Around £1500 for a build! Help me spend it!

[Ashton187]

After all my advice you are still going for the 250 ohm and a soundcard. GREAT!

Why don't they power the soundcard with a 6pin, and let it drive heftier headphones? -_-

If you google around, you can read a lot of buyers and reviewers who say they are capable of powering up to 600ohm headphones.

Most people who have this sound card have a 250ohm pair of headphones.

When I use my Essence STX to drive my DT770 Pro 80-Ohm and DT770 Pro 250-Ohm, it is very hard to tell the difference.
In general the 250-Ohm will have a little more clarity then the 80-Ohm.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/612345/beyerdynamic-dt-770-pro-for-classical-music

Yes, that sound card will power you headphones just fine,it is one of the best soundcards that you can purchase.

As you have the Asus Xonar Essence STX, which can drive headphones up to 600-Ohms.
You could get the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250-Ohm headphones.
Nice sound and comfortable, solid build.
I'm wearing my right now.


As you have the Essence STX, headphones in the 80-Ohm or higher range is preferred.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/617438/best-full-size-sealed-headphones-for-gaming

My Essence STX easily powers my DT770 Pro 250-Ohm headphones.
I like the sound of the 250-Ohm a little more then the 80-Ohm.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/529144/rec...read-ask-for-advice-here-please-read-op/16290

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18420461

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1698647

After a lot of research just decided go for them, and I did not disappointed in any ways. I'm using ASUS Xonar Essence STX sound card. After I bought then found for my self extremely hard to stop listen music, even my wife who extremely rarely listen music and especially from headphones started listen and I have hard time to get my headphones back. I'm very happy that I made this decision to buy them.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R1HN...e=UTF8&ASIN=B0011UB9CQ&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode=

I'm sorry to say guys, but the vast majority of people say you are wrong

 

[jamesriley94]

Right, we've given you advice about everything here, and you've gone your own way.

It probably will power the headphones fine, but probably not at as great a quality.

I'm finding you rather rude that you let us waste time trying to help you, when you then ignore our advice anyway.

We here give advice for what we would feel comfortable with, whether that means spending less to get the same performance, or spending more in order to reap the full benefits of the headphones you're spending like £150 on...

If you dont like our advice, go and read reviews all day if thats what makes you happy, but dont come here asking for advice and help, and then blatantly ignoring it, or telling us we're wrong because 1 review on amazon says he's using it and it works.

This has gone to a 13 page thread on a build advice now, and we have wasted a lot of time in giving you proper advice for it to be ignored.

 

[PEXON]

I give up and echo EVERYTHING James says, you ask for advice and choose to ignore.

 

[Ashton187]

Right, we've given you advice about everything here, and you've gone your own way.

It probably will power the headphones fine, but probably not at as great a quality.

I'm finding you rather rude that you let us waste time trying to help you, when you then ignore our advice anyway.

We here give advice for what we would feel comfortable with, whether that means spending less to get the same performance, or spending more in order to reap the full benefits of the headphones you're spending like £150 on...

If you dont like our advice, go and read reviews all day if thats what makes you happy, but dont come here asking for advice and help, and then blatantly ignoring it, or telling us we're wrong because 1 review on amazon says he's using it and it works.

This has gone to a 13 page thread on a build advice now, and we have wasted a lot of time in giving you proper advice for it to be ignored.

I give up and echo EVERYTHING James says, you ask for advice and choose to ignore.

So because i've ignored Pexon's advice, i'm ignoring everybody elses? Pexon's advice is that i shouldn't buy the 250ohm headphones because the essence wont power them, but i've provided evidence from people who own both the sound card and the 250ohm headphones, so in the end who is offering the incorrect advice? :huh:

And its hardly 1 review on Amazon....

I've took pretty much everybodys advice on here. I've listened to your advice quite intently James, but if your going to get pissed off because of an issue not even related to the advice you've given, then what else can i do?

You advised me to stick with the i5, 670, MSI motherboard, radioactive memory and AX650w power supply. And that is what i have done. Yet you claim i'm not listening too advice?



What more can i say.

 

[jamesriley94]

You advised me to stick with the i5, 670, MSI motherboard, radioactive memory and AX650w power supply. And that is what i have done. Yet you claim i'm not listening too advice?

It took 6 pages to convince you on getting them. So no, that's not really listening.

Anyway, it's your money, do what you like, I'm not helping anymore.

 

[Ashton187]

It took 6 pages to convince you on getting them. So no, that's not really listening.

Anyway, it's your money, do what you like, I'm not helping anymore.

Suit your self. But throwing your toys out the pram like that was very childish.

And it took 6 pages because of research ontop of your recommendations, i'm not just going to throw £1500 down the toilet without looking into each componant recommended and looking into options i have.

Still can't figure out why your so butthurt. :headscratch:

 

[PetrolHead247]

Suit your self. But throwing your toys out the pram like that was very childish.

And it took 6 pages because of research ontop of your recommendations, i'm not just going to throw £1500 down the toilet without looking into each componant recommended and looking into options i have.

Still can't figure out why your so butthurt. :headscratch:

He's not 'butthurt', James & Pex have given you awesome advice, so too has a fair few other members and you haven't taken it on board much at all. These guys on the forums know a hell of a lot about hardware and such so they would not recommend you a bad component. If you don't want to waste £1500 listen to these guys and you'll do just fine.

I'm not being rude, just telling the truth

 

[PEXON]

He's not 'butthurt', James & Pex have given you awesome advice, so too has a fair few other members and you haven't taken it on board much at all. These guys on the forums know a hell of a lot about hardware and such so they would not recommend you a bad component. If you don't want to waste £1500 listen to these guys and you'll do just fine.

I'm not being rude, just telling the truth

Thanks Petrolhead, at least someone has their head screwed on tight!

 

[Ashton187]

He's not 'butthurt', James & Pex have given you awesome advice, so too has a fair few other members and you haven't taken it on board much at all. These guys on the forums know a hell of a lot about hardware and such so they would not recommend you a bad component. If you don't want to waste £1500 listen to these guys and you'll do just fine.

I'm not being rude, just telling the truth

And as explained above, i have....

I seriously have no idea why this has been blown so much out of proportion, i've listened to a lot of peoples feedback and adjusted my build based upon that.

At the end of the day, opinions are just that, opinions. Just because i dont listen to everyones doesnt mean i dont appreciate there input.

This forum is crazy, i've posted this build and the suggested changes on 3 other forums and this is the only one where i have experienced anything negative or downright crazy behavior. Hell i didnt even get this attitude on my last build on here 2 years ago. :huh:

 

[PEXON]

Go on PC Part picker UK, get two 670's, a Z77 board and a i7 2600K, 16GB of the cheapest RAM, a 1TB HDD, 128GB SSD, what more could you need?!

 

[Ashton187]

Go on PC Part picker UK, get two 670's, a Z77 board and a i7 2600K, 16GB of the cheapest RAM, a 1TB HDD, 128GB SSD, what more could you need?!

Ironically the negative and aggresive attitude started as soon as you started posting.

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showpost.php?p=544448&postcount=69

To be exact.

 

[PEXON]

Yes, but Corsair 1500 'Gaming' headset.

 

[Ashton187]

Yes, but Corsair 1500 'Gaming' headset.

I knew nothing, asked for advice, you mocked me and provided no useful feedback.

Did some research, came back, you approved, i did more research and you dissagreed.

Then all this crap started.

So because my own personal research proved that your advice was flawed, i get flamed for not taking everybodys advice?

 

[jamesriley94]

His advice was never flawed. He said it wont be as good as if you were to use an amp, and said why. That is correct advice. He never said it wouldnt work, he said it wouldnt work as well, which is correct.

Considering he owns as mentioned like 3 different pairs, I'd be trusting his advice a lot lot more.

You just have seemed from this entire thread to be fighting against us.

 

[PEXON]

My advice is not flawed. Have you owned a pair of DT770 Pro 250 ohm and noticed the difference between them amped up? I have and can tell you there is a considerable difference between any sound card by itself. As I said before, the power that a soundcard can draw from a PCI-E 1X slot whereas a real amp that draws its power from the wall says at all. I'm saying nothing more on the matter. Goodbye, chap.

 

[Ashton187]

His advice was never flawed. He said it wont be as good as if you were to use an amp, and said why. That is correct advice. He never said it wouldnt work, he said it wouldnt work as well, which is correct.

Considering he owns as mentioned like 3 different pairs, I'd be trusting his advice a lot lot more.

You just have seemed from this entire thread to be fighting against us.

WHAT!?

As i've explained enough already i've taken nearly every single bit of ******* advice from most of you. And you james you've basically single handedly changed my entire ******* build and your telling me i'm ignoring advice? Either i'm completely missing the point of you guys arguing with me or your just sticking up for a mate in a situation which should never have even got this far in the first place.

I'm absolutely livid at the thought YOU keep telling me i'm ignoring advice. I mean compare my OP to what i've listed last.

And now because the majority of the people say the soundcard and headphones will match up well and pexon tells me otherwise, i'm expected to ignore the vast majority and believe pexon after how obnoxious he has been?

Fighting against you, hardly. You guys are being completely unjust and rediculous.

 

[Lollipop]

Relax guys....

 

[PEXON]

Nothing to do with you then? lol

 

[jamesriley94]

It took you 6 pages to change things.
After that, you go for a 4gb 670, when you have been advised not to.

We spend half of our lives on this forums, every single day people come in with new build advice and every day we tell them the exact same parts to buy. As soon as we tell them, their list gets changed, and the threads finished within 2 pages. You have to see that this feels from our point of view like a massive waste of time, especially me and Pexon, when we've advised you one way or another, and then you go and look online at some BS reviews that tell you you need 4gb of RAM to run BF3, despite us telling you why reviews claim it needs that much.

Still after typing a 20 minute post about why you should choose the i5, you then go and ask questions several pages later about getting a Sandybridge-E for gaming.

Great you've changed things, but it shouldnt have ever taken this long to do it, and it's just felt such a struggle to convince you to get X instead of Y.

As for the 'being completely unjust and ridiculous' - that's so wrong. You are here asking us for advice. If you dont like the advice we give, there are plenty of other forums, with people that would just tell you to get the best possible parts you can afford and have done with it, whereas we actually use our brains and know ourselves which parts will make a bigger difference, rather than just being spoonfed benchmarks

 

[wassupdoc]

fftopic: I would trust whoever has the most experience in the field, even if it goes against the common attitude, in this case PEXON has much more valid advice for you. If you don't like it there's no need to argue, just say: I hear what you are saying, I appreciate you giving up your time to help someone you have never met before, but I think I'm gonna go with the general opinion on this occasion. There is no need to be rude at all. Please let this be an end to this.