AMD R9 390X Teardown Reveals a Complete R9 290X Rebrand

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A teardown of the AMD R9 390X has revealed that the GPU is a complete rebrand.

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Read more on the AMD R9 390X Teardown here.
 
Perfect :)

Lets hope round two of the aftermarket coolers is better than last time and then this shall be epic.

JR
 
As previously stated and mocked for my future prediction. "A turd is a turd, no matter how you dress it"

Another one sat here sighing "C'mon AMD"


Fingers crossed that the Fury X brings a whole new element to the ball game tomorrow. I'm rather looking forward to it if the truth be known!
 
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Perfect :)
Lets hope round two of the aftermarket coolers is better than last time and then this shall be epic.

I was thinking the same thing myself plus I may be able to get an EK waterblock for my Vapor X as they have been discontinued and I can't find one anywhere as I want the VRMS to be watercooled as well

I really hope they have refined this GPU with a new BIOS update though :)
 
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Its not a bad card. A bit disappointing but if they keep the pricing they have currently its still a good card. It does keep up with the 970 for the most part and beats it in a few games. The 8GB version beats the 970 quite comfortably past 1440P too.


People are only pooping on it because 'muh power draw'.
 
Its not a bad card. A bit disappointing but if they keep the pricing they have currently its still a good card. It does keep up with the 970 for the most part and beats it in a few games. The 8GB version beats the 970 quite comfortably past 1440P too.


People are only pooping on it because 'muh power draw'.

Very true, if they can bring these in at £300-350 that will be outstanding.

The only thing that is odd is that all of the 390X's are 8GB and it would seem Fury's will perform a little better and only have 4GB. It's almost as if they are suggesting 390X's are still the optimal way forward for Crossfire, which would make some sense.

JR
 
Very true, if they can bring these in at £300-350 that will be outstanding.

The only thing that is odd is that all of the 390X's are 8GB and it would seem Fury's will perform a little better and only have 4GB. It's almost as if they are suggesting 390X's are still the optimal way forward for Crossfire, which would make some sense.

JR

Its like the 4GB 770 all over again. Except you'd hope the pricing isn't as goofy.
 
Wow, are AMD trying to go bust? The extra 4GB of memory only helps at 4k yet the card can't do 4k well unless you have 2 or more which is a very limited market. It really begs the question of who is their target market?
 
Its like the 4GB 770 all over again. Except you'd hope the pricing isn't as goofy.

Then the 4GB 760 as well. The sad thing is people will buy one literally just because vram, still I think it's a great move for AMD. If they sort out the reference cooler and come across with a slightly more professional image then it could do well for them while really cutting back their R&D.

In my eyes they made the right move, the only thing that needed sorting out was the cooling and the perception. The core and the card were good already. As long as people don't chat noob about it being a rebrand and they don't go mental on the initial pricing then it should be enough to keep nVidia at bay in the 970/980 area. They just need to take on the 980Ti now.


Wow, are AMD trying to go bust? The extra 4GB of memory only helps at 4k yet the card can't do 4k well unless you have 2 or more which is a very limited market. It really begs the question of who is their target market?

I don't see your point, it's not as if a single 980Ti can convincingly pull off 4k and the 390X will most likely be a lot closer to 970/980 pricing. Their solution is still competitive why would they spend on the R&D of an entire new generation just to move things forward a tiny amount and raise the cost to the end user. I think they are probably trying to not go bust.

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(XFX DD 8GB 290X)
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JR
 
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**Speaking as a user, not AIC partner**
It all comes down to price at the end of the day. If AMD go aggressive on all 300 series cards then these are going to be great value for money Vs NVIDIA. Yes NVIDIA has recently been dominating the power Vs performance ratio (and 970 walking away with epic value at launch compared to 980), if AMD can bring better performance for the money, NV will have a problem.
 
Then the 4GB 760 as well. The sad thing is people will buy one literally just because vram, still I think it's a great move for AMD. If they sort out the reference cooler and come across with a slightly more professional image then it could do well for them while really cutting back their R&D.

In my eyes they made the right move, the only thing that needed sorting out was the cooling and the perception. The core and the card were good already. As long as people don't chat noob about it being a rebrand and they don't go mental on the initial pricing then it should be enough to keep nVidia at bay in the 970/980 area. They just need to take on the 980Ti now.




I don't see your point, it's not as if a single 980Ti can convincingly pull off 4k and the 390X will most likely be a lot closer to 970/980 pricing. Their solution is still competitive why would they spend on the R&D of an entire new generation just to move things forward a tiny amount and raise the cost to the end user. I think they are probably trying to not go bust.

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(XFX DD 8GB 290X)
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JR

Those benchmarks are squiffy as hell as you see huge variation in performances over games - These are far more consitent and show what I'm talking about. And as I said, if the extra memory only shows gains at resolutions higher than 1080p then why would you not go for a 970? It will run cooler, higher OC potential etc. So this means then you only look at the 8GB being useful at high resolutions when you need realistically 2 or more gpus.
That all brings me back to my original point - that is a very small market. Not many people run 4k screens with multi gpu setups.
 
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but once you get rid of the cooler, more quiet, more OC potentional arguments its back to amd imo. + just how many people just pick a card that actually LOOKS good, not even thinking about any thing else :D
 
**Speaking as a user, not AIC partner**
It all comes down to price at the end of the day. If AMD go aggressive on all 300 series cards then these are going to be great value for money Vs NVIDIA. Yes NVIDIA has recently been dominating the power Vs performance ratio (and 970 walking away with epic value at launch compared to 980), if AMD can bring better performance for the money, NV will have a problem.

Well said, so long as the products are competitive in the market, it doesn't really matter what it is.

If AMD do drive the prices down it would be a great thing for consumers.
 
These are far more consitent and show what I'm talking about. And as I said, if the extra memory only shows gains at resolutions higher than 1080p then why would you not go for a 970? It will run cooler,

Except it doesn't run cooler. The coolers on 290/290x are very good.
Its literally only a power draw issue unless you go for an ASUS card or the reference cooler.

That TH article has some flaws imo. For starters they've used a reference 290X which is 'overclocked' by a wopping 30mhz. Also where is 1440p? Thats more popular than 4k and the 290/290x tend to beat the 970 in that.
 
**Speaking as a user, not AIC partner**
It all comes down to price at the end of the day. If AMD go aggressive on all 300 series cards then these are going to be great value for money Vs NVIDIA. Yes NVIDIA has recently been dominating the power Vs performance ratio (and 970 walking away with epic value at launch compared to 980), if AMD can bring better performance for the money, NV will have a problem.


People forget the 290X (390X) is still a very fast card and if sold at the right price point it will be a real bargain.

If some of the leaks are true the cards use Hynix memory which is a nice improvement on the 290P and 290Xs where you were unlucky if you got Elpida chips.
 
so what about the rest of the 3 series cards?
wasn't the 280X a rebranded 7970?

Yes it was mate

On a different note I wonder how much the 390X waterblocks will go for as companies like EK XSPC etc wouldn't have to alter the 290x waterblock that much would they?
 
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Except it doesn't run cooler. The coolers on 290/290x are very good.
Its literally only a power draw issue unless you go for an ASUS card or the reference cooler.

That TH article has some flaws imo. For starters they've used a reference 290X which is 'overclocked' by a wopping 30mhz. Also where is 1440p? Thats more popular than 4k and the 290/290x tend to beat the 970 in that.

It does run cooler. The 970 is not designed to run at 94oC yet the 290 series is. The only reason the tempos get low on any 290 gpu is because of the huge heat sinks e.g 1.5Kg block of metal attached to it. The only good coolers are the triple fan ones and later edition OC boards...all of course come with a fair mark up.

Well ignore the reference 290 results (and yes, it is a bit odd anyone uses it as it throttled in seconds) and go with the Sapphire Toxic which is one of the best coolers on the market. I think using that card really shows the maximum potential of the chip.
 
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