Anyone running a quad Phenom yet?

Not quite but you could put it that way. It is certainly restricted and you're missing out on PCI2.0 and HT3.0.
 
Isn`t it like sticking an AMD x2 in an FSB333 mobo tho
Eh not really. Like was said your missing out on PCI-E 2.0 and HT3.0 but the difference between AM2 and AM2 + dosent give you any real performance gains yet so it makes it useless to spend the money on an AM2+ board if (saying you have a GOOD one) your AM2 board will do just as good.

As for PCI-E 2.0 there is no gain yet so no big.
 
name='PP Mguire' said:
Eh not really. Like was said your missing out on PCI-E 2.0 and HT3.0 but the difference between AM2 and AM2 + dosent give you any real performance gains yet so it makes it useless to spend the money on an AM2+ board if (saying you have a GOOD one) your AM2 board will do just as good.

As for PCI-E 2.0 there is no gain yet so no big.

Future proofing (although I hate that word) is always a gain :p
 
Nice linkage.

Reading that, it seems like a bigger deal to me, almost taking half the width away using a HT3.0 capable chip in a HT2.0.
 
The current Phenoms use HT3.0 right? If they do, then there stil lisnt enough reason to get HT3.0 cause it dosent give enough performance gain over the Q6600.
 
U`ve lost me now.

It`s a good idea to keep hold of ur HT2.0 AM2 board and put a phenom in it and not buy a HT3.0 board cos the phenom isn`t as good as a Q6600 ?

I`d`ve thought u`d want to get a HT3.0 board for ur HT3.0 chip, cos it can perform as best it can ?

Be like buying a AMD x2 and sticking with ur DDR333 mobo ?

Don`t think u`d buy a Q6600 and stick it in a board that would only support DDR333, u`d buy a new board.
 
Lol im saying it still dosent give enough performance increase to justify spending the money just yet. And considering q6600 = DDR2 lol DDR333 would SUCK :p
 
name='PP Mguire' said:
Lol im saying it still dosent give enough performance increase to justify spending the money just yet. And considering q6600 = DDR2 lol DDR333 would SUCK :p

.. cos DDR2 is meant to be 2ce the width of DDR ? ;)

Which was why I wouldn`t get one and put it in an AM2. U`d just be selling urself short imo.

It`d work, but I didn`t see the point.
 
When putting a current Phenom in an AM2 board right now its almost the same as putting it in an AM2+ board. Thats why ive been trying to say the performance increase (which is minimal) dosent justify getting the newer board.
 
Still not with u I`m afraid.

Doubling the width, effectively, from HT2.0 to HT3.0 is minimal ?

Or u saying these phenoms don`t actually use the double width ? - think I`d be with u if this is the case.
 
Or u saying these phenoms don`t actually use the double width ? - think I`d be with u if this is the case.
Its quite simple really and the first link i put down explains it all. The current Phenoms have the ability to use the HT3.0 and so do a few boards but right now it dosent make a lick of difference in performance. So it dosent make any difference between a good AM2 board and a good AM2+ board at the moment. Maybe when the higher clocked Phenoms come out it might crack the potential speed increases of HT3.0 but right now its about like PCI-E 2.0. Good technology not being used quite yet.
 
Well anyone who buys a Phenom as a serious upgrade at the minute is a fool. We're waiting for the higher clocks and the black editions before we buy.
 
Well I'm glad we're on the same level here. That still doesn't stop the astute (and rich) amongst us from buying a Phenom now if only for testing purposes - and if these people will be buying more Phenoms in the future it works out in their favour to just buy the AM2+ motherboard right away :)
 
Well yea but thats the rich were talkin bout. Im a poor fellow here lol. So, AM2 will do me fine.....(Cept i just saw Newegg had a DFI AM2+ board hehehe) *scratches chin*
 
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