ASUS Maximus VI Extreme Review

I think you've spoken way too soon on the product line up from Asus Tom.
Because Maximus VI Hero is a much better comparison to the entry level MSI/GIGA.
 
I think you've spoken way too soon on the product line up from Asus Tom.
Because Maximus VI Hero is a much better comparison to the entry level MSI/GIGA.

Cant comment about products Ive not seen mate, nor change my views on a single product based on another one.

Ive only spoken about this one item not the range.
 
Who the hell would run more than 2 way SLI or Crossfire-X anyway ?, After 2 GPU's the scaling gets pretty bad and not worth it, Yay for 5FPS more and £400 more for a 3rd card, So worth it......
 
I wish to complain. In Tom's latest video the line "...so, as you can imagine, Asus went f***ing spastic about it..." made me laugh so hard and unexpectedly I almost spit tea all over my laptop which would have doubtless rendered it useless. It was a jolly nice cup of tea as well which would have increased my sense of loss palpably. Statements of this nature should be accompanied by some manner of warning in future to avoid similar mishaps.

On a separate note, I've just found this site whilst researching my latest PC build and I am very happy to have done so. I'm currently scouring the reviews and soaking up the forums. I wanted to join to say how useful it's proving.

Those Asus trolls are top drawer comedy value too :lol:
 
On a separate note, I've just found this site whilst researching my latest PC build and I am very happy to have done so. I'm currently scouring the reviews and soaking up the forums. I wanted to join to say how useful it's proving.
Yeah I have aria.co.uk to blame for introducing me to Tiny Tom Logan through his videos being plastered all over the place.
I also have TTL blame for getting me to sign up to the forums with his mega Haswell competition :)
 
I just sincerely want to say thank you to all for this thread. It's an epic roller-coaster of a journey. Facts, non facts, zealotism, melodrama and are all here.

It's been highly entertaining and extreme value for money in the fact that it cost me just the time to read and me internet connection (well and my comp and electricity).

If I am honest Tom, *and I understand you have limited time*, I still would have liked to see you banging away with this mofo.. sorry mobo on vid. I know this may sound like I'm being a facetious bar-stard, but no, I mean it, I like watching your clips of stuff doing badly more than stuff doing goodly :) , weird huh? That Thorsten 1200W PSU vid? F-ing hilarious! ("...don't touch it with ya mates barge pole.." Gold dust!)

Please go into more detail on the stuff you consider below par. I think its valid to do full lengths on not just what stands out for being good, but stands out for being curdled-monkey-shite. You might not have the time, but count me in the audience if you do :)
 
Asus has lost their way 100 percent,was about 5 guy's on youtube that I trusted,well I thought an now they are on asus pay-roll for sure,T-T-L be the only person ill watch on youtube now,he is only one that can be trusted,sad asus dont care about us who buy's these mother-boards...msi looking really good now.....nzxt same as asus to me....
 
Asus has lost their way 100 percent,was about 5 guy's on youtube that I trusted,well I thought an now they are on asus pay-roll for sure,T-T-L be the only person ill watch on youtube now,he is only one that can be trusted,sad asus dont care about us who buy's these mother-boards...msi looking really good now.....nzxt same as asus to me....


Everyone is allowed the oppinion dude, they may have got a different BIOS, I just reported what I had......

Theres also way you can look at certain things to make them seem better.
 
Wow... this series of exchanges became quite petty and off-topic. Lot's of ad-hominem attacks from people on both sides. Perhaps worse is the fact that I didn't learn much of anything except that people are strangely worked up over a topic that just doesn't warrant any emotional turmoil at all.

I'll quickly give my two cents on ASUS: I am a patron of the company. I trust them in a number of areas, particularly in networking. Having said that, I think it is indubitable that with their increased popularity and company success there has been a predictable shift towards poor customer service and product quality indifference. It seems that the more successful a company is, the more likely they will become a profit-driven monster... look at HP. Sucks doesn't it.

Anyway, I am posting to ask the following: if the maximus vi extreme is not worth the money, what board is recommended for 250-450$? I am trying to build a powerhouse gaming rig, and I sort of defaulted to ROG. Having read so many users say that Gigabyte and MSI are producing the best MB's, could someone suggest actual model #'s. I also wondered about a number of posts stating that intel's 4th gen Haswell CPU's should be avoided, but this is in stark contrast to other reviews that I have read in which increased performance over 2nd and 3rd gen were guaranteed. I don't need the built in graphics, so which CPU is the best for gaming and overclocking? Should I go sandy or Haswell. The Xeon is expensive, and server-class, so I imagine it is not for gaming and OC.

Thanks to anyone who gives advice... oh, and regarding MB suggestions: I find the user-friendly features that some posters scoff at to be a major plus with regard to buying a board. I do not want to be able to destroy my expensive rig because my board assumes I know about voltages/load-line calibration/etc... I would like a board that can do what ASUS' boards can - like secure and stable automated overclocking, automated and intelligent fan control, remote-go, etc...

In summation:

Sandy or Haswell

MB Model Recommendations

Keep ease of overclocking in mind, please.

Thanks Sincerely

Carson

I just found this ASRock Z87 OC Formula board on newegg. Any thoughts on this one. BTW I'm posting in this thread because I was all set to buy the ASUS Max VI Extreme until I read Tom's review.
 
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No it wont. You can't run Quad SLI or 4 Way Crossfire on the MPower Max.

He clearly said in his message this board is for benchmarkers. And if you're not just a CPU benchmarker you'll want Quad slots for four 780's / Titans. That is what this board offers over the MPower MAX.

But the problem is .. Quad SLI / 4 Way Crossfire sucks for gaming, most games do not work with it properly and it often results in lowered FPS compared to Tri-SLI and 3 Way Crossfire.

Why is this a problem if this is for Benchmarkers? Because it's in the Republic of Gamers brand and yet they've stuck on all these super high end benchmark and overclocking features and when you combine that with the fact haswell retail chips don't really clock that great this board makes little sense over one less than half its cost that can reach the same overclocks for enthusiasts just using air or water but not LN2.

And honestly I'd argue that even the Quad SLI / 4 Way Crossfire that this board offers would not be a great thing due to its lack of PCIe lanes. X79 with a x8 x8 x8 x8 Gen 3 configuration would be much better for Titans for example and would give higher benchmark scores, even on my own system just going from Gen 2 to Gen 3 with Dual cards increased my maximum FPS and thus benchmark scores in Heaven by 300 points. The minimum and average stayed the same so it would not be relevant in gaming but in benchmarking that extra max FPS provided by the extra bandwidth counts.

This board .. I dunno, it certainly fits a niche, a guy who has enough money to be stupid with it but not enough money to go X79? *shrug*
I think you raise a good point here you do have to go to the MSI XPOWER z87 to get quad channel. Ultimately that is a tailored overclocking board for benchmarking. Think there is consideration that haswell wouldnt be great 4 cards anyway since doesnt have as much grunt as say heavily overclocked 3970X but thats different price bracket. Main criticism I have of this board is its republic of gamers but seems like its trying to be a pure overclock board with few tacky bits ontop.
 
Anyway, I am posting to ask the following: if the maximus vi extreme is not worth the money, what board is recommended for 250-450$? I am trying to build a powerhouse gaming rig, and I sort of defaulted to ROG. Having read so many users say that Gigabyte and MSI are producing the best MB's, could someone suggest actual model #'s. I also wondered about a number of posts stating that intel's 4th gen Haswell CPU's should be avoided, but this is in stark contrast to other reviews that I have read in which increased performance over 2nd and 3rd gen were guaranteed. I don't need the built in graphics, so which CPU is the best for gaming and overclocking? Should I go sandy or Haswell. The Xeon is expensive, and server-class, so I imagine it is not for gaming and OC.

Thanks to anyone who gives advice... oh, and regarding MB suggestions: I find the user-friendly features that some posters scoff at to be a major plus with regard to buying a board. I do not want to be able to destroy my expensive rig because my board assumes I know about voltages/load-line calibration/etc... I would like a board that can do what ASUS' boards can - like secure and stable automated overclocking, automated and intelligent fan control, remote-go, etc...

In summation:

Sandy or Haswell

MB Model Recommendations

Keep ease of overclocking in mind, please.

Thanks Sincerely

Carson

I just found this ASRock Z87 OC Formula board on newegg. Any thoughts on this one. BTW I'm posting in this thread because I was all set to buy the ASUS Max VI Extreme until I read Tom's review.

With regards to ASUS: My Gene offers pretty much the same as the Extreme does. Atleast it does all the automated overclocking. At half the price, and you get all the same stupendous BIOS settings that nobody without a degree in electrical engineering will understand. If you want ATX then the Hero can't be a too bad bet, as it's roughly the same price (£150-£160ish). If you're just gonna do automated overclocking then the Extreme is super-ultra overkill.

You can't really go wrong with a 4670K or 4770K. The price difference between Ivy and Haswell is so small that there isn't really any reason to go Ivy, even if the performance increase isn't that big.
 
Nice 2 the point review, for the price that Asus is asking this board in the end it comes 2 personal choice . Cheaper and good looking boards (other brands) offer much more than this boards in terms of stability and overclock. An obvious choise 4 an asus fan would be the gene that offers kinda the same performance , less connectivity and less bundle at half the price .
Me i would go for gigabyte z87x-oc 4 atx , gigabyte g1 sniper m5 microatx cause both are in the same price range orasrock z87m oc formula but this last one i havent seen it in shops in my country yet :)
 
Wow, long thread. To be honest, skim read a lot of it.

I'm a little confused that a board arguably aimed at real high end overclockers with all the options to do so isn't reviewed as a board for doing this with and then given a negative review?
As a strictly overclocking board surely the World Records speak for themselves, whether they're benchmark runs on LN2 or not.
As I understand it 8Pack/Lurpack does compete for OC world records, where as TTL doesn't. What TTL does do is review products for the average gamer/enthusiast.
If this is a board for overclocking and it holds multiple world records and is backed by someone that I believe holds a world record or two, doesn't that suggest it's target audience? If it's not gonna be reviewed as such, why review it at all?
Surely that's like doing a review of a track-day sports car, but judging it based on how well it works as a people carrier for taking the kids to school?

If 8Pack is 'sponsored' because companies send him stuff for free to use, does that mean TTL pays for everything he reviews? Or does he get 'sponsored' too?

It will be interesting to see if MSI and Gigabyte's expensive boards get similar reviews for not offering enough extra features to justify 2 or even 3 times the price tag of a mid-range board. Can we then all say MSI and Gigabyte have dropped the ball this time around too?

Also, how does TTL know what 8Packs MD is telling him? Did he tell on him?
Is that the level this reached? Cuz I'm not sure anyone comes out of a 'discussion' like that well.

I think we need to give TTL the chance to review the more expensive MSI and Gigabyte boards as well as the cheaper ROG & Asus to see how this review sits in the scheme of things.
Then maybe we can see if TTL dislikes all high end boards because of their price or if he just has a thing in for Asus at the minute. Or my personal preference, that the Gigabyte Z87X-OC Force (for the extra £275+ over the Z87X-OC) is actually able to work the zipper on my jeans (for starters) while I'm using my PC.
 
Not saying that you are wrong, but if it's strictly for overclocking, Asus should drop the whole ROG thing for this board.
 
Yeah, ROG seems to mean Asus 'Premium' division more these days than 'Gamers' division.

That said, I'd hope that we can all look past a brand name to figure out the intended use of a board. MSI put planes on their graphics card boxes but I don't expect them to be able to fly, it's just marketing. I also don't think that MSI's 'Lightning' range actually has anything to do with lightning and wouldn't expect it to be marked down in a review due to lack of lightning. Or planes.
 
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