Battlefield 4 - Game Details

[Snortan]

someone said something about destruction. and i super agree there needs to be more destruction. if im in a air vehicle with rockets and i do a run and empty my load on the ground i would like to se individual craters for each detonation. i havent played bf3 since i had a falling ot with a team mate so i cant remeber if it did anything like that very often. id like to see deaths by debris. say for examplea person places c4s on their quad/atv and does the c4 dash. i woud like to see the whhels flying and the engine flying away whith physical qualities that if you get hit by that flying piece you would die. frag damage is one thing but debris damage is where it should be headed

That would be quite awesome and annoying when you keep getting killed by debris all the time:lol:, but it's something that the casual gamer won't appreciate and I really doubt they will implement anything like that.
Maybe Arma will do something like that to an extent, hopefully.

 

[SeekaX]

That would be quite awesome and annoying when you keep getting killed by debris all the time:lol:, but it's something that the casual gamer won't appreciate and I really doubt they will implement anything like that.
Maybe Arma will do something like that to an extent, hopefully.

i think the casuals would rather accept it than the die hard gamers, the casuals are usually more attracted to completely stupid features that have a shiny graphic effect. i'd be pissed as f**k if random flying car parts would hit and kill me, imagine that in a competitive setup (not like BF is ever going to be competitive, that just wouldn't work out).

 

[seumasbeathan]

You already do get killed by debris, and Battlefield has a decent competitive side

 

[SeekaX]

You already do get killed by debris, and Battlefield has a decent competitive side

no. no it really hasn't. it might have some people who pretend that what they are doing is competitive, but it isn't really competitive. the game just doesn't work like that, too unbalanced, vehicles etc.. it also misses some features that are necessary for a competitive game, demo support, private matches, lan support etc.

 

[seumasbeathan]

no. no it really hasn't. it might have some people who pretend that what they are doing is competitive, but it isn't really competitive. the game just doesn't work like that, too unbalanced, vehicles etc.. it also misses some features that are necessary for a competitive game, demo support, private matches, lan support etc.

You can just set up a private server for private matches though, and I don't really see how it is unbalanced? There is a large amount of good weapons, and certainly no OP ones

 

[litchu]

hoping it wont be made client-side again really, becaus that is really bad..

 

[equk]

no. no it really hasn't. it might have some people who pretend that what they are doing is competitive, but it isn't really competitive. the game just doesn't work like that, too unbalanced, vehicles etc..

I agree with this

I played quake2/quake3/cs/css in clans etc and when BF3 came out a lot of people I knew moved over to BF3.
I pre-ordered BF3 and never really got into it in terms of 'competitive' play.
It just felt like a pub hero style game

So much of it is unbalanced and personally I'm not really into the vehicles thing "ooooo look at me I'm in a tank" etc

I don't mind BF3 for a laugh on voice comms but in terms of competitive play, it's nowhere near games like CS/CSS would even go as far to say the Quake series is better for competitive play.

 

[Cru]

I agree with this

I played quake2/quake3/cs/css in clans etc and when BF3 came out a lot of people I knew moved over to BF3.
I pre-ordered BF3 and never really got into it in terms of 'competitive' play.
It just felt like a pub hero style game

So much of it is unbalanced and personally I'm not really into the vehicles thing "ooooo look at me I'm in a tank" etc

I don't mind BF3 for a laugh on voice comms but in terms of competitive play, it's nowhere near games like CS/CSS would even go as far to say the Quake series is better for competitive play.

quake is way better. there's not much that's worse than bf3 competitive

 

[Snortan]

no. no it really hasn't. it might have some people who pretend that what they are doing is competitive, but it isn't really competitive. the game just doesn't work like that, too unbalanced, vehicles etc.. it also misses some features that are necessary for a competitive game, demo support, private matches, lan support etc.

And to add to that buggy vault, getting killed by people with 0%health and getting killed behind cover because on the other screen you weren't under cover yet.

 

[seumasbeathan]

The people having 0% health isn't a bug, its just a feature, you die when you go down below 0%

 

[Cru]

The people having 0% health isn't a bug, its just a feature, you die when you go down below 0%

oh right i forgot, BF3 doesn't have any bugs, they are all features! lol

 

[seumasbeathan]

There are many small bugs, however that is a feature and that is just a fact, could you name any other "bugs" that people claim are features?

 

[SeekaX]

You can just set up a private server for private matches though, and I don't really see how it is unbalanced? There is a large amount of good weapons, and certainly no OP ones

you can shoot cover away, everyone plays m16 or engineer because of the damn vehicles which autowin every fight, private servers are only possible if you buy servers, so no ladder or pcws are possible. it's like playing minecraft competitively, it doesn't work out. it doesn't fulfill the demands of a competitive game.

 

[Cru]

There are many small bugs, however that is a feature and that is just a fact, could you name any other "bugs" that people claim are features?

i can't because i haven't played that game more than 3 hours in the past 5 months

 

[seumasbeathan]

you can shoot cover away, everyone plays m16 or engineer because of the damn vehicles which autowin every fight, private servers are only possible if you buy servers, so no ladder or pcws are possible. it's like playing minecraft competitively, it doesn't work out. it doesn't fulfill the demands of a competitive game.

Vehicles are terrible, I will admit that that is because of the engineers ability to shoot any vehicle down. And m16 is pretty crap now

i can't because i haven't played that game more than 3 hours in the past 5 months

Well then, you are in no place to judge the game

 

[Cru]

There are many small bugs, however that is a feature and that is just a fact, could you name any other "bugs" that people claim are features?

oh wait i actually can.
at least one.
the damn sun / lens flare bullshit

and i can judge the game.
i don't play it because i don't enjoy playing it

 

[SeekaX]

Vehicles are terrible, I will admit that that is because of the engineers ability to shoot any vehicle down. And m16 is pretty crap now

the thing is some games just don't work out for competitive gaming because they aren't made for that. BF is one of them, it has always been like that.

 

[seumasbeathan]

oh wait i actually can.
at least one.
the damn sun / lens flare bullshit

and i can judge the game.
i don't play it because i don't enjoy playing it

But that is a feature of the game and you know it is, if it was a bug then it would have been fixed, however EA/DICE have said many times that it is intended and even ban people who get rid of it

 

[SeekaX]

But that is a feature of the game and you know it is, if it was a bug then it would have been fixed, however EA/DICE have said many times that it is intended and even ban people who get rid of it

dude just because it is a feature doesn't mean it's any good. and that stuff is horrible, especially again for competitive gaming. when you have the sun in your back you pretty much win all the fights. and that they ban
people for getting rid of their terrible graphics decisions is outrageous.
also about the "you are in no position to judge this game":
both cru3l and i have given that game a lot of chances, we really only stopped back in may when we lost all hope, we both have 100+ hours. we are in every position to judge it, especially as old school battlefield players.

 

[seumasbeathan]

i can't because i haven't played that game more than 3 hours in the past 5 months

This is why you are in no position to judge it, since then massive changes have taken places, including 3 new pieces of DLC and massive updates