Alphacool NexXxos Monsta Rads

[SieB]

I know a few people have been waiting for the Alphacool NexXxos 80mm thick Monsta rads.

Available from Monday at Specialtech

http://www.specialte...n-stock-Monday!

 

[ruthless_villain]

just win, me wants the 480mm and the 2 x 240mm

 

[jamesriley94]

Looks pretty decent!

Do you have to use push pull for radiators like this, or can you still just get away with one or the other?

If I just used it in pull, would there be any benefit of getting this over, say a 60mm or 45mm rad?

Cheers

 

[SieB]

You don't have to use push pull with any radiator really, it doesn't make much of a difference, with low FPI rads anyway. You could use push or pull, pull is more effective than push but only by a couple of *c.

The advantage with these rads over a 60 or 45 is overheads, you could put more heat in your loop and still get good temps compared to a 60mm and also being able to turn your fans down more.

 

[ruthless_villain]

aye the only reason i want this is so i can use some quieter fans

 

[jamesriley94]

Surely with low RPM fans though, they would only be strong enough to draw heat away from, say the first 50mm of the 80mm - purely an educated guess here, no expert by any stretch of the imagination on watercooling. But I just cant see that unless you have really high RPM fans, or Push pull, these incredibly thick rads giving any better performance over a 60mm one.

 

[Master&Puppet]

Haha, was just about to post this

You are too fast Sieb!

 

[magicc8ball]

If some of you do go with the 80 mm fans you will need some very high static pressure to get decent flow through them. The NFF12 will barely cut it from what I have read from other over 60mm thick rads.

 

[Yuroko]

The advantage with these rads over a 60 or 45 is overheads, you could put more heat in your loop and still get good temps compared to a 60mm and also being able to turn your fans down more.

 

[Firat]

The advantage with these rads over a 60 or 45 is overheads, you could put more heat in your loop and still get good temps compared to a 60mm and also being able to turn your fans down more.

*spammer*

 

[Solidarity]

I like the idea of an 80mm rad. I wouldn't get one myself though.

 

[jamesriley94]

Why not? I'm considering one for the bottom of my CM 690, just thinking it may take up a lot of space

 

[Master&Puppet]

I want one too, just need to decide on fans..

 

[S_I_N]

Dunno about these Fesser tried them in the past and they didnt work very well. I'll wait til I see independant testing from real users not some who get paid to test lol. Plus think about it most cases barely have room for a 60mm rad with a single set of fans a few have room for push/pull with a 60mm thick rad if it clears the heatsinks on top of mobo this will drop it close to the same as 60mm with push/pull save about 5mm's or so.

 

[Jamsand]

Right just to clear things up if you bother to read the description at specialtech these rads are best off with higher rpm fans so your 1150 rpm silent fans ain't gonna cut it sorry.

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Monsta radiators have a thickness of 80mm. It has significantly increased flow rate compared to thinner radiators. The cooling performance increases greatly with increased fan speed.[/font]

 

[jamesriley94]

As opposed to the other radiators where they work better when fans barely spin at all...?

In the end, they may not perform as well as they possibly could do with low rpm fans, but this with fans at 1000rpm is still gunna beat 45mm rad with fans at 1500rpm...

 

[airdeano]

im waiting on the 40mm thick front to top radiator for my Midi.. just one big

radiator with a center tank to allow direction change of the surfaces..

ive got a friend in the radiator shop business.. idea time! cya....

airdeano

 

[Master&Puppet]

Right just to clear things up if you bother to read the description at specialtech these rads are best off with higher rpm fans so your 1150 rpm silent fans ain't gonna cut it sorry.

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Monsta radiators have a thickness of 80mm. It has significantly increased flow rate compared to thinner radiators. The cooling performance increases greatly with increased fan speed.[/font]

Thanks but I think we all appreciate that radiators work better when the fans are spinning faster

What we are looking for is a performance comparison against other rads to see where it fits in:

Q: Will the extra thickness noticably hamper it at low rpm vs other thickness rads (particularly the UT60 which is the same design but 60mm thick)?

This is important because there is no point buying a thicker rad if you have to have louder fans in order to get the same temps as a thinner one!

I imagine there will a certain RPM where the width of the rad begins to pay dividens against it's small cousins and it will be interesting to see where this point is and what the full load temps will be.

The 360 monsta is only £10 more than the UT60 which is nice to see. I await performance reviews!

 

[nex-s]

I would be interested in where is the limit of performance? How hot is the air by the time it gets to the end of the rad? Theoretically, the further the air travels through the rad, the hotter it gets, the lower is the cooling performance. I hope you get what I mean.

 

[airdeano]

the fan companies will have to get into design mode for some higher static pressure

fans and especially if the low speed fan crowd wants them.. by some loose calcs

a fan @ 1000rpm (quiet) to push 60cfm+ through 80mm of fin and tube the SAP

needs to be 3.25mm/h2o or better to deliver. the air on the exhaust side will be

so faint without any pressure. and if you go push/pull, hell your rad assembly

will be into the CPU block making it difficult to hose up..

airdeano