basically you need to send the audio down the hdmi cable that connects to your streaming pc so virtual audio cable will run on your gaming machine. I can setup a webex with you when you are around and do it for you.

 

[SuB]

The Avermedia is made to handle all the encoding on it's own chip in the rig you have it in... thus not dropping any frames of any kind... that's kind of the point of it. You don't need to dedicate a whole other rig to it...

Audio capture and all the other issues it sounds like you're having are as a result of it being in the other machine I'd say. If you want the audio from your 'gaming' rig you need to just output it via 3.5mm (again you should have looked this up)

I know the guys showed some tough love, but I gotta say I'm with him on this one, pointless build, if you had researched the Live Gamer HD you'd have seen it just works in the rig you're using it in tbh.

 

[UKCurtis]

The Avermedia is made to handle all the encoding on it's own chip in the rig you have it in... thus not dropping any frames of any kind... that's kind of the point of it. You don't need to dedicate a whole other rig to it...

Audio capture and all the other issues it sounds like you're having are as a result of it being in the other machine I'd say. If you want the audio from your 'gaming' rig you need to just output it via 3.5mm (again you should have looked this up)

I know the guys showed some tough love, but I gotta say I'm with him on this one, pointless build, if you had researched the Live Gamer HD you'd have seen it just works in the rig you're using it in tbh.

Nonono I'm sorry you are wrong I have even tried it and alot of people agree, The Avermedia live gamer hd does SHIT job for encoding its soo bad dude.

That's where I didnt research about it first, Alot of pro streamers you could say have a second PC to dedicate encoding.

Its for capturing and for recording 1080p gameplay NOT for encoding...

Also if you looked above im getting help with someone who knows his stuff, All im getting here is flamed because im using another computer and I didnt know how to set it up, Damn ive never done this before that why I was asking for help in the first place. Im sure you didnt know how to build a computer from the start I made one mistake wow big whoopty do, please do your research because you clearly dont understand so many twitch streamers use another pc e.g Streaming PC it takes all the pressure off your Gaming pc which I wanted.

Maybe for you and some other people paying that money isnt worth it but im sorry is it your money no, I enjoy streaming I want to get involved in it abit more and if I pay for some components that will help me in my journey so be it.

So you can delete this thread now thank you!.

 

[Edge]

Nonono I'm sorry you are wrong I have even tried it and alot of people agree, The Avermedia live gamer hd does SHIT job for encoding its soo bad dude.

That's where I didnt research about it first, Alot of pro streamers you could say have a second PC to dedicate encoding.

Its for capturing and for recording 1080p gameplay NOT for encoding...

Also if you looked above im getting help with someone who knows his stuff, All im getting here is flamed because im using another computer and I didnt know how to set it up, Damn ive never done this before that why I was asking for help in the first place. Im sure you didnt know how to build a computer from the start I made one mistake wow big whoopty do, please do your research because you clearly dont understand so many twitch streamers use another pc e.g Streaming PC it takes all the pressure off your Gaming pc which I wanted.

Maybe for you and some other people paying that money isnt worth it but im sorry is it your money no, I enjoy streaming I want to get involved in it abit more and if I pay for some components that will help me in my journey so be it.

So you can delete this thread now thank you!.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. SuB is correct.

I stream myself. All on the same PC. Not a particularly powerful PC either. I'd suggest learning how to optimise your stream settings rather than spending all out on a whim because "that's what pro streamers use." Little late now, but hey, learning experience.

PS - No "Pro streamer" I know uses a second PC. They use a PC that is capable of doing both. I don't know what settings you are trying to stream on, but an i7 should handle encoding no problem. Hell, my i3-2100 let's me stream at 720p!30fps no problem.

 

[barnsley]

I can stream (30fps@720p, using open broadcaster) and record (I use playclaw instead of fraps, much more optimised) at the same time with a set up that cost as much as two graphics cards in your rig. If you're recording videos with a desktop i7 an getting significant frame drops you're encoding it wrong. I've even managed to stream and record with my good ol' i3 550. Heck big Youtubers who stream and record at the same time only use one machine. Its all about the upload speed on your internet IMO, especially if you're not big.

 

[Edge]

I can stream (30fps@720p, using open broadcaster) and record (I use playclaw instead of fraps, much more optimised) at the same time with a set up that cost as much as two graphics cards in your rig. If you're recording videos with a desktop i7 an getting significant frame drops you're encoding it wrong. I've even managed to stream and record with my good ol' i3 550. Heck big Youtubers who stream and record at the same time only use one machine. Its all about the upload speed on your internet IMO, especially if you're not big.

I use a far weaker system and stream via Xsplit at the forementioned 720/30fps, while still happily gaming at 900p-1080p (30-60fps) in most games, and having Xsplit or Dxtory locally recording everything to my HDD (Prefer using Xsplit's record function as then facecam/microphone is also encoded straight into a synced file I can upload to Youtube).

Hard not to get a little agitated when someone messes up this hard. It's worse for me than that guy with the three separate liquid cooling loops that hung outside the case xD

 

[barnsley]

Hard not to get a little agitated when someone fucks up this hard. It's worse for me than that guy with the three separate liquid cooling loops that hung outside the case xD

At the end of the day I'd see it as an excuse to build another PC (always fun imo). Unless you have super-duper internet I always say internet>pc for streaming, within reason of course .

 

[UKCurtis]

Its not an excuse to build another computer oh my days, if recommend everyone using OBS to xsplit because it does an amazing job uses less horse power!


What sub said anyway he said to use the Avermedia live gamer HD to ENCODE NONONONONO that's not what it does its for capturing devices, Recording 1080p content without loosing any fps its not used for ENCODING it does a SHIT job at it I cant stress that enough.

Im sorry but when I see streamers who have A gameing pc and a streaming pc and there stream is looking really nice and smooth to watch what does that tell me.......

While I stream on my 1 pc and the video just looks alright, your sacrificing alot when using one computer its all depending on what game you are playing.

I bet you any money you cant STREAM 1080P @60FPS playing BF4 OR BF3 with EVERYTHING turned up.

Watch this guy!

http://www.twitch.tv/ipengineer78

This guy is going to help me my setup he as an insane setup for streaming and you call me an idiot and I dont know what im talking about.

You look at one of his videos and tell me that doesnt look amazing he is using a streaming pc and a gaming pc setup you could NOT do that with 1 setup.

Even if he did 1280 720 @ 60fps it still would look amazing!

What you can achieve with a streaming pc is amazing stuff!

Also just like to say that my streams look FINE its not my settings MY settings are FINEEEEEE this is getting to me alot. Yes your right with one thing I could just carry on streaming with 1 pc without any problems but me being me I always want more so I cant help that..............

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO NOT LOSE ANY FPS WHILE STREAMING YOU CANT DO THAT WITH 1 PC, THAT IS WHY I HAVE JUST BOUGHT MY CUSTOM BUILT 2011 RIG TO DO THAT........... YES IT'S EXPENSIVE BUT ITS NOT YOUR MONEY.

Please read before typing bollocks I dont care what you can stream I can stream with 720 @ 30fps/60fps fine yes fine, But I dont like how much frames I lose while streaming that's kinda the whole point in this build so my other computer e.g Streaming pc can do all the encoding for me is that really to hard to understand, YES it alot of money but heck I could use it for other things so what its a good looking build I think I did a good job with it, Im looking forward to overclocking to see what I can get out of it.....

Also what I find funny is you assume that my rich or something 'More money then sense' lol dude I work part time at a Holiday Park and I am a General Assistant which includes helping the housekeepers with various jobs around the caravan ohhh what an exciting job yeah I'm making millions dude.......

It's called 'Saving' I save for the things I want and I get them that's pretty much it, I love buying hardware its pretty what I do buy games etc my whole life is surrounded by tech and that's what makes me happy.

 

[Edge]

Your whole life is surrounded by tech but you don't know that a DVI cable doesn't carry audio.

If you were smart, you'd set up one system and have your new (pointless) rig mining or folding. Really, for the sake of a couple fps that won't even be streamed because of Twitch broadcast restrictions?


As an experienced Youtuber and Streamer, let me clue you in on a few things.

A) OBS doesn't support any hardware encoding other than Intel QuickSync.

B) Your viewers are going to get shoddy quality and frame drops regardless because streaming is an imperfect platform, and not everyone has fast enough internet to watch uninterrupted. Hence why most non-partner streams run at 720p or less - It's smoother for everyone, and that's pretty important for building an audience.

C) Because of Twitch limitations for non-partners, no matter how good a stream you can output, no one is going to see it, because they don't give unlimited bandwidth & transcode services to people who aren't bringing in money for them.


You're welcome.

 

[UKCurtis]

Your whole life is surrounded by tech but you don't know that a DVI cable doesn't carry audio.

If you were smart, you'd set up one system and have your new (pointless) rig mining or folding. Really, for the sake of a couple fps that won't even be streamed because of Twitch broadcast restrictions?


As an experienced Youtuber and Streamer, let me clue you in on a few things.

A) OBS doesn't support any hardware encoding other than Intel QuickSync.

B) Your viewers are going to get shoddy quality and frame drops regardless because streaming is an imperfect platform, and not everyone has fast enough internet to watch uninterrupted. Hence why most non-partner streams run at 720p or less - It's smoother for everyone, and that's pretty important for building an audience.

C) Because of Twitch limitations for non-partners, no matter how good a stream you can output, no one is going to see it, because they don't give unlimited bandwidth & transcode services to people who aren't bringing in money for them.


You're welcome.

Whats your Twitch name ?

Well that's false because I dont have any problems watching that guy who has 1080p @60fps and he isnt partnered...... Also it what a DVI to Hdmi and it did carry sound because even in the video I proved it did........ Dont have the video now because my mate is helping me with my situation.

And who said I was going to stream 1080p??? Im streaming at 720@60fps but at the end of the day my streaming will looks silky smooth....

 

[Edge]

Whats your Twitch name ?

Aren't you missed the point a little?

Link.

DVI is a video only component. Like, literally, it's video. Not sure if you're delusional or what, but, seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

Using a DVI to HDMI adapter doesn't magically let the initial DVI output carry audio.

And who said I was going to stream 1080p??? Im streaming at 720@60fps but at the end of the day my streaming will looks silky smooth....

Again, you're missing the point. Firstly, your PC can handle a stream of the magnitude without suffering from fps loss. Secondly, your internet is a much bigger factor in how smooth the outcome is. Thirdly, it's going to lag. For everyone on the planet. With 1MB download or 1GB download.

 

[UKCurtis]

Aren't you missed the point a little?

Link.

DVI is a video only component. Like, literally, it's video. Not sure if you're delusional or what, but, seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

Using a DVI to HDMI adapter doesn't magically let the initial DVI output carry audio.


Again, you're missing the point. Firstly, your PC can handle a stream of the magnitude without suffering from fps loss. Secondly, your internet is a much bigger factor in how smooth the outcome is. Thirdly, it's going to lag. For everyone on the planet. With 1MB download or 1GB download.

All I hear coming from you is people with streaming pc are idiots which is a ridiculous statement.... Im done mate.

 

[Edge]

All I hear coming from you is people with streaming pc are idiots which is a ridiculous statement.... Im done mate.

Well then, I have no other way to say it, you're a moron.

Read back in the thread. I've provided you with every solution to your problems. If you can't take the advice, then it's no skin off my teeth.

Good luck with everything, and try not to rage too hard when people tell you your stream is lagging despite your bonus rig xD

PS. I'm really not trying to play mindgames with you. DVI does not carry audio. Google it. Read it. Take a tech class, see a therapist, I don't know.