Cru
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why would DLCs change the game mechanics?
massive updates? well i didn't notice any.
every time i decided to give it a try again i ragequetted after max. 2 rounds because it still felt like the same shit
Battlefield 4 - Game Details
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why would DLCs change the game mechanics?
massive updates? well i didn't notice any.
every time i decided to give it a try again i ragequetted after max. 2 rounds because it still felt like the same shit
the basic game mechanics are the same. also the DLC is enough reason to dislike the game. you pay 100€ for 30 maps, i pay 60€ for cod4 and 190 maps + 30 mods. + the community is quite shit, even worse than the one of cod and the new cod community is garbage.
SparkleDJackson
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Don't get so butthurt over it dude. You hate battlefield/ea/dice. Just leave it at that. Most fps gameplay mechanics are the same. It's gonna be hard to revolutionise pov warfare simulators without super over complicating things. For example. What if when constructing a load out you had to zero your weapon. It's not like crisis with super jump and cloaking. The game needs
Weather effects
Day night cycling (possibly in real time. I think that would be cool)
Large selection of existing weapons
Improved customisation
Vehicles that go realistic speeds (land vehicles atleast air vehicles need a bit of a boost but not too much to the point they become difficult)
Proper flora and fauna
Proper weapon balancing
Closer to realistic bullet damage
Destructible environment and limb destruction
If you hit someone with a 50cal round their leg is going to come off effectively removing them from combat effectiveness, so dead. If you hit someone in the leg with a low energy round they should slow down and have their sprint capability reduced until med pack is used.
That's a few things I'd like
Weather effects
Day night cycling (possibly in real time. I think that would be cool)
Large selection of existing weapons
Improved customisation
Vehicles that go realistic speeds (land vehicles atleast air vehicles need a bit of a boost but not too much to the point they become difficult)
Proper flora and fauna
Proper weapon balancing
Closer to realistic bullet damage
Destructible environment and limb destruction
If you hit someone with a 50cal round their leg is going to come off effectively removing them from combat effectiveness, so dead. If you hit someone in the leg with a low energy round they should slow down and have their sprint capability reduced until med pack is used.
That's a few things I'd like
Cru
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right, that's why we both spent 1000h+ in BC2
i love battlefield. i hate bf3. i hate what DICE became and EA in general because they have always been douches. what's new stuff and complexity worth if it's worse than the simple stuff. i don't mind seeing an oldschool fps, as long as it does its job well.
also we both know gore isn't going to happen since this game wants to be family friendly in some retarded way.
SparkleDJackson
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I'm just saying to relax no need to get all, oh no you didnt
I'm just saying to relax no need to get all, oh no you didnt
oh well i just love to argue, there is no raging involved or anything. my main problem with that game is it's influence on the gaming industry, with BF3 my faith in PC FPS gaming pretty much died completely. well, what was left of it after MW2's release, but at least that game didn't pretend to be a PC game.
SparkleDJackson
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Yea you are right. It's a game about killing but they won't show super gore it's dumb.
Crap my mince is burning. 1 sec broseph
Sorry for taking so long.
Yea you are right it won't happen. I personally hate that I need origin. I had steam only for years and now I have steam origin and uplay. It's annoying as heck. I have noticed over the years that eas product on they whole has been getting a little worse. Just money grabbing, before hot pursuit the last good nfs game was most wanted. The new most wanted is a good handling game that's to the burnout crew but the micro transaction based gaming blows. Shortcuts, who is going to pay for shortcuts. When I was young if you wanted shortcuts you checked cheatcodecentral or cheatplanet, maybe purchased an exploder cheat device. But the kit or car shortcuts that ea I agree is a complete lack of care for the consumer.
i couldnt believe it when they released their shortcuts for unlocking weapons in bf3. how can they use "above and beyond the call" for advertising if they are raping our wallets even worse than cod. i never spent a penny on cod dlc, neither will i ever pay for new bf dlc (i bought vietnam for bc2, but i enjoyed that game and it was only one DLC with a reasonable amount of content, even though no mod tools is still a huge downside)
Bf4 would need to fix the issues that bf3 has for me to consider buying it. No doubt it will be a 60e title too plus the dlc they will drip feed over the next year. Also I do not fancy paying 60+ quid for a game that will be replaced in a year or twos time.
As for the bugs/issues there are many imo that need to be fixed for bf4.
Firstly sun glare. It is stupid beyond belief to have a feature that basically blinds you in a game that you need to see the enemy. The blue tint makes the game look dull and boring. There is a thing called something like FXAA injector that basically makes the game look so much better. Once you try that the vanilla version of bf3 looks awful.
Next up is the lag compensation/net code. The net code in bf3 means you will often die when you go around corners. This happens in other games too but not to the extent that it does in bf3.
The bullet damage needs to be adjusted. I think it is a little stupid to headshot someone with a low powered rifle at very close range twice and they still have over 10% health.
The gun balancing needs to be adjusted. Imo slugs for shotguns should be removed as they make them way overpowered. Being able to kill someone at range with a shotgun in one hit to the leg is stupid especially when you use something like a scar L and two headshots wont kill.
The feel of the guns needs to be adjusted to imo. The game feels too spammy and you get so much spray and pray. Especially since the game rewards you for missing ie suppression. There really isnt a need to go for headshots in bf3 with a smg or assault rifle as it is quicker to aim for the body and just hit them 3/4 times. The only guns imo that feel any bit rewarding to use are the bolt snipers. Even the auto snipers just feel like spam. The pistols react the same too. Visually they seem to have recoil but they really dont. Just tap the mouse as fast as you can in the general direction of the other player they will go down.
Speaking of suppression, I for one think it is just another stupid way to help people get kills. I mean it promotes spraying rather than aiming. It also is very random. When sniping I have had times where I am almost blind due to suppression and I can headshot someone easily and it wont be a luck shot. Then there is times where A guy shoots one bullet and my aim goes all over the place.
The animations are a little spazzy too. If you watch someone bunny hopping across the map trying not to get shot it looks hilarious. It looks like they are skipping across the map. The other animations are the turning while running animations as the guys head goes all over the place because his body leans with the turning. Then you have the headshot animation. Shoot someone in the head and watch as they only have one hand on their gun and point to the air but still hit you. Then you have the looking at the ground animation but still headshoting you. Not to mention the one knife kills from half a mile away and also the immunity when knifing. I have put so many rounds into people when they are knifing someone only to see them turn around afterwards and one shot me with a shotgun and still have full health.
To me bf3 is a casual shooter. It just feels too imprecise and very spammy. The animations do not corelate to the actual opponents view and the net code will make you rage more often then not.
For me when I play bf3 I turn on music and play with no sound and just run around. I cannot take bf3 any bit seriously, it is just a game to chillout too. I find it hilarious watching people play so hard as if it is a competitive match sitting on a med pack behind cover spraying an m16 and when you just run around killing them they shout out at you calling hacks
In some ways bf3 was a nice step forward from bf2 but in other ways it just became crap. Imo it took a leaf outta cods book to try and appeal it to the masses and it worked but in doing so they make a shooter for the average joe rather than a shooter for the competitive scene.
The same can be said about the new counter strike with the addition of the stupid crap like fog of war and bland colours in the maps. Then you have the molotov and decoy grenades and nerfing of some good weapons. The things is at least the new cs is not a 50e game but rather a less than 15e game.
As for the bugs/issues there are many imo that need to be fixed for bf4.
Firstly sun glare. It is stupid beyond belief to have a feature that basically blinds you in a game that you need to see the enemy. The blue tint makes the game look dull and boring. There is a thing called something like FXAA injector that basically makes the game look so much better. Once you try that the vanilla version of bf3 looks awful.
Next up is the lag compensation/net code. The net code in bf3 means you will often die when you go around corners. This happens in other games too but not to the extent that it does in bf3.
The bullet damage needs to be adjusted. I think it is a little stupid to headshot someone with a low powered rifle at very close range twice and they still have over 10% health.
The gun balancing needs to be adjusted. Imo slugs for shotguns should be removed as they make them way overpowered. Being able to kill someone at range with a shotgun in one hit to the leg is stupid especially when you use something like a scar L and two headshots wont kill.
The feel of the guns needs to be adjusted to imo. The game feels too spammy and you get so much spray and pray. Especially since the game rewards you for missing ie suppression. There really isnt a need to go for headshots in bf3 with a smg or assault rifle as it is quicker to aim for the body and just hit them 3/4 times. The only guns imo that feel any bit rewarding to use are the bolt snipers. Even the auto snipers just feel like spam. The pistols react the same too. Visually they seem to have recoil but they really dont. Just tap the mouse as fast as you can in the general direction of the other player they will go down.
Speaking of suppression, I for one think it is just another stupid way to help people get kills. I mean it promotes spraying rather than aiming. It also is very random. When sniping I have had times where I am almost blind due to suppression and I can headshot someone easily and it wont be a luck shot. Then there is times where A guy shoots one bullet and my aim goes all over the place.
The animations are a little spazzy too. If you watch someone bunny hopping across the map trying not to get shot it looks hilarious. It looks like they are skipping across the map. The other animations are the turning while running animations as the guys head goes all over the place because his body leans with the turning. Then you have the headshot animation. Shoot someone in the head and watch as they only have one hand on their gun and point to the air but still hit you. Then you have the looking at the ground animation but still headshoting you. Not to mention the one knife kills from half a mile away and also the immunity when knifing. I have put so many rounds into people when they are knifing someone only to see them turn around afterwards and one shot me with a shotgun and still have full health.
To me bf3 is a casual shooter. It just feels too imprecise and very spammy. The animations do not corelate to the actual opponents view and the net code will make you rage more often then not.
For me when I play bf3 I turn on music and play with no sound and just run around. I cannot take bf3 any bit seriously, it is just a game to chillout too. I find it hilarious watching people play so hard as if it is a competitive match sitting on a med pack behind cover spraying an m16 and when you just run around killing them they shout out at you calling hacks
In some ways bf3 was a nice step forward from bf2 but in other ways it just became crap. Imo it took a leaf outta cods book to try and appeal it to the masses and it worked but in doing so they make a shooter for the average joe rather than a shooter for the competitive scene.
The same can be said about the new counter strike with the addition of the stupid crap like fog of war and bland colours in the maps. Then you have the molotov and decoy grenades and nerfing of some good weapons. The things is at least the new cs is not a 50e game but rather a less than 15e game.
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seumasbeathan
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I don't get why people complain about the DLC, they are very reasonably priced, even cheap I would say, and they improve the game
iBeInspire
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Will definitely be picking up a copy, loved BF3 for a few months, but even now I always come back to it to put a smile on my face.
Let's see if BF4 will finally be the one thing to take me away from COD4 promod after all these years.
Let's see if BF4 will finally be the one thing to take me away from COD4 promod after all these years.
either i pay 15€ for a dlc with 4 maps and a few guns, none of that is well executed or anything or i pay nothing for 190 maps and 30 mods. which will i choose?
i am willing to pay for a dlc for a game like borderlands because they actually put some effort into it, but still i always prefer community made content over DLC. it's not like those dudes didn't make enough money off the stock BF3.
BF4 over promod? how's that going to work out? the games are completely different and i doubt that there will ever be a game of a similiar gameplay type that would reach the perfection of promod.
i'm not gonna quit promod until the last server dies.
seumasbeathan
Banned
To be fair, the DLC's arn't that much at all, you can get all 5 dlc's plus BF3 itself for just £22.50
You obviously haven't checked out any of the recent DLC which has brought some great new maps and game modes.
It sounds to me like you're much happier sticking to CoD and CSS and enjoying being sold the same old garbage with a new skin in CS:GO. Each to their own though, if that's what you prefer, have fun with it.
Cru
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he doesn't play cs:go or bo2.
kully1972
Member
I actually bought the new Medal of Honor game just for the B4 beta access! lol
I personally love BF3 and although don`t fully endorse the way EA`s corporate muscle gets in the way I do nonetheless feel its justified with investment and development DICE have done and pushed the frontier of PC graphics. BF3 was the sole reason for me upgrading my machine just like many others, and BF4 will continue to kickstart many an upgrade just like its predecessor.
Nuffsaid? lol
I personally love BF3 and although don`t fully endorse the way EA`s corporate muscle gets in the way I do nonetheless feel its justified with investment and development DICE have done and pushed the frontier of PC graphics. BF3 was the sole reason for me upgrading my machine just like many others, and BF4 will continue to kickstart many an upgrade just like its predecessor.
Nuffsaid? lol
yassarikhan786
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I like the weather and destruction 4.0 aspect.
i'm not a cs player and i only play cod4 of the cod franchise. also the "great" "new" gamemodes are all old as f*ck. capture the flag? old. scavenger? just a renamed version of oldschool fps gaming. gunmaster? seriously? none of that stuff is new and none of it is well executed.
whatever DICE does with the DLCs, it either existed before or modders could do it better, just because a modder would actually be interested in the game and the players and not just in the wallets of the customers.
