AMD Drivers 7xxx series

[SeekaX]

Who would have known, somebody is mad about AMD's drivers.

I got an HD7950, just in case some game will release i want to play some day, and i wanted to play some Quake Live. Colours were missing, artifacting all over the place. so i RMA'd it after 2 weeks of trying to find out what's wrong. the new card had exactly the same issues.
i blamed the rest of my PC, there is no way that card wouldn't be able to run a game like Quake properly, right?
moving on to cod4, it runs okay, but sometimes there is artifacting, k i can deal with that.
moving on to bfbc2. worse FPS than my old HD6870, it's awful.
I was still blaming my PC, but today i finished a build for a friend of mine, which features an HD7870 Hawk. i initially intended to test my card in his rig, but i started quake live with the 7870 anyways. it was the same damn issue.
i haven't tested bfbc2 and cod4 yet, but if the issue is the same i will be mad as f*.
They can't just focus on new games and leave old games completely behind. So anyone who has an HD 7xxx card, would you mind running MSI kombustor for me and check if the test with the flag looks like this?

the quake live issue looks a lot like this.

i already contacted the AMD support, i got the confirmation mail 3 days late and they haven't answered me yet. i started the ticket a week ago. i already tweeted a bit to them, all i got was try different drivers and check if all cables are plugged in, why do they always imply that we are retarded?

rigs used to test:
AMD FX-4100 (4.2GHz)
Asus M5A97
Team Group Elite 1333MHz 8GB
Corsair H60
Corsair AX750

3570k(4.2GHz)
MSI Z77A-G45
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 8GB
Corsair H60i
Corsair AX750

Drivers tested:
12.6
12.10
12.11 Beta
13.1

 

[blair]

i can play all those games fine (bar quake as i havnt got it) on my HD7970 with no issues what so ever, with the 13.1 drivers.

 

[SeekaX]

i can play all those games fine (bar quake as i havnt got it) on my HD7970 with no issues what so ever, with the 13.1 drivers.

can't confirm the cod4 and bfbc2 stuff yet, but kombustor and quake live had the issues on 3 different cards in 2 different rigs.

 

[S_I_N]

quick question are you using the same monitor for all this testing??? cause that pic you posted that is not artifacting. I'm not sure exactly what to call it but I know it aint artifacting

 

[Cru]

quick question are you using the same monitor for all this testing??? cause that pic you posted that is not artifacting. I'm not sure exactly what to call it but I know it aint artifacting

He's not only complaining about artefacting but also about less FPS than with his 6870. So I don't think that the monitor is the problem.

 

[S_I_N]

umm yes it can be depending on what cable input is used if using an adapter say for DP to HMDI or DVI to hdmi or what ever. I'm asking small questions first.

Also who hasnt been guilty hey I got a new card I'm gonna max out my settings and wow what shitty fps I'm getting compared to my old card.

so my first question was is it the same monitor for both rigs and all 3 cards.

if yes then I was gonna ask ok what connection are you using between the monitor and gpu on each??

then are any adapters involved??

was said adapter used on all tests??

its a process of elimination since I doubt 3 cards and 2 rigs would exhibit the same issue across 4 drivers

the only other thing besides maybe a monitor or adapter that both rigs have in common is the builder. Maybe a tweak applied on both rigs while installing either windows or drivers is the issue but I wanted to handle one thing at a time instead of popping down 20 questions and risking the possibility one question got overlooked and finding no resolution.

so I say again is the monitor/cable/adapter the same across all tests??? we'll start there.

 

[SeekaX]

umm yes it can be depending on what cable input is used if using an adapter say for DP to HMDI or DVI to hdmi or what ever. I'm asking small questions first.

Also who hasnt been guilty hey I got a new card I'm gonna max out my settings and wow what shitty fps I'm getting compared to my old card.

so my first question was is it the same monitor for both rigs and all 3 cards.

if yes then I was gonna ask ok what connection are you using between the monitor and gpu on each??

then are any adapters involved??

was said adapter used on all tests??

its a process of elimination since I doubt 3 cards and 2 rigs would exhibit the same issue across 4 drivers

the only other thing besides maybe a monitor or adapter that both rigs have in common is the builder. Maybe a tweak applied on both rigs while installing either windows or drivers is the issue but I wanted to handle one thing at a time instead of popping down 20 questions and risking the possibility one question got overlooked and finding no resolution.

so I say again is the monitor/cable/adapter the same across all tests??? we'll start there.

dvi all the way. all the same ports, no changes. the monitor is fine.

 

[S_I_N]

ok have you tried a different dvi cable or monitor?? have ya put the 6850 back in to see if it does the same thing??

 

[SeekaX]

ok have you tried a different dvi cable or monitor?? have ya put the 6850 back in to see if it does the same thing??

yea obviously i have. else i couldnt say that the monitor is okay. i rma'd the card, meanwhile i used the 6870 again. no problems.

 

[S_I_N]

nothing is obvious mate when reading text over the internet. I'm asking questions to try and help you being uppity with answers isnt helping me help you so with that I'm out of it. I have better things to do than try and help someone and get a RUDE comment back.

 

[SeekaX]

nothing is obvious mate when reading text over the internet. I'm asking questions to try and help you being uppity with answers isnt helping me help you so with that I'm out of it. I have better things to do than try and help someone and get a RUDE comment back.

it wasn't intended to be rude. i just said that i tested everything in multiple rigs, so it was obvious that i already tested the old card. also i do appreciate you trying to help

there is actual artifacting in cod4, it just appears for a split second so i dont have a screenshot.

 

[S_I_N]

again nothing is obvious the reason I'm asking is nothing can be taken as obvious. Bad word to use I guess when a simpler yes I have tested the old card would of worked.

anywho has any of your testing been on fresh install of opsys thru drivers?? Have you driver swept each time you changed drivers??

 

[SeekaX]

again nothing is obvious the reason I'm asking is nothing can be taken as obvious. Bad word to use I guess when a simpler yes I have tested the old card would of worked.

anywho has any of your testing been on fresh install of opsys thru drivers?? Have you driver swept each time you changed drivers??

i sweeped the drivers, i even reinstalled windows (the 3570k rig i built just 2 days ago).

 

[S_I_N]

ok let me run kombuster on my xfired 7970's on driver 13.1 and see what I get.

 

[SeekaX]

oh and btw before the question comes up, it doesnt matter if the clocks are at stock or overclocked, the issues are all the same.

 

[S_I_N]

ok ran the test twice because at first i thought you were referring to the swirls in the background. As I dont normally use kmbuster I didnt know it was part of the test. Then I had to go back and read the OP as I thought I had missed something from the start and I did lol. You are referring to the blotchy colors on the flag correct?? mine runs show the same pattern in the MSI logo on the flag so I'm going to assume its meant to be that way. But heres one thing I did note. on your graphs on the side it appears your card is not being fully utilized mine stayed at 99% or better thru the whole test.

correction lol mine fluctuated during that portion of the test lol had to go back and runit one more time. to be 100% certain

 

[SeekaX]

ok ran the test twice because at first i thought you were referring to the swirls in the background. As I dont normally use kmbuster I didnt know it was part of the test. Then I had to go back and read the OP as I thought I had missed something from the start and I did lol. You are referring to the blotchy colors on the flag correct?? mine runs show the same pattern in the MSI logo on the flag so I'm going to assume its meant to be that way. But heres one thing I did note. on your graphs on the side it appears your card is not being fully utilized mine stayed at 99% or better thru the whole test.

the cards are fine. it must be a massive coincidence that they are all faulty, i used two 7950s and a 7870. in heaven, valley, 3dmark etc they are at 99% load. i doubt the flags are meant that way, the 6870 didnt have the issue.

cru3l just ran kombustor with a 570, everything normal.

 

[Cru]

You are referring to the blotchy colors on the flag correct?? mine runs show the same pattern in the MSI logo on the flag so I'm going to assume its meant to be that way.

it's not normal
it's supposed to look like this

 

[S_I_N]

only thing I can think of there is its a physics test mostly (at that part) and AMD isnt known for physics.

let me shut down and run my cards stock just gotta flip the bios switches

no changes flags still look the same.

 

[SeekaX]

only thing I can think of there is its a physics test mostly (at that part) and AMD isnt known for physics.

let me shut down and run my cards stock just gotta flip the bios switches

no changes flags still look the same.

then the 6870 should do bad as well. also the issue in quake looks exactly the same with the letters and 2d text is not physics related.