AMD 8350 & 7970 Gaming Rig Review

Nice one sir.
I am astonished how much of a difference there is on 3dMark11.
And even in some games like Far Cry 3 or Metro 2033 the amd 8350 bottlenecking the gpu quite a lot.
 
Nice one sir.
I am astonished how much of a difference there is on 3dMark11.
And even in some games like Far Cry 3 or Metro 2033 the amd 8350 bottlenecking the gpu quite a lot.


Bottle neck is a noob word mate wash your mouth out.


Its just titles where the CPU is required more......
 
Bottle neck is a noob word mate wash your mouth out.


Its just titles where the CPU is required more......


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I understood bottle neck as holding something back. So if the CPU slows down the frames, it is holding back the potential frames the GPU could throw out. Isn't it ?
 
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I understood bottle neck as holding something back. So if the CPU slows down the frames, it is holding back the potential frames the GPU could throw out. Isn't it ?

Some games use the cpu more. doesnt mean its holding the GPU back. Its complicated dude but bottle neck isnt the word.


@ Alien no mate W7. It was worse on W8 with most benches so we went with what looks best and also what a great deal of people seem to be running still.
 
Nice article

I was thinking I should have looked into the 8350 more before buying a 2500k, the benchmarks look pretty close to the intel 2011.
 
The 8350 isn't too bad, it gives the 2500k and 3450k a run for their money. performance does lack quite a bit in some games and benches compared to the Intel builds though.

Still, for the cost of the 8350 and the money you save on AMD motherboards, you do still get good bang for your buck.

Shame AMD doesn't have anything to compete against Haswell till late this year, early next year. Would be nice to see some serious competition between AMD and Intel again. It would be good all round and would bring prices down/make them more competitive and give them both reason to release faster and better CPUs, instead of drip feeding us tiny improvements each year.
 
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To be honest even with all the reviews that completely trashed both Piledriver and even Bulldozer, I've yet to see a scenario in games where the AMD rig is unplayable and the Intel one completely playable, they're both either playable or unplayable.
 
In terms of budget builds , I almost always use AMD builds. Intel never really seem to be that viable unless if their is a cpu upgrade planned later on.

The patch for windows 7 is quite good although it doesn't give -that- much of a boost as some people claim. Maybe do it for comparison? :D

Amazed at metro's performance. I'll have to test it on my rig at one point as it used to run...acceptably on my old i3 system and thus far I've really noticed a boost the 8320 has given me.

Always maintained that they'd get back on the gaming side of things relatively quickly. It'll take them a long time to really catch up in other areas though, I highly doubt their centurion will be able to give a 3770 or higher a run for it's money.
 
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TTL, how did you OC that chip? Multi only or did you use as much FSB as possible. FX chips really come to life a lot more with FSB overclocking as opposed to multi only. HT Link bumps really help as well. Just curious.

Nice writeup BTW.
 
hmmm if my 7970's went water cooled I might run the comparision for 2600k vs 8320 lol I have both setups bother with top end boards. 2600 on a Z68-UD7 and the 8320 on a Sabertooth. Might be a thing to do swap in the AMD rig to Switchblade and have a go at it.
 
The 8350 isn't too bad, it gives the 2500k and 3450k a run for their money. performance does lack quite a bit in some games and benches compared to the Intel builds though.

Still, for the cost of the 8350 and the money you save on AMD motherboards, you do still get good bang for your buck.

Shame AMD doesn't have anything to compete against Haswell till late this year, early next year. Would be nice to see some serious competition between AMD and Intel again. It would be good all round and would bring prices down/make them more competitive and give them both reason to release faster and better CPUs, instead of drip feeding us tiny improvements each year.

FX Cpus lack single threaded performance where as Intel Cpus dominate in that area. If a game was coded to better perfer multiple threads at once rather than single than FX would (theoretically) perform better. So that's one way Amd can step up their game, improve thread performance overall.
 
FX Cpus lack single threaded performance where as Intel Cpus dominate in that area. If a game was coded to better perfer multiple threads at once rather than single than FX would (theoretically) perform better. So that's one way Amd can step up their game, improve thread performance overall.

I wonder if games will start to take more and more advantage of multiple cores. The PS4 will be using a 8 core AMD chip and since we all know developers build everything to cater to the console first, with them building their games to work best on AMD 8 cores, I wonder if that will translate over to the PC and to where AMD chips will start to be a more attractive gaming chip. A FX-8350 outperforms albeit slightly a i7-3770K in Crysis 3 and Crysis 3 is a good example of the gaming engines we'll be seeing in the future.

Im sure AMD wont be a Intel killer at least not for a good while now but if game's start taking more and more advantage of the FX architecture, AMD might be a very solid competitor to Intel once again.

Meh, but what do I know? I thought texting was just a stupid fad. :rolleyes:
 
I wonder if games will start to take more and more advantage of multiple cores. The PS4 will be using a 8 core AMD chip and since we all know developers build everything to cater to the console first, with them building their games to work best on AMD 8 cores, I wonder if that will translate over to the PC and to where AMD chips will start to be a more attractive gaming chip. A FX-8350 outperforms albeit slightly a i7-3770K in Crysis 3 and Crysis 3 is a good example of the gaming engines we'll be seeing in the future.

Im sure AMD wont be a Intel killer at least not for a good while now but if game's start taking more and more advantage of the FX architecture, AMD might be a very solid competitor to Intel once again.

Meh, but what do I know? I thought texting was just a stupid fad. :rolleyes:

Actually you are dead on. You do know something!:lol:

The PS4/720 will be using VERY similiar Cpus and Gpus. ALL Amd hardware(mainly) so if Amd got some type of modified GCN arch in the consoles that would mean devs could code on PC first and do little scaling down and porting to the consoles. All in theory as of now but if this was Amds plan then Intel/Nvidia will need to bring some serious horsepower to cater to more optimized hardware(Amd)...

This is a huge possibility but it all depends on how Devs will go about it. This may be the best gen for PC gamers.
 
FX Cpus lack single threaded performance where as Intel Cpus dominate in that area. If a game was coded to better perfer multiple threads at once rather than single than FX would (theoretically) perform better. So that's one way Amd can step up their game, improve thread performance overall.

I don't know too much about AMD CPUs to be honest, but it sounds like if games were coded like you say that Intel could be in for a shock.

I have read a couple of posts around different forums from people "in the know" that things are changing and game developers are changing things to be better AMD optimized. Whether that is true or not, I don't know. One person who I saw post about it was RAWZ from Aria, he gets to play with things we don't have for months before they are out and i'm guessing he has friends on "the inside" :lol: that keep him well informed.

With AMD getting the console deals and more and more games coming out with the powered by AMD logo, it kind of seems more than likely it is going to happen.

I really hope it does, it's pretty bland when you know that the best choice is Intel and you have to pay over the odds, unless you want to save money and go AMD that is.

If AMD make a comeback it will give people better options, make the market more interesting, lower prices and increase competitiveness which is all good for us, the consumer. :D
 
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this is the reason i wont upgrade my cpu/motherboard until next year when steamroller is released
 
I don't know too much about AMD CPUs to be honest, but it sounds like if games were coded like you say that Intel could be in for a shock.

I have read a couple of posts around different forums from people "in the know" that things are changing and game developers are changing things to be better AMD optimized. Whether that is true or not, I don't know. One person who I saw post about it was RAWZ from Aria, he gets to play with things we don't have for months before they are out and i'm guessing he has friends on "the inside" :lol: that keep him well informed.

With AMD getting the console deals and more and more games coming out with the powered by AMD logo, it kind of seems more than likely it is going to happen.

I really hope it does, it's pretty bland when you know that the best choice is Intel and you have to pay over the odds, unless you want to save money and go AMD that is.

If AMD make a comeback it will give people better options, make the market more interesting, lower prices and increase competitiveness which is all good for us, the consumer. :D

I haven't been to update on any console forums but it's all pretty common sense and my computer science professor has explained in some detail(just basics for the starters) of what would happen if this trend comes true. So while it does help the market out now, what about the future market? Could intel start losing money? Nvidia? Too much optimization on the PC side for only one team can do more harm than good sometimes.
 
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