AMD Ryzen 7 1800X CPU Review

[AlienALX]

That's what most people do. It's not about not being yourself, it's about questioning whether what you are doing is the right thing and becoming a better version of yourself. That's how a person's personality evolves. I don't expect you to become a different human being in a week, but if you recognize issues, why not work on them? Things may only change slowly or not at all when you try, but if you don't and only complain they definitely won't get any better, probably even worse..

Mods can split it off, shouldn't be an issue

I've been under a psychiatrist for over a decade. Believe me, what you have now is a million times better than what I have been.

I constantly work on my issues. The biggest one I have had to learn is tolerance. How does one tolerate a world full of everything he doesn't like, and people tuned to a different frequency?

But there is only so much that can be done, and only so far I can go. I am what I am.

If I annoy you please, feel free to put me on ignore. That's the mature and reasonable way of dealing with that sort of a problem.

I have a severely mentally disabled foster brother who i've raised with my single mom for 14 years now, i know a thing or two about people who perceive the world in a different way and do things which don't make sense to others. Despite his age he can't read, write, understand fairly basic logical connections or socialize with other people and most of that will never change, but i still always try to inspire him to better himself, even when it frustrates him. Progress is slow, but some progress is better than none. Always keep in mind that there are people who are considerably worse off than you, losing a job or a relationship isn't the end of the world and in terms of financials you can't be doing too poorly either with your setup, i sure can't afford that right now.

Also i guess we need to get to a closing here, i can feel the slap from the mods for derailing incoming.

I have improved myself. At my lowest in 2008 I had no job, no life, no friends, had lost my car (and license) and so on. Add to that a divorce and a complete lifestyle change (having had to give up my life in the USA as I was not capable of maintaining it).

Now? very happily married. Very well medicated. ETC ETC.

As for people worse off than me? haha, my mother always taught me that. You know? when my dad died when I was 7 and I said basically "FML" she reminded me of that. And people who were hungry, had to drink dirty water etc.

However, one thing you will never see out of me is jealously. I encourage others to show me what they have got, share their happiness with me.

There are people far better off than me too.

TBH? my life is hard enough as it is dude without worrying what other people think. That is something else I have had to learn. And I have also learned that sometimes some people are just not going to "get" you and that's that. You just have to call it a day and walk away.

I'm also far too generous. When I used to have human contact I also got screwed over all of the time because I was too trusting.

But yeah, about the easiest way I can describe myself? I'm like a radio tuned to a different station. I sound "normal" and I look mostly "normal" but inside I am far from it.

What you see on these forums is the best of me. You don't get to see the bad. You don't see me constantly getting infections in my fingers due to biting my nails until they bleed. The shaking, the blackness. The anger, the smashing things etc. Control is probably my worst trait.

Also consider I barely ever leave my house. I don't drink (gave that up for the sake of others) don't smoke, don't have any habits that cost money. I go out once a week to see my mother and when she's gone I doubt I will leave the house more than once a month.

 

[Zoot]

Finally got around to watching the video. Excellent job from Tom as usual.

The gaming performance although behind Intel sometimes, is still SO much better than where it was with the likes of the FX-8350. Given it's been reported that disabling SMT has improved performance on some systems, we could see a solution with some driver or BIOS updates.

It is a shame though that the clocks didn't scale over 4GHz much, it means the high clocked Intel Quads like the 7700k are still king for gaming.

I think the most interesting ones will be the 6C12T and even the 4C8T. They're the ones I'm REALLY excited about. Although I doubt we'll see high clock speeds on those given Tom's experience overclocking the 1800X.

Not going to upgrade my 6700k for at least another 1-2 years to come, but a 6C12T RyZen or whatever Zen+ ends up being called on a mini ITX board might well end up being my next rig.

So so so nice to have competition back in the market again. Intel's move next.

 

[Sp33d Junki3]

Very good results. The 7700K is still the gaming king, but unless Intel drastically drop their prices I don't think I'll be going with a 7700K even with its superior gaming performance. I think I'll wait for the 6 core CPU's.

Thanks a lot for the excellent review, Tom.

Can someone point out where the temperatures are listed? I've read the review and I can't find them.

All those games are already optimized for Intel. Will take some time for AMD to catch up. Plus seeing what Ryzen can do right now over previous AMD gen is beyond superior.

 

[Doomslayer]

IMO AMD was close but not close enough to even get me to change lol

 

[green_arrow]

Great review! I'll be looking ansious to the reviews of AM4 ready motherboards

 

[Shingara]

Great review, how much of the temps, memory and smt could be down to bios you think everyone ?

 

[NeverBackDown]

Great review, how much of the temps, memory and smt could be down to bios you think everyone ?

Memory is obviously a BIOS thing right now. Overtime they will get better and support more brands and etc. Takes a while with cutting edge tech.

 

[Shingara]

Memory is obviously a BIOS thing right now. Overtime they will get better and support more brands and etc. Takes a while with cutting edge tech.

Well ye, i do always get a little chuckle when something brand spanking new comes out and people are always shocked there might be teething problems.

 

[Dicehunter]

IMO AMD was close but not close enough to even get me to change lol

I was thinking the same, Will be with my 5930K @ 4.50GHz for a while yet.

Although it's good to see AMD actually competing again.

 

[Doomslayer]

I was thinking the same, Will be with my 5930K @ 4.50GHz for a while yet.

Although it's good to see AMD actually competing again.

Maybe bye Ryzen version 2 then they MIGHT be in front but that remains to been seen.

Intel may have need the boot up the ass but as i have said don't go writing Intel off i have seen people saying "Downfall of Intel" which i don't buy that for a second.

Ryzen was marketed for gaming and it kinda failed at that for the moment.

 

[Wraith]

Aye they have by no means wiped the floor with Intel but they have put themselves back in contension, I mean £500 for the 1800X is grand and all but do you "need" those cores? From a production point of view hell yes and it's a bargain compared to the 5960X, from an everyday user and gamers POV nah not even remotely.. £500 for the 1800X or £250 - £300 for an i7 which will still do the job as good if not better and cooler.. plus that's £200 in the everyday consumers pocket at the end of the day.

What I'm now waiting for are the Ryzen 1600X & 1600, these could be the ones to make Intel sweat as they claim to be competition for the i5 series but I've a feeling they are going to give the mainstream middle of the road i7s a run for their money and if they are i5 price points AMD have nailed the market. Here's to an exciting Q2.

 

[Shingara]

Maybe bye Ryzen version 2 then they MIGHT be in front but that remains to been seen.

Intel may have need the boot up the ass but as i have said don't go writing Intel off i have seen people saying "Downfall of Intel" which i don't buy that for a second.

Ryzen was marketed for gaming and it kinda failed at that for the moment.

Well when it comes to gaming, im sorta dont care, does it do over 60 fps in 1440p im golden, and in those stakes the gpu is more important really. And when it comes to this like i said previously im wondering how much of whats going on with the benchmarks, gaming and overclocking right now is mainly bios.

Like the cpu temps saying im hot but the coolers are not really getting that hot. So im wondering if the temps are being read correctly and the bios at this time cannot fully understand whats going on temp wise and simply guestimating them. So on that im waiting to see a full on watercooled system with temp probes for the water itself.

And ive seen some talk of maybe deliding might be an option but these things are soldered. so sod that for a game of chicken.

 

[Dicehunter]

Maybe bye Ryzen version 2 then they MIGHT be in front but that remains to been seen.

Intel may have need the boot up the ass but as i have said don't go writing Intel off i have seen people saying "Downfall of Intel" which i don't buy that for a second.

Ryzen was marketed for gaming and it kinda failed at that for the moment.

Yep, For gaming as of right now the 7700K is the way to go although I look forward to seeing the next Zen+ chips.

 

[BigDaddyKong]

Great review

One question, does the Asus boards have the core sync like Intel platforms? When it boost's, it does it to all cores.

I can remember when we had to turn off HT on Intel chips for some games. That was fixed with updates later. There is hope for that yet.

One thing I am confused about was the specs of the 4 and 6 core chips to be released later. They are the same speed range is as the 1800X or less. Usually less cores, the faster it will run. It may need the next silicon revision before they can get a better speed potential. I'm OK with that since this is a brand new process.

 

[Shingara]

Great review

One question, does the Asus boards have the core sync like Intel platforms? When it boost's, it does it to all cores.

I can remember when we had to turn off HT on Intel chips for some games. That was fixed with updates later. There is hope for that yet.

One thing I am confused about was the specs of the 4 and 6 core chips to be released later. They are the same speed range is as the 1800X or less. Usually less cores, the faster it will run. It may need the next silicon revision before they can get a better speed potential. I'm OK with that since this is a brand new process.

In the review it shows the cores clock up and down on the cores that are being used at that time, as for what the 4 and 6 core speeds will be i dont think anyone knows right now, and if they do there probably under an nda.

 

[BigDaddyKong]

Correct, they clock as needed. I am looking for the feature that turns them all up full speed whether they are used or not.

I was told info on the speed was not NDA at this time.

 

[Shingara]

Correct, they clock as needed. I am looking for the feature that turns them all up full speed whether they are used or not.

I was told info on the speed was not NDA at this time.

Well i suppose there is nothing to stop you manually clocking and then locking them, and for the speed and nda i was on about the ones that are coming out in q2 not these ones that just released.

Edit, just a sidenote, tom did say once he has gotten a handle on these cpus and done the benchmarks and stuff that he will be doing an indepth overclocking video.

Edit, edit, the speeds of the 6/12 and 4/8 are apparently out, my information was wrong, i double checked and my mate was telling me the final speeds maybe dif, not that the speeds are under nda.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Give it time and AMD will get better performance for games. More optimization being done will help. I knew this would be a problem. I said it before as did a couple others. Ryzen would be a beast(which it is) but we were worried about gaming due to virtually all the optimization going to intel for what? 6 years?

 

[Shingara]

Give it time and AMD will get better performance for games. More optimization being done will help. I knew this would be a problem. I said it before as did a couple others. Ryzen would be a beast(which it is) but we were worried about gaming due to virtually all the optimization going to intel for what? 6 years?

Well on the gaming front, it seems its more on the frequency where things jump infront, and if you watch toms video you can see the cpu temps are going hey im hot hot hot, but the cooler is well, cold. 32 mins in.

So for me im getting the feeling more and more that something isnt right in the bios, that all those sensors sending temp info are getting scrambled by the bios and giving the totaly wrong read out.

If thats the case then the overclocking on these if fixed could be something to watch out for. Not saying thats what is going on but if it is then damn get those bios sorted out.

 

[AlienALX]

Memory is obviously a BIOS thing right now. Overtime they will get better and support more brands and etc. Takes a while with cutting edge tech.

Takes a while with any new tech tbh.

Lest we forget the Sandybridge SATA port debacle...

But yeah, usually every new board launch has memory issues of some sort. I remember when my mate bought a C2D with DDR3. God, what a nightmare. He had BSODs for years because he wasn't savvy on flashing bioses.

As for the games? it will come. That's why AMD are working with Bethesda, to make sure they know their way around Ryzen. I'm sure other deals will follow

AMD did put out a statement as it goes.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/c...ryzen-doesnt-seem-to-keep-up-in-1080p-gaming/

It was the same with the Fury X. Look at it then, then look at it now.