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I feel the Asus should have been compared to these for perspective and fairness.
I imagine if/when these boards are received at TTL Towers, that will be exactly what happens.
I feel the Asus should have been compared to these for perspective and fairness.
I'm a TTL fan and have been for a good while, however this review in my opinion seemed more of a bashing than the usual constructive review from Tom.
I know the Extreme did not perform as expected, and as always I applaud Tom for his honest and colourful reviews.
However my main gripe over this review is the lack of comparison.
We all now that an MSI GD65 performs as well and is half the price, but what about Gigabyte and MSI's Top end boards?
The MSI Z87 X Power is as expensive and the Gigabyte Z87X-OC Force is over £100 more. I feel the Asus should have been compared to these for perspective and fairness.
Could it be all Haswell, high end boards are a waste of money, not just Asus's.
There will always be low, mid and high end ranges to everything, the individual makes the choice and pays his money.
Its obvious you pay more money for Premium brands/models with higher end components with extra features/gimmicks they come with, if you use them all the time, once or never.
As an example, I'm sure Tom would be just as fast down a trail on a bike half the price of his Scott Ransom Carbon Ltd, it's just personal choice and exclusivity. BTW, love the bike Tom.
If you can afford it and like it, buy it, simple as. And as always look at more than 1 review if need be.
Before the usual is dished out, I have both MSI and Asus rigs, which are both great.
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All in good time mate, I dont have endless ammounts of time to test, I do have a life and this is technically just my Job. This is the first and only thing Asus have sent so far and it was their slot for a review.
Trust me I didnt bash this anywhere near as hard as I could have tbh
It just left me feeling disappointed and thats NEVER happened with a rog before.
Even for benchmarking this board is too expensive. Have you actually watched the review?I loved the review :lol:
As a newb it seems apparent to me that this board is really only for the quad GPU gang and let's face it if you just dropped 2-3k on your graphics cards what does an extra £100 for the motherboard really matter?
It's just another Asus ROB board - 'Republic of Benchmarkers'
The Maximus VI Formula is where things will become interesting. It's a shame Asus won't send you one for review now you said that TTL!
JR
Even for benchmarking this board is too expensive. Have you actually watched the review?
The MSI MPower MAX will do the same for a bit more than half the price![]()
Even for benchmarking this board is too expensive. Have you actually watched the review?
The MSI MPower MAX will do the same for a bit more than half the price![]()
Even for benchmarking this board is too expensive. Have you actually watched the review?
The MSI MPower MAX will do the same for a bit more than half the price![]()
If this board wasn't ROG branded and OC branded instead similar to the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC Force.
Would there have been a different conclusion?
I'm liking this board...
Its not Haswell's fault. Its that the lower end boards are great and haswell doesnt need loads of power to run/overclocked - basically as Ive already said for most users the expensive boards are just elite epeen boards that you DONT need.
If you want to bench and your only reason for buying the board is to overclock then one of the expensive boards may get you a marginally better clock. But Im not going to risk my CPU to prove that point. Ill go to a decent clock and 100c is 20c higher than we normally do but thats it. After that point you need MUCH better cooling
SourceRawZ - Aria Forums said:Just be careful about some reviews out there. A lot of them are using ES. Nothing wrong with that but some of the ES can do a lot higher Overclocks (stable and bootable) with a lot less voltage than retail. Mileage will vary a lot depending on what cooling method and if your retail CPU is a duffer. The motherboard isn't the limitation in this case. Don't go thinking I'll buy a £200+ motherboard for 4.6+ Overclocks as some of the cheaper ones I've tested do exactly the same. If you can keep CPU temps under 80C and not breach any higher than 1.35v (1.3v ideally), well done. I don't think it's worth hitting 1.4v even on custom water.
You may have noticed the other day we had some OEM speed-tested CPUs for sale. Whats interesting, these Haswell chip vary massively more so than other generations we've tested. Even though they were all from the same batch, to boot into the Windows desktop at 5GHz for example, a few can do so at 1.25v (like some ES CPUs I and reviewers have), others need 1.4-1.45v or higher.
Those of you who are speed binning yourself to get decent chips to OC stable 4.6-4.8 with decent cooling & temps, look for those chips than can boot into Windows at 5GHz with 1.25-1.3v.
Unfortunately, most are dogs. By that I mean 4.2-4.5 is probably going to be the max for most of you no matter what cooling method or motherboard. Lucky ones will hit 4.6. Anything 4.7 and over, count yourselves very lucky with your chip. Out of 60 tested, I found around 45 to be poor clockers. The others we're around 4.6-4.7. Very VERY few could do 4.8. The i7's are a flipping nightmare to get stable with high clocks as the hyper-threading rapes the temps when using OCCT 4.4.0 with AVX enabled on all logical cores. As some review site have claimed. 90-100C+ is true.
Is it worth it? Overclockers, yes. Gamers, not so much. Mr Joe Bloggs, no.