AMD vs. Intel

[McKantis_Mayhem]

In the interest of fairness, I like to have all my facts in order before I make a decision. Let's face it, nobody likes to look like an ass.

So my question is, between Intel's 2011 socket enthusiast line and AMD's AM3+ socket FX line, (I'm assuming this to be the fastest AMD has to offer. If I'm wrong, please tell me!), which company has the better/most powerful product?

I know there are people who swear by AMD, but I have personally never heard a good thing about them other than their price point. In my own experience, anything with an AMD processor (occasionally Intel processor with an AMD graphics card) has been nothing but sh*t.

I have to admit I'm biased in this case since I've only personally ever owned Intel machines, but the few AMD machines I've worked on had performance issues like you wouldn't believe.

So is it just my Intel bias showing, or is AMD really the weaker of the two opponents?

 

[ccaution]

If you're talking 6c/12t, intel hands down.

The Intel's performance is in a different league, when we are talking heavy cpu depented tasks. The 8350 doesn't stand a chance even with the previous 6c/12t cpu (970,980X and such).

It's
LGA2011 alone
LGA1155 i5/i7 vs AM3+ where there is a fair fight 3570k vs 8350, mostly in favour of intel
LGA1155 i3 vs FM2 where the AMD APUs detroy everything that claims an on die gpu
nowadays.

LGA2011 should get some Ivy-E love, down the road too and it's capable of 8c/16t, if Intels decides so.

I love both companies, and I might love AMD a bit more, but let's be honest, 3570k is a hell of a deal.

 

[McKantis_Mayhem]

I've never liked any i3 I've ever seen either now that you mention them.

Like I said, I don't have much experience, good or bad, with AMD so I wasn't aware Intel's 2011 was in it's own league.

 

[ccaution]

Intel introduced LGA2011 as a "server" platform but it quickly became consumer level too.

The good staff with the LGA2011 is that it still has some new CPU's down the road, it has the quad ddr3 support, and many lanes to drive more pcie staff.

The good staff with the LGA1155 it that you can overclock one of those 3770k and end up with a better gaming system, than with the current Sandy -E LGA2011. It sounds weird, but since Intel has left the LGA2011 cpus one "tock" back, the LGA1155 has the IPC advantage, and it clocks as good or even better than the current SB-E.

To cut a long story short, LGA1155 is certainly a better value platform than the LGA2011, while the LGA2011 is a bit more futuproof and it will certainly end up to have a fair bit more "horsepower" in those rendering etc. that will utilize the extra cores.

 

[McKantis_Mayhem]

I actually wondered about that when I first heard of the 2011. A media/whatever server is actually one of my planned uses for it as well as rendering and editing whatnot.

I thought about maybe waiting to start this until Intel releases the Ivy processors, but considering their lack of competition, and the fact that they just released the 3970X, I don't think that that particular release will be for a good while. In the meantime, I figure a 3930K with those 8 RAM slots filled to the top oughta be more than enough to tide me over until they do.

And maybe by that point I'll actually put in a full water cooling system as well.

But I'm getting off topic XD

I would assume the 2011's were released as server chips since no normal person should need that much processor. Or so they thought. Then Intel found more and more non-commercial users popping up. And thus the Enthusiast set was born.

 

[Excalabur50]

Intel hands down are the cpu leaders atm, gpu's are another matter but if it were my money it would have to be Intel.

 

[jamed2017]

GPU - AMD.
CPU - Intel.

I buy AMD because they're the underdogs.
Intel out performs in the cpu department.

Plus if you buy AMD now there will probs be a new socket in 12-18 months....

 

[grassman]

GPU - AMD.
CPU - Intel.

I buy AMD because they're the underdogs.
Intel out performs in the cpu department.

Plus if you buy AMD now there will probs be a new socket in 12-18 months....

Lol yeah right there finished just milking the AM3+ mobos atm.

Wouldn't shock me though if they release a AM4 with the exact same architecture :lol:

And imo OP is trolling hard..

 

[Sathos]

Hate to say it but the current word on the grapevine is that AMD have dropped everything after Piledriver... (ie: no more top level desktop chips on the way) and have also apparently gotten rid of the team that handles them during a series of "cutbacks". Given AMD has been wanting to head into the ARM device market and has been having great success with graphics and APU it makes a lot of sense for them to cut the slacking portion of their product base.

 

[S_I_N]

I used to be hardcore AMD all the way. But right before Bull Dozer released something told me (gut feeling) to jump ship and go Intel with my current build. I'm glad I did as we all know BD was not what was expected.

 

[Landopops]

I have an 8150 and it's all right, but now i rather want to have an intel cpu. They can resist more heat, and they have support for pci 3.0, which makes a little difference.
Plus they are so easy to overclock, my friend took his to 4.2 ghz with no problem.
Im a noob i know, but i couldn't get my cpu over 4.2 in first try

 

[MacLeod]

AMD is just fine. There is so much out of control AMD hate on forums that if you just landed here from Mars and read the forums, you'd think your PC wouldn't even boot into Windows with a FX chip and forget about playing games, they'd all be stuck at 4 frames per second!

This of course is total crap. You can have a perfectly capable and high performing rig with an AMD chip. They're cheaper as are their motherboards and are more fun to overclock since they've got more buttons to push in the BIOS so to speak.

Now all that being said, Intel is better. They're faster per core and per clock by as much as 300% in some instances! They rip FX chips to shreds in single threaded apps and despite have 4 less cores, the 3570K will outperform a 8350 in a lot of multithreaded apps! They also use half the power to add insult to injury.

AMD has taken a good step forward with Piledriver but its still not enough and even I'm jumping ship next year when Haswell comes out.

So my advice is always this: if you're building from scratch, Intel is the way to go. They're just better. But if you are on an existing AM3+ platform, want to save a few bucks or just don't like Intel, you can certainly have a perfectly capable AMD rig. I do.